OLED TV’s

Madmick said:
I'm going to tag @Blayt7hh because he owns an LG C7, IIRC.
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@Dizzy
Yeah I got one back in 2017, 55in. Got really lucky too, the model I bought was open box at the store and half off. Went in prepared to pay full price which was 2k at the time hahah.

I haven't had an issue with burn in yet and its been almost 3 years now. My wife is pretty bad about leaving stuff up on the screen too. She'll leave shows up paused or leave it on a netflix menu or something, the exact kind of thing that would cause it. They have only gotten better at protecting against that since then. I don't think it is a much of an issue anymore.

As far as picture quality, it unrivaled. I had a plasma screen before from 2013. I refused to upgrade to a 4k because it just looked better. The OLED is that an more. It has the similar color depth but the brightness of an LED. If you look at rtings, which is easily the best website for TV reviews OLED's are always getting a 10 on picture quality where the best LCDs are only getting in the high 8's. There is a reason, it's simply that much better.
 
Blayt7hh said:
@Dizzy
Yeah I got one back in 2017, 55in. Got really lucky too, the model I bought was open box at the store and half off. Went in prepared to pay full price which was 2k at the time hahah.

I haven't had an issue with burn in yet and its been almost 3 years now. My wife is pretty bad about leaving stuff up on the screen too. She'll leave shows up paused or leave it on a netflix menu or something, the exact kind of thing that would cause it. They have only gotten better at protecting against that since then. I don't think it is a much of an issue anymore.

As far as picture quality, it unrivaled. I had a plasma screen before from 2013. I refused to upgrade to a 4k because it just looked better. The OLED is that an more. It has the similar color depth but the brightness of an LED. If you look at rtings, which is easily the best website for TV reviews OLED's are always getting a 10 on picture quality where the best LCDs are only getting in the high 8's. There is a reason, it's simply that much better.
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Thanks for the input. Definitely feeling more at ease about burn in. I’ve heard seeing an OLED displaying a high quality source can be a game changer.

Cant wait to get my hands on it.
 
Dizzy said:
Nice, looking more into it and how I use my set, I can’t imagine I’d experience much, of any burn in. Them running NFL games for 20 hours a day for a year and not getting any burn in sold me.

The allure of that picture quality is too much. I have a very nice set as it is now so I want the upgrade to be very noticeable.

Think I’m gonna pull the trigger on the 55” C9. That price is pretty killer and it feels like I have some future proofing with the 2.1 inputs.
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Don't buy a 55 buy a 65. You'll regret it. You can get a good deal if you keep an eye sales.
 
Joe said:
Don't buy a 55 buy a 65. You'll regret it. You can get a good deal if you keep an eye sales.
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Eh, 65 would be a little ridiculous for how close I am. The B9 is pretty affordable for a 65” but I’m still not sure I want something that big in my living room.
 
Dizzy said:
Eh, 65 would be a little ridiculous for how close I am. The B9 is pretty affordable for a 65” but I’m still not sure I want something that big in my living room.
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If you're watching less than 8 ft 55 is okay but 65 is the best choice for a living room. Especially for 4k. The further you are the less noticeable it is.
 
Joe said:
If you're watching less than 8 ft 55 is okay but 65 is the best choice for a living room. Especially for 4k. The further you are the less noticeable it is.
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Actually just checked, I’m literally right at 8 ft away.
 
Dizzy said:
Actually just checked, I’m literally right at 8 ft away.
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Just IMO but if you're looking to notice 4k 55 is too small for a living room. Seems like it will fit well but once you set it up it'll be noticeable.
 
Joe said:
Just IMO but if you're looking to notice 4k 55 is too small for a living room. Seems like it will fit well but once you set it up it'll be noticeable.
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Guess I’ve never tested this scenario exactly, but I feel like I could pick out a 4k tv from a 1080 tv, 55in at 8 feet
 
Yes, make sure to do thorough research on input lag times. Certain TVs have great times while others are atrocious.
 
Came in a day earlier than I thought. After some initial annoyance getting a new tv in my home theater set up, finally got it running and calibrated a bit.

I had a fairly high end 4K Samsung LCD that’s about 6 years old. It took a giant shit on it when the HDR kicked in. Doom Eternal is jaw dropping with this set.

Watching The Shining on a 4K Blu-ray, I’m seriously in awe of how good this looks.

I’m an OLED believer.
 
Dizzy said:
Came in a day earlier than I thought. After some initial annoyance getting a new tv in my home theater set up, finally got it running and calibrated a bit.

I had a fairly high end 4K Samsung LCD that’s about 6 years old. It took a giant shit on it when the HDR kicked in. Doom Eternal is jaw dropping with this set.

Watching The Shining on a 4K Blu-ray, I’m seriously in awe of how good this looks.

I’m an OLED believer.
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Not sure what guid you used for Calibration, but here's Rting's suggested calibration for the LG C9:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled/settings

Although what you really want to do is this:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/how-to-calibrate-your-tv
You'll download that set of images in the first paragraph: the AVS HD 709 Calibration Package. You can download them to a USB stick, but it should be easier to just download them to your phone/tablet, and just cast them to the TV. I suppose you could even use an Xbox/PS web browser to download them and project them. Then you follow the steps to calibrate them. You'll want your lighting environment to be your ideal lighting environment for viewing (i.e. lights off), or at least the one most common for the room when you use the TV.

That's a poor man's spectrometer since none of us want to waste money on a tool we'll use once with each new TV. Very cool.
 
Madmick said:
Not sure what guid you used for Calibration, but here's Rting's suggested calibration for the LG C9:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled/settings

Although what you really want to do is this:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/how-to-calibrate-your-tv
You'll download that set of images in the first paragraph: the AVS HD 709 Calibration Package. You can download them to a USB stick, but it should be easier to just download them to your phone/tablet, and just cast them to the TV. I suppose you could even use an Xbox/PS web browser to download them and project them. Then you follow the steps to calibrate them. You'll want your lighting environment to be your ideal lighting environment for viewing (i.e. lights off), or at least the one most common for the room when you use the TV.

That's a poor man's spectrometer since none of us want to waste money on a tool we'll use once with each new TV. Very cool.
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I always use rtings for a base. Hadn’t seen this other method, pretty interesting.
 
I bought a LG C8 in 2018 and have no burn in. Sometimes I'll disable or minimize the hud if the game allows me but it shouldn't be an issue.
 
Im not sure it was ever an issue. I own an lg c7 and never had any burn in issues at all.
 
JoeyJoeJoeJr said:
Im not sure it was ever an issue. I own an lg c7 and never had any burn in issues at all.
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That's a 2017 TV, and if you review Rtings ongoing study, you'll see why there is a concern, though I think this is most relevant to businesses purchasing hospitality TVs. It's why their standing "Permanent Burn-In Risk" score for OLED TVs is always 2.0 (out of 10.0).

Nevertheless, that's just modern OLEDs, and these are light years beyond the earliest models. Today, at least, the way most people use TVs, especially usage of the routine maintenance feature suggested by Rtings these TVs carry, owners like yourself and others testify it isn't an issue, but when OLED first came out, it was terrible no matter what you did. It took a lot of capital investment in continuing R&D by the manufacturers, and the only reason they did it was because they knew the potential of the technology to ultimately capture the image quality of a plasma TV (a technology you'll notice has disappeared from the market) at a cost that would eventually rival the other LED screens. Early on, it wasn't just burn-in, but extreme costs, and terrible performance in other metrics like peak brightness.

LG themselves have authored a history on the technology, and what it has taken to mature it. They have a right to be proud. The Koreans made OLED dominance a reality:
OLED: A STORY OF PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE AND INNOVATION
1987: OLED technology is created
OLED isn’t a new technology; far from it. It first arrived on the scene in 1987, with Kodak developing it for their digital cameras. Little did anybody know that what Kodak had created would bring about so many exciting possibilities in the world of television.

2004: The first OLED TV
It wasn’t until the new millennium that electronics companies started to realise what OLED technology was really capable of. Sony, for example, released their first OLED TV in 2004, while Toshiba, Samsung and Panasonic also dabbled in OLED panels that had so much potential.

There were teething problems. The lifespan of OLED TVs was, back then, short. Cost was also an issue - brands found it difficult to develop an affordable OLED TV, with prices for an 11-inch screen averaging an eye-watering $2500.

People clearly believed in the technology, but it needed perfecting. And this takes time. The old adage ‘if something’s really worth doing, it’s worth doing well’ couldn’t be more accurate.

2010: LG enters the market
Continuous innovation - this was the principle that guided LG. They kept the faith and in 2010 created the LG 15-inch 15EL9500 OLED TV. With a super flatscreen and beautiful, sleek design, LG’s first OLED product was a success. On reflection, this was only just the beginning.

2012: A record-breaking OLED TV
LG continued to hone its OLED technology, committing time and resources into creating the very best entertainment solution in the world. In 2012, the first 55-inch OLED panel television was released by LG - the largest screen ever at this time. But even then, few knew that this innovation was shaping up to become the breakthrough TV technology.

2013: A new market-leader
One year on and a lot had changed. In 2013, Sony and Panasonic shut down their OLED partnership. They said the project didn’t deliver the growth they expected and they had feared that OLED televisions weren’t ‘commercially viable.’

While these brands returned to the drawing board, LG kept its nerve and invested more into the technology. Others hesitated, but LG stayed true to its commitment to making OLED a viable technology and bringing it into the market. In 2013 LG launched its OLED TVs which was quickly a hit in the television market. It was the beginning of what was to become “the best selling”* success story.

2015: A change of tack
Fast-forward two years. In 2015, Samsung, once an OLED competitor alongside LG, went in another direction. Concerns about the cost of investment in this technology led them to create their own brand, Q-LED. But while Q-LED is still part of the LCD family, displaying more vivid colours due to an added colour sheet, LG continued to lead the way in forming the truly innovative OLED technology.

2017: LG inspires others
Another two years down the road and LG, undeterred by Samsung’s change in strategy, reached another milestone. Persistence was rewarded, when in 2017, LG Display were providing Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Philips and Loewe with OLED panels for their TVs.

2019: Breaking boundaries
Today, this game-changing technology continues to create endless possibilities in the television market, making the seemingly impossible, possible. For proof - the very first rollable TV has been released - only achievable because of the flexible nature of OLED technology.

The sky is the limit for OLED televisions. And LG, which holds the patent for this technology, is driving this change. The 8K OLED TV is on the horizon, with the iconic picture brought to perfection by unbeatable contrast that Q-LED simply cannot compete with.

The story of OLED technology just goes to show that innovation isn’t so much about a Eureka moment, but a matter of patience, persistence and bold thinking.
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