Oliveira surely earned himself a title shot.

[Danespina]

Yeah Oliveira looks to be one of the greatest fighters of all time at this moment. His submission skills have always been GOAT tier, but now he's got striking too.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Good luck convincing Dana to give him a shot over Conor

I understand why Dana wants to give McGregor big fights. But I don't understand why he'd want to give him title shots at this point. He knows he'll end up having to strip him of any belt he gets.

 

[Kono dio da!]

I feel like Chandler vs. Gaethje is next, and the winner possibly gets the winner of Conor vs. Dustin 2 for the belt. The only way I see this not happening is if they do Gaethje vs. Do Bronx. Seems like they really wanna give Chandler a top-ranked opponent though.

Gonna be interesting to see how it will play out.
Whoever Do Bronx fights next, I'll be watching.
He's finally put it all together after all these years.

Dude at this point anyone else fighting the winner of dustin conor is unacceptable. Fuck gaethje and chandler. Like seriously forget about them for now. They have zero claim to that belt. None at all. I don't even wanna hear their names and belt in the same sentence. Fuck them (not as am insult, just put them aside for now, please don't flag me for fighter bashing, i swear I'm not) and that match-up. Lightweight has been ailing for 6 years now.. Conor fucked it up.

Khabib was too dominant but also inactive. Now the ufc is in a perfect position. I don't want to see them fuck such a clear opportunity for legitimacy up. Honestly, if they do oick gaethje/ chandler winner over oliveira to fight conor/poirier, in my mind, the only possible reason is that charles is not a white American dude, who speaks English. I know you guys hate this kind of talk, but I'm sorry, if they bury him, that's the only possible explanation and i fuckint hope this doesn't happen. I'd even pray it doesn't, but mma doesn't mean that much to me. I hate it because all I want to see is the best fighting the best. That's all. Nothing else.

Post fight backflips/gucci suits, sextapes and all that rocknroll stuff other kids are into are obiter for me. I get it's not a "sport" (whatever the fuck that means, just a cop-out), but seriously, do right by lightweight. Prove to us that the "lightweight is the best division" bullshit is not just wolf tickets. This is the same shit with sterling and edwards, where you keep fucking with a contender and then lose the desirable matchup. Then we end up with iaquinta vs poirier for the belt, because islam smeshed oliveira. Don't fuck up.

 

[Kryptt]

The title picture has an odd feel for who slots where. Partially basing it on the Conor and the Chandlers factors which are relative uncertainties. We can assume they want Conor in the title picture and it will prolly go that way. Justin vs Chandler is likely I think as well. Could lead to winners for the belt.

Where does that leave Oli...waiting for 2 matches and then the winners to face off before he steps in or does he take a side fight like Hooker, etc to fill in the time.

I do not feel Conon, Justin or Chandler really deserve what seems to be set before them but I can see how thee UFC would go that way.

 

[Kono dio da!]

i dont agree with a titleshot awarded to a guy who beat a guy coming off a life changing beating .

Him vs conor poirier winner? He's got the best win streak in lightweight. Poirier just beat hooker, who's not elite. Conor beat cowboy lawl...neither gaethje nor chandler have any business demanding title shots either. Conor poirier vs charles next.

 

[Danespina]

Dana said in the post-fight

"Well lets see where he lands in the rankings on Monday"

Which is code for NO, absolutely Charles won't fight for the title next unless someone gets injured and we need him as a replacement.

 

[Kono dio da!]

The title picture has an odd feel for who slots where. Partially basing it on the Conor and the Chandlers factors which are relative uncertainties. We can assume they want Conor in the title picture and it will prolly go that way. Justin vs Chandler is likely I think as well. Could lead to winners for the belt.

Where does that leave Oli...waiting for 2 matches and then the winners to face off before he steps in or does he take a side fight like Hooker, etc to fill in the time.

I do not feel Conon or Chandler really deserve what seems to be set before them but I can see how thee UFC would go that way.

But dude, neither gaethje nor chandler have the hype oliveira has right now. Gaethje beat tony, sure. But then he get squeezed by khabib. Chandler is a life-long bellator dude who kept rejecting fights the whole fall. You want conor in there? You got it (provided he wins). But if it's conor it has to be against oliveira. It has to be.

 

[Aurelian]

I understand why Dana wants to give McGregor big fights. But I don't understand why he'd want to give him title shots at this point. He knows he'll end up having to strip him of any belt he gets.

And subsequently dealing with Conor trying to hold the UFC hostage in contract negotiations.

 

[beephin]

Dude at this point anyone else fighting the winner of dustin conor is unacceptable. Fuck gaethje and chandler. Like seriously forget about them for now. They have zero claim to that belt. None at all. I don't even wanna hear their names and belt in the same sentence. Fuck them (not as am insult, just put them aside for now, please don't flag me for fighter bashing, i swear I'm not) and that match-up. Lightweight has been ailing for 6 years now.. Conor fucked it up.

Khabib was too dominant but also inactive. Now the ufc is in a perfect position. I don't want to see them fuck such a clear opportunity for legitimacy up. Honestly, if they do oick gaethje/ chandler winner over oliveira to fight conor/poirier, in my mind, the only possible reason is that charles is not a white American dude, who speaks English. I know you guys hate this kind of talk, but I'm sorry, if they bury him, that's the only possible explanation and i fuckint hope this doesn't happen. I'd even pray it doesn't, but mma doesn't mean that much to me. I hate it because all I want to see is the best fighting the best. That's all. Nothing else.

Post fight backflips/gucci suits, sextapes and all that rocknroll stuff other kids are into are obiter for me. I get it's not a "sport" (whatever the fuck that means, just a cop-out), but seriously, do right by lightweight. Prove to us that the "lightweight is the best division" bullshit is not just wolf tickets. This is the same shit with sterling and edwards, where you keep fucking with a contender and then lose the desirable matchup. Then we end up with iaquinta vs poirier for the belt, because islam smeshed oliveira. Don't fuck up.

thats great and all, but please tell us how you really feel about this

 

[Kono dio da!]

Dana said in the post-fight

"Well lets see where he lands in the rankings on Monday"

Which is code for NO, absolutely Charles won't fight for the title next unless someone gets injured and we need him as a replacement.

That's fucked

 

[Psychojoe86]

Do Bronx fights winner of conor poirer, for the vacant title.

chandler vs gaethje, winner fights for the title after that.

 

[Kono dio da!]

thats great and all, but please tell us how you really feel about this

Dude. Wtf. We were having a discussion. Everything was cool. No shots fired nothing and now this? Aight whatever man you do you.

 

[Aurelian]

Him vs conor poirier winner? He's got the best win streak in lightweight. Poirier just beat hooker, who's not elite. Conor beat cowboy lawl...neither gaethje nor chandler have any business demanding title shots either. Conor poirier vs charles next.

Poirier was saved by the bell in the second round against Hooker. How is Hooker not elite? Are you also saying Dustin isn't elite?

 

[Kryptt]

But dude, neither gaethje nor chandler have the hype oliveira has right now. Gaethje beat tony, sure. But then he get squeezed by khabib. Chandler is a life-long bellator dude who kept rejecting fights the whole fall. You want conor in there? You got it (provided he wins). But if it's conor it has to be against oliveira. It has to be.

I would prefer Dustin vs Oli honestly. I don't feel Justin, Conor or Chandler deserve a shot at the moment.

I was "assuming" UFC's mindset based on past experience and what they seemed to be pushing of late.

 

[Kono dio da!]

Poirier was saved by the bell in the second round against Hooker. How is Hooker not elite? Are you also saying Dustin isn't elite?

He hasn't claimed a win in that upper echelon, to be called elite imo. I mean, oliveira for instance beat Lee. Lee ragdolls everyone but isn't elite (loses to elite competition all the time.) great win, not elite. Ferguson second GOAT, beat prime rda, barboza etc. Oliveira and gaethje are elite for beating him. Hooker has work to do. For what it's worth, i totally think hooker beats conor though.

 

[Memeojima]

I don't get it. Sure, he hasn't always looked so good. He got fucked up many many times in the past. But this motherfucker just reached a new level. Nobody in the ufc can boast wins over fighter kevin lee and the BOAT tony. Why are youtubers/journalists and sherdoggers calling for him vs islam, hooker, gaethje etc. This motherfucker should be next in line. He's champ material. He may not win. But he deserves a shot against the poirier vs conor winner. Neither chandler nor gaethje have a claim to the winner (chandler last beat old man bendo, gaethje had his chance already). Why is everyone hating on oliveira's steez? I'm not even the biggest fan. I like him but I'm a Khabib /poirier guy. But i want to see this dude get his. I don't want to see him get Leoned and get forced to fight islam makachev or some bullshit like that. Give the guy a title shot against the January 23 winner. Please!

In case you haven't realized, UFC picks who gets title shots. Oliveira could go 10-0 he still wouldn't get a title shot. They will keep him away from the title til he loses. Not marketable enough. Dana's rules

 

[humdizzle]

oliveira vs winner of dustin/conor is the only thing that makes sense.

although i dont think the ufc wants conor vs oliveira as its a terrible matchup for conor and charles can't speak english well. Marketing nightmare.

 

[Kono dio da!]

In case you haven't realized, UFC picks who gets title shots. Oliveira could go 10-0 he still wouldn't get a title shot. They will keep him away from the title til he loses. Not marketable enough. Dana's rules

I know. Doesn't mean i have to like ir though. It's bullshit honestly.

 

[Aurelian]

He hasn't claimed a win in that upper echelon, to be called elite imo. I mean, oliveira for instance beat Lee. Lee ragdolls everyone but isn't elite (loses to elite competition all the time.) great win, not elite. Ferguson second GOAT, beat prime rda, barboza etc. Oliveira and gaethje are elite for beating him. Hooker has work to do. For what it's worth, i totally think hooker beats conor though.

Hooker's problem is he's a 3 round fighter. I'm not sure how much the weight cut is affecting his cardio. He's great for those 3 rounds though. If he can fix that problem he's definitely in the Title picture. Poirier was about to be finished when that bell rang. For what it's worth he has a win over Burns.

 

[Kono dio da!]

oliveira vs winner of dustin/conor is the only thing that makes sense.

although i dont think the ufc wants conor vs oliveira as its a terrible matchup for conor and charles can't speak english well. Marketing nightmare.

Dude, he doesn't need to say shit. Mozt finishes in ufc history. That's nasty.

 

[humdizzle]

Dude, he doesn't need to say shit. Mozt finishes in ufc history. That's nasty.

you gotta appeal to casuals with sound clips and crazy press conferences though.