O'Malley deserves a better coach

[ElLunico]

He needs to move up a division and put some lbs on that frame.

He is what he is now at this point of his career. No coach is gonna make much of a dielfference.

 

[ElLunico]

Sean knows how to fight and its already set in his style, I swear some of you thing coaches control fighters with a PS5 controller or some shit

Lol yup, he is who he is at this point. He not learning anything new that will make such a difference in the way he fights.

 

[wrb]

People will realize how good Merab is after he fights Corey and Sean's next fight as these conversations could be made after each of the Machines victories. "Yan deserves a better coach, Umar needs to jog more... " At that level there is nothing they can do, everyone has the best endurance their bodies can handle. Umar fucking trains in the mountains and has never had a cig/beer/drug in is life so I don't see what he can do to go 5 rounds against this dude and not have a hear attack (which he looked like he was about to have after the first fight)

 

[Dr. Stoppage]

Would he be smarter to hang out in 135, win a few favorable matchups and then score another TS once Merab is no longer champ? The move up in weight doesn't sound great for his competitive prospects as he's competing against phsyically bigger fighters.

 

[krelianx]

I think he was being well-coached and going well. He really needs to invest a lot of time working on his wrestling, and his body type just isn't suited for it: long and lanky.

 

[NenadRS]

I do not think coaches are the issue, Merab is just way better. There is not much that Sean can do against him, aside from catching him with some good punch here and there.

Merab is strong and has crazy cardio (you can train cardio to some point, but talent and natural limit is not the same for everyone). I mean Merab can lift him and carry him, no defense against that hehe

 

[italiamusica]

I said it before and I said it in Saturdays PBP thread, O'Malley's coach is not a real coach. He's an obvious hanger on yes man (like for real). All you need to do is watch a few videos and you'll sée it too.

Agreed, he's always had a "yes man" vibe and seems realllllllllly full of himself.

 

[188912345]

He needs to move up a division and put some lbs on that frame.

He is what he is now at this point of his career. No coach is gonna make much of a dielfference.

I don't think that's the answer.

He's obviously built quite thin, even for BW.
He has room for more muscle and still be able to cut to BW, his walking around weight is about 20 lbs less than Volk, for some context.

I would assume his frame doesn't weigh much at all and that the muscle he would have to gain to be a good sized FW still wouldn't make him nearly as strong as the more natural FWs.

Not to mention the potential cardio-issues gaining a ton of muscle might cause.

 

[snugglecakes]

imagine if brock lesnar went to an actual elite gym instead of building a mcdojo in his garbage with iron sharpens iron elite training partners such as... Chris Tuchscherer

Ronda Rousey is also an obvious case of this. Who knows what cudda been if she went to an actual gym instead of edmond's mcdojo

 

[Uber_Noober]

 

[SuperAlly]

I need to see Sean lose more than just to Merab before I start thinking he needs a change of scenery. Merab is proving himself to be the BW GOAT and Welch helped get Sean to the promised land already.

Dana helped Sean. Lol

 

[Pechan]

Lol yup, he is who he is at this point. He not learning anything new that will make such a difference in the way he fights.

Yep, not to mention people only say shit like this for hyped fighters, no one was calling for Max to change camps when he lost to Volk and Dustin or to Dustin to change camp when he lost Charles, no one is calling for Usman to change camp after the loss to Merab etc.

When hyped fighters are part of famous or vocal camps its when people call for shit like this.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

MMA fighters need to get rid of the loyalty bullshit with their coaches & do what's best for them.

There are several examples of fighters levelling up after changing camps, Merab himself left Longo & went to Jon Wood & he's now finishing fights. Aljo left Longo aswell & went to nicksick & levelled up, I know both of them still have Longo in the corner but it's mostly so the old man doesn't get hurt, Longo doesn't really do anything with them anymore, he's usually aloof when anik asks him about Merab or Aljos training camps on their podcast.

TJ levelled up after leaving Alpha Male & Islams striking got really better once he started relying on his Olympic Silver Medalist Taekwondo coach instead of Javier, tbh to Javier he himself says that he's not the head coach anymore.

I thought Tim Welch was kidding when he said pre-fight that they were going to be patient in the fight this time & try to win rounds, holyshit he wasn't kidding & what a dumb plan for someone like Merab.

O'Malley spent almost all of Rd 1 and 2 backing up & running away from Merab & Tim kept telling Sean how great he was doing, Merabs chin is his one weakness and you decide to completely ignore that and backaway and try to slow him down with really weak body work.

How can a coach ask him fighter to abandon his own strength which is koing people and try to play the points game just because the judges gave you two rds in the first fight.

Hope O'Malley brings in another coach in his team because he is a very talented fighter, really want him to see rematch Yan or fight Umar.

Jones is dodging Tom so ufc wanted to push the next biggest thing since McGregor is done and Alex lost.

It gets worse with BELAL as champ before. Merab isn’t a ppv star. Rushing O’Malley in a rematch was a mistake.

 

[amok attitude]

MMA fighters need to get rid of the loyalty bullshit with their coaches & do what's best for them.

There are several examples of fighters levelling up after changing camps, Merab himself left Longo & went to Jon Wood & he's now finishing fights. Aljo left Longo aswell & went to nicksick & levelled up, I know both of them still have Longo in the corner but it's mostly so the old man doesn't get hurt, Longo doesn't really do anything with them anymore, he's usually aloof when anik asks him about Merab or Aljos training camps on their podcast.

TJ levelled up after leaving Alpha Male & Islams striking got really better once he started relying on his Olympic Silver Medalist Taekwondo coach instead of Javier, tbh to Javier he himself says that he's not the head coach anymore.

I thought Tim Welch was kidding when he said pre-fight that they were going to be patient in the fight this time & try to win rounds, holyshit he wasn't kidding & what a dumb plan for someone like Merab.

O'Malley spent almost all of Rd 1 and 2 backing up & running away from Merab & Tim kept telling Sean how great he was doing, Merabs chin is his one weakness and you decide to completely ignore that and backaway and try to slow him down with really weak body work.

How can a coach ask him fighter to abandon his own strength which is koing people and try to play the points game just because the judges gave you two rds in the first fight.

Hope O'Malley brings in another coach in his team because he is a very talented fighter, really want him to see rematch Yan or fight Umar.

Fighting Merab without being a wrestler yourself, you need that footwork and pray for a counterpunch. There is not much you can do

 

[Sinedd]

Yep, not to mention people only say shit like this for hyped fighters, no one was calling for Max to change camps when he lost to Volk and Dustin or to Dustin to change camp when he lost Charles, no one is calling for Usman to change camp after the loss to Merab etc.

When hyped fighters are part of famous or vocal camps its when people call for shit like this.

It has nothing to do with hype. O'Malley made no adjustments between the two fights. Still backing up the whole time. People call for fighters to change camps when they repeatedly lose the same way.

 

[RichardHarrow]

Maybe that's the coaching style that works best for O'Malley, just because Merab runs you over doesn't mean you're a bad fighter. Some fighters don't deal with tough love well, even if it's the truth.

Precisely this. Ali didn’t change Angelo Dundee when he lost to Frazier.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

I do not think coaches are the issue, Merab is just way better. There is not much that Sean can do against him, aside from catching him with some good punch here and there.

Merab is strong and has crazy cardio (you can train cardio to some point, but talent and natural limit is not the same for everyone). I mean Merab can lift him and carry him, no defense against that hehe

Sean was too worried about getting taken down to fight. His hands were so low trying to stay ready to grab hooks. He needed to let his hands go when Merab was closing the distance, not preemptively shell up into a defensive position that was never going to work anyway. Merab was able to mix up striking with his grappling and Sean was stuck in defensive grappling mode.

I do think some of that is coaching but there is really no coaching gameplan that is going to fix the mismatched skills the two fighters have. Its just a literal definition of a nightmare match up


I like Tim. Tim is fine. Tim is not the problem. There really is no problem lol O'Malley is a top flight 135r who didn't beat the current champ. What a tragedy he really is a failure!

 

[the_details]

Sean needs to get back to smoking weed, at least he was funnier while getting his ass beat. Nobody wants to watch a dude that is acting all serious getting beat on

He needs to get back to not talking about jerking off. Nobody wants to watch a dude get beat on while he's put the mental image in their head of him beating off.

I do think some of that is coaching but there is really no coaching gameplan that is going to fix the mismatched skills the two fighters have. Its just a literal definition of a nightmare match up

I'm sorry, but no. Gameplans can win style and skill mismatches. Matt Sera did it when he upset GSP. Watch the pre-fight package for that event. The black and white interview clips they used to show at the start of PPVs. He states clearly, "you don't have to be the better striker to outstrike somebody in MMA. If he's thinking this and I do that, it's going to be a short night", in reference to the common consensus that his only path to victory was to submit GSP on the ground. But what happened? His gameplan worked, GSP wasn't expecting Sera to engage him on the feet, and was too worried about defending takedowns.

I think Leon Edwards had some good gameplans as well. He rematch with Usman and his fight with Colby, he shot for takedowns and flipped the script, got them thinking about TD defense and used his striking. Colby and Usman are obviously the better wrestlers, but they got taken down because they weren't expecting Leon to engage them there.

And, this is why Merab had better effective striking in the rematch. O'Malley's gameplan didn't appear to have an offensive component. He was too worried about the takedowns, his striking defense was more porous. And I don't think he ever made Merab pay for attempting a takedown. He had that good sequence in round 2 where he defended multiple takedowns against the cage... But he landed no offense because of it. And this is the round after he got taken down twice in round one, didn't make Merab bay for the 2 takedowns he avoided, and his corner told him how great he was doing going into round 2.

 

[SJP_SevenLaker]

Sean O’Malley has no ass.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Great idea, that's what O'Malley's should do too. Stop with the snake oil shit (not jerking off, no weed) and branch out. He can still keep his little red headed butt buddy as his sidekick.

O’Malley and Tim Welch don’t strike me as the type to diversify their teams.
For some reason I get the impression that they think pretty highly of themselves and think they got it all figured out lol
It reeks of a yes man team