Official War Room Awards 2018

[PolishHeadlock]

Would you say Trump is not governing as a Republican? Because those posters screaming you are a conservative also scream he's running 100% as a traditional republican.

It's a mixed bag. His court appointments obviously please traditional Republicans and that's the main reason he won the election

Agreed. Just weird it was just happening as it was being discussed and no one said anything


Deregulation, anti ACA, Tax Cuts, oil exploration. Tougher border security. Pro law enforcement. Military wasteful spending. Cutting EPA. Cutting planned parenthood. Conservative Judges up our ass. As a conservative I'd think you would love him.

Funny thing is. Most the things I REALLY support him on are where he cuts against the repukes. They just happen to be big issues

Trump has tackled wasteful military spending? Didn't he brag about spending the most?

He regularly attacks law enforcement and the courts over partisan issues.

He's only pro law enforcement when it's a virtue signal to his base and crown people are involved

 

[RockstarChris]

About a year ago my computer got hacked and melted down. It was connected to shit that happened here.

There was a thread in the OT in Arabic advertising the sale of black market passports.....and it went from there. Let's just say that THEY didn't like the exposure I gave them.

you still there pussy?

 

[N13]

you still there pussy?

 

[SBJJ]

I saw somebody point out that you defending Milo when Milo said that adult men can have positive sexual relationships with boys. That's a stance that you would have to defend, nobody can do that for you. I absolute would not, because I think it's a disgusting thing to say.

If he actually called you a phile or accused you of something, that would be out of line. Did he do that? I might have missed it. I'm only closely reading posts directed to me.

Milo or anyone has the right to comment on what happened to them as a teen. Just like You, me or anyone should feel free to speak on an experience we may have had as a teen with an older woman. It was not long ago that movies about teen boys chasing older women were being made. Light hearted comedies. I'm not and never have been a 16 year old gay male so I really can not pass judgement on that mindset

Anyway. You know what I'm saying here and if you're cool with someone defending a person's choice to talk about their life experience being accused of supporting child molestation then that's up to you

I'll tell you what we all should be against. The violent forced rape of females drugged. That's something we can all agree on. And if you ever see it we can all agree it should be stopped and the proper authorities should be notified. Right?

 

[Rational Poster]

I absolutely have a problem with those accusations being made against groups of people. For example, a number of posters here commonly say that all liberals hate white people and are racists. Another example would be a number of posters here who claim that philia is part of the liberal agenda.

Accusations against individuals would have to be looked at case by case.

Dude stop telling them the secret plan.

 

[senri]

It is always feeding time, especially here in the WR, where so many weak people congregate in one place. Cows grazing.

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[SBJJ]

It's a mixed bag. His court appointments obviously please traditional Republicans and that's the main reason he won the election


Trump has tackled wasteful military spending? Didn't he brag about spending the most?

He regularly attacks law enforcement and the courts over partisan issues.

He's only pro law enforcement when it's a virtue signal to his base and crown people are involved

Jesus. I said Trump spent wastefully on military. Something Repukes should love

So the like dozen issues I posted mean you support Trump quite a bit, Right? Because you say you are a republican

 

[senri]

I believe @N13 is what would happen if @senri barely survived being struck by lightning

You would be surprised how many things i survived in this world Mr. Pete...... You will find out one day....

 

[panamaican]

Deregulation, anti ACA, Tax Cuts, oil exploration. Tougher border security. Pro law enforcement. Military wasteful spending. Cutting EPA. Cutting planned parenthood. Conservative Judges up our ass. As a conservative I'd think you would love him.

None of which he originated. The GOP has been pushing these things since before he entered office. For example - he's picking judges off a list the GOP put together years ago. The Tax Cut was Paul Ryan's goal for as long as he was in office. The GOP has been campaigning on reversing the ACA since it went into law. So forth and so on.

And the question you asked was if he's governing like a Republican. He's not. The Republicans are governing like Republicans.

The stuff that actually originated with him are all identity politics and anti-free trade policies.

 

[SBJJ]

This happens equally, if not more to conservatives though. We are at a stage that even mentioning that you support Trump = "you are a racist, sexist bigot". Wear a MAGA hat and it's a "symbol of hate". We are not talking small factions, as millions of people feel like this in America from your local store employee to your coworker to your social media friends. It's even more ridiculous towards conservatives than it is liberals, or equally ridiculous at best.

It's pretty bad both ways. But it just shows the difference when one sides key gripe is being called liberals or SJWs. While the other side complains of being called Racists, Bigots, Nazis

By the way. I'm a proud SJW when it comes to Gay Marriage and Animal rights

 

[SBJJ]

None of which he originated. The GOP has been pushing these things since before he entered office. For example - he's picking judges off a list the GOP put together years ago. The Tax Cut was Paul Ryan's goal for as long as he was in office. The GOP has been campaigning on reversing the ACA since it went into law. So forth and so on.

And the question you asked was if he's governing like a Republican. He's not. The Republicans are governing like Republicans.

The stuff that actually originated with him are all identity politics and anti-free trade policies.

Lol. So you are a Republican who does not support Trump because he has a bad mouth and is what you consider Anti Trade.

Everything else he's doing is just him going along with the people you agree with. But he does not actually believe in any of it

He does not actually believe in deregulation, TAX cuts, more military spending, abolishing the ACA, cutting the EPA, defunding PP, more border security/wall.

Again. No matter the reason. It seems you as a Republican should support the vast majority of what is being done

Would you believe a guy who claimed to be a Democrat but did not support Obama on anything accomplished under his presidency?

Also. Are you saying you do not support the Trump administration stance on trade? Specifically when it comes to China?

 

[panamaican]

I'll take your word for it when it comes to categorizing whoever you're talking about.

Is every single-issue vote ever cast a matter of identity politics, or is that just the fresh term that's supposed to make people feel bad for voting in their own self-interests?

The term identity politics is the term that the right has been aggressively using to categorize people who vote based on identity issues. Yes, they created it to make people feel bad for voting in their own self-interests. However, it's an apt descriptor for many voters on the right as well. And if they feel bad, well that's a bit ironic considering how frequently they use it against others.

What is particularly ironic however is that when the right uses it against the left for voting their own self-interests, the right is often arguing for policies that are not in their own best interests.

Allow me to be long-winded for a moment:

Many of the identity issues that minorities push for benefit them because minorities need the government to protect their economic interests precisely because that's the point of the government. To protect equal treatment for minority groups within the larger national structure. Similar to how our government system protects the interests of small states against the actions of large states.

However, for those in the majority, identity issues don't provide anywhere near the same return because they are already well represented in the economic and political structure. The majority should be voting on a class based system where the poorest parts of the majority vote for policies that improve their economic situation and richest parts of the majority vote for policies that improve theirs.

When the poorest parts of the majority vote for policies that continue to restrict their growth so that they prevent the poorest parts of the minority from also achieving more, they are not doing anything for themselves. They're simply consolidating wealth/power for the upper class of their group, not for themselves. It's like North Dakota voting to give its voting power to California and NY just to make sure that South Dakota doesn't get any more power either.

That's the craziest part about this whole thing, they're not actually voting in their self-interests.

 

[SBJJ]

I'll always ignore posters who think they know what is another humans self interest. You are essentially grouping people by doing that

Did whites vote for their self interest by voting in those that believed slavery to be moral?

People's self interest are all different. Some believe the unborn should be protected. Straight people believe gays should marry. Some rich believe they should pay more for a better society. And some people think they'd be better off if the government just left them alone for the most part.

People believing they know what is best for others when it comes to government intervention is not good imo

 

[panamaican]

Lol. So you are a Republican who does not support Trump because he has a bad mouth and is what you consider Anti Trade.

That's stupid. I didn't say he had a bad mouth. And he is engaging in protectionist policies in trade. He was very open about that being his goal. Maybe you don't like it when I call a duck a duck?

Everything else he's doing is just him going along with the people you agree with. But he does not actually believe in any of it

You didn't ask me if he's following the GOP. You asked me if he's governing like a Republican. I gave you an answer. You seem angry that I'm drawing a distinction between long-standing GOP policy and Trump-originated policy.

He does not actually believe in deregulation, TAX cuts, more military spending, abolishing the ACA, cutting the EPA, defunding PP, more border security/wall.

If you say so. I don't think he's knows anything about those subjects and is simply signing off on what the GOP is putting in front of him.

Again. No matter the reason. It seems you as a Republican should support the vast majority of what is being done

But that's not what you asked me. You asked me if Trump is governing like a Republican. Why are you changing the question?

Would you believe a guy who claimed to be a Democrat but did not support Obama on anything accomplished under his presidency?

Also. Are you saying you do not support the Trump administration stance on trade? Specifically when it comes to China?

See, this is why I generally don't engage you. You asked a question, I answered it and rather than respond to the specifics of my post, you've completely changed the question. It's disingenuous and I try not to feed into people who do that.

Don't ask me if I like cats and then complain that my answer doesn't discuss elephants.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

The term identity politics is the term that the right has been aggressively using to categorize people who vote based on identity issues. Yes, they created it to make people feel bad for voting in their own self-interests. However, it's an apt descriptor for many voters on the right as well. And if they feel bad, well that's a bit ironic considering how frequently they use it against others.

What is particularly ironic however is that when the right uses it against the left for voting their own self-interests, the right is often arguing for policies that are not in their own best interests.

No matter who's using the term, I find it dumbs things down far more than it ever illuminates.

If I choose not to vote Democrat because of their attacks on the 2nd Amendment, does that make it identity politics because my hobby is firearms? Or is it simply taking a stand for the Bill of Rights?

 

[nac386]

It's pretty bad both ways. But it just shows the difference when one sides key gripe is being called liberals or SJWs. While the other side complains of being called Racists, Bigots, Nazis

By the way. I'm a proud SJW when it comes to Gay Marriage and Animal rights

Well that's simply not true at all, and I have already corrected you on that, @MMAisGod must not have been following.

Like I said, on this forum (on a daily basis) liberals are accused of being racists, bigots, and philes. I already said that.

 

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[panamaican]

No matter who's using the term, I find it dumbs things down far more than it ever illuminates.

If I choose not to vote Democrat because of their attacks on the 2nd Amendment, does that make it identity politics because my hobby is firearms? Or is it simply taking a stand for the Bill of Rights?

For you? No, the 2nd Amendment is an actual policy conversation for you. You actually care about the issue and attempt to educate yourself on it beyond being opposed to those who want restrictions on it. Similarly, the MJ issue for you. You have reasons that are not based on identity.

And "identity politics" does dumb some things down. But it can be accurate as well. When NC Republicans try to restrict the voting rights of black Democrats in the state, it is identity politics for those black Democrats to vote against the GOP there. And when someone votes to keep the number of non-whites in the country to a minimum, that's identity politics too.

 

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