Ogden/Radzhanov Was a Robbery

[ReasonableMan]

Radzhabov did heavy damage in rounds two and three.

Ogden did no damage. Instead he had some takedowns and arm triangle attempts that were never very close.

I can't believe it's 2024 and this is still happening. Seems like 10 years ago that we had that big discussion about damage being valued over control.

 

[svmr_db]

Trey Ogden def. Loik Radzhabov :: UFC on ESPN 60 :: MMA Decisions

mmadecisions.com

 

[Ares Black]

Round 3 is the only remotely debatable one, and Ogden controlled most of it.

Not only is it not even close to a robbery, it's actually the correct decision.

 

[Serge421]

I bet on Loik but that was a L

 

[AldoStillGoat]

That’s what happens when you diss WMMA

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Loik is 5 and 5 in his last ten fights. The tank => The Yugo. Dude has zero grappling.

 

[Leonard Haid]

That’s what happens when you diss WMMA

The undefeated Khabib dissed WMMA plenty of times.

 

[fortheo]

I can't believe it's 2024 and fans don't understand that you can win decisions with grappling.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Decent win for Ogden, that.

 

[BabyBlue_Bomber]

Radzhabov won round 2...

But in round 3, watch his ground-and-pound. Everything either misses or is blocked by Ogden. It looks good because he's winding up and throwing hard, but they aren't scoring blows...

Ogden actually dealt more damage with those short shoulder strikes than anything that Radzhabov did in the 3rd round...

 

[Rhood]

Ogden won the first 2 rounds
10 + 10 + 9
Loik won round 3
9 + 9 + 10

This wasn't even close to a robbery. You need to watch the fight again.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Radzhabov won round 2...

But in round 3, watch his ground-and-pound. Everything either misses or is blocked by Ogden. It looks good because he's winding up and throwing hard, but they aren't scoring blows...

Ogden actually dealt more damage with those short shoulder strikes than anything that Radzhabov did in the 3rd round...

All 3 judges gave ogden round 2

 

[Deleted member 585708]

The undefeated Khabib dissed WMMA plenty of times.

Now he's retired and being hunted by Putin over his debts.

That's what you get.

 

[Leonard Haid]

Now he's retired and being hunted by Putin over his debts.

That's what you get.

That's what you get for dissing WMMA? Then I'm in trouble. But if I pretend to like it then, well, you can't fool God.

 

[Safton]

28-28 Draw for me. I scored Round 1 a 10-8 for Ogden. IMO Round 2 sort of depends on what you value; I felt like Loik's early flurry against the cage was pretty telling, but I don't have an issue with people giving that round to Ogden seeing as how much of it went (and how it ended). Loik won Round 3 cleanly enough.

 

[gentel]

I didn't watch but I do wonder - Ogden beat Holobaugh, so why was he so much lower on the card than Holobaugh?

 

[Thesnake101]

I didn't watch but I do wonder - Ogden beat Holobaugh, so why was he so much lower on the card than Holobaugh?

Ogden is usually involved in boring fights, Holobaugh and Kruschewsky aren't.

 

[ReasonableMan]

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Trey Ogden def. Loik Radzhabov :: UFC on ESPN 60 :: MMA Decisions

mmadecisions.com

Fans > neckbeard "journalists"

 

[Ares Black]

Fans > neckbeard "journalists"

Fan voting is a popularity contest. The average MMA fan knows fuck.all about scoring.

And if your argument is that this fight was a robbery, that poll doesn't do you any favours.

If 51.6% think one guy won and 48.4% think the other guy won, that is a debatable decision, not a robbery.

 

[ReasonableMan]

The fans also scored it for Ogden..

Guess you didn't look at the screenshot I posted?

I'm a grappler/wrestler and have been most of my life. This is fighting. Lying in top mount failing on arm triangles does not make up for being smashed in the head by a gorilla.

"Fan voting is a popularity contest. The average MMA fan knows fuck.all about scoring."

People voting on mmadecisions are not the average fan. Besides, the comparison was with the neckbeard journalists that the other guy referenced.