RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Benavidez vs. Morrell 2/1 6PM ET ( PBC / Prime )

[WklySportsMemes]

Literally every fight someone disagrees with something, don’t treat me like some weirdo, I paid 80 bucks and watched crisp HD on a giant bigscreen, not some shitbag stream on my phone, Morrell split Benavidez guard with uppercuts too, did you even see those? They even made the official highlights of the fight, and those are rapid clips meant to sell the idea benevidez is a star and won the fight.

I have no problem with Benevidez being the winner, but he edged it out at best and anyone standing on this like he “kicked” Morrells ass is a bunk scorer who didn’t think Morrell could A) punch hard/counter/stand his ground b) take Benavidez power and they clearly scored accordingly. Yeah I was rooting for Morrell, so what?

To this day I score Maidana/Khan for Khan but Maidana won the fight and became my favorite fighter that night. Get it?

And I’ve long since said none of you blind maniacs could score a fight, nothings changed.

I dont think its fair for you to say others cant score when you consistently have some of the worst scores all while never producing a scorecard. Thats for sure weird. Nobody had Morrell up or it close on the cards. Most people didn't say Morrell got his "ass kicked" though.

He did not do it as much as Benavidez did unless you watch the fight wanting to be a pretend expert & only wanting to save face for the wrong pick.
His own corner told him he was losing and he needed a stoppage. So I guess Ronnie Shields cant score a fight too now.

I honestly don't know how people who "follow" this sport still don't understand that a close fight can still be wide on the cards. Especially if the scoring is consistent & one guy does even just a little bit more each round.

Post your scorecard. Educate everyone.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

I dont think its fair for you to say others cant score when you consistently have some of the worst scores all while never producing a scorecard. Thats for sure weird. Nobody had Morrell up or it close on the cards. Most people didn't say Morrell got his "ass kicked" though.

He did not do it as much as Benavidez did unless you watch the fight wanting to be a pretend expert & only wanting to save face for the wrong pick.
His own corner told him he was losing and he needed a stoppage. So I guess Ronnie Shields cant score a fight too now.

I honestly don't know how people who "follow" this sport still don't understand that a close fight can still be wide on the cards. Especially if the scoring is consistent & one guy does even just a little bit more each round.

Post your scorecard. Educate everyone.

Okay, that’s easy

1 toss up
2 morrell
3morrell
4 morrell
5 benavidez
6 benavidez
7 benavidez
8 benavidez
9 Benavidez
10 morrell
11 Morrell wide, should have been a 10-8
12 toss up.

I did not do dumb shit like assume there was a power/chin difference and always score each round seperately, I don’t buy the punch stats and found the scoring/commentary incredibly biased to this idea when Benavidez is stalking he’s winning. He walked down absolutely no body, and I don’t think he’s the better fighter, don’t care what you think about my scores past or present, I’m not swayed by opinions of others post fight.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I'm serious because styles make fights. Morrell is a completely different style to beterbiev. Rewatch beterbiev and yarde and get back to me. Beterbiev has crap defense. You also have no basis to say Beterbiev hits harder than Morrell. Beterbiev comes forward, is smaller, slower than Benavidez and has worse defense, how on earth is that a bad match up for Benavidez? He is custom made.

The basis would be from a guy who has worked with and been in the the ring with both of them.
2:34min. LonnieThompson

But It's silly to deny that Biev has the power advantage out of the 2.
Sure styles make fights.
Sure the only way to beat Biev seems like a guy with Benavidez's style & mindset
Sure Benavidez may be able to hurt Biev who has been down or hurt multiple times by lesser fighters
But to compare power at 175 with Benevidez having 24 rounds of not really dropping or hurting anybody isn't objective.

Saying Biev has more power or the power advantage doesn't mean Benavidez can't use his power effectively on him for a W.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

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Okay, that’s easy

1 toss up
2 morrell
3morrell
4 morrell
5 benavidez
6 benavidez
7 benavidez
8 benavidez
9 Benavidez
10 morrell
11 Morrell wide, should have been a 10-8
12 toss up.

I did not do dumb shit like assume there was a power/chin difference and always score each round seperately, I don’t buy the punch stats and found the scoring/commentary incredibly biased to this idea when Benavidez is stalking he’s winning. He walked down absolutely no body, and I don’t think he’s the better fighter, don’t care what you think about my scores past or present, I’m not swayed by opinions of others post fight.

So if you're on your back foot, consistently pushed to the corner or ropes, and shelled up for periods of inactivity it's biased to commentate or call that stalking effective????
That doesn't come into the scoring criteria???
Not asking for an opinion...But the actual rules/criteria.

What do the punch stats have to do with live scoring?

 

[borntoloseNOT]

So if you're on your back foot, consistently pushed to the corner or ropes, and shelled up for periods of inactivity it's biased to commentate or call that stalking effective????
That doesn't come into the scoring criteria???
Not asking for an opinion...But the actual rules/criteria.

What do the punch stats have to do with live scoring?

Moving forward losing exchanges and being unable to land clean all but once in the tail end of the fourth round because your opponent was so comfortable clowning on you he got lazy only to come back and retake momentum before the round is up hurting you as you jump in to try and finish isn’t winning rounds, it’s called being out boxed and the one punch you landed be erased moments after you landed it. Morrell won no less than 3 of first 4 rounds, let me see your score card.

 

[StopDucking]

Okay, that’s easy

1 toss up
2 morrell
3morrell
4 morrell
5 benavidez
6 benavidez
7 benavidez
8 benavidez
9 Benavidez
10 morrell
11 Morrell wide, should have been a 10-8
12 toss up.

I did not do dumb shit like assume there was a power/chin difference and always score each round seperately, I don’t buy the punch stats and found the scoring/commentary incredibly biased to this idea when Benavidez is stalking he’s winning. He walked down absolutely no body, and I don’t think he’s the better fighter, don’t care what you think about my scores past or present, I’m not swayed by opinions of others post fight.

Scoring not just one, but two 10-10 rounds in a single fight is ridiculous. Just saying.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Moving forward losing exchanges and being unable to land clean all but once in the tail end of the fourth round because your opponent was so comfortable clowning on you he got lazy only to come back and retake momentum before the round is up hurting you as you jump in to try and finish isn’t winning rounds, it’s called being out boxed and the one punch you landed be erased moments after you landed it. Morrell won no less than 3 of first 4 rounds, let me see your score card.

None of that factually has anything to do with how Morrell wound up in the corner, on the ropes, or inactive. None of that is winning rounds because you don't want to honestly address it or.talk over it.

Sure, lets go in order though.
"What do the punch stats have to do with live scoring?"
Is that a scary question for some reason or did you just not see it?

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Scoring not just one, but two 10-10 rounds in a single fight is ridiculous. Just saying.

Not 10/10 rounds, just rounds I knew would go to A side regardless of criteria. You predicted Benevidez by stoppage right? Or was that Roids? Don’t think your prediction really panned out too well either. This was a close fight, total bitch move to try and tag me after, you feel confident your boy won wide, cool have fun, I’m certainly not motivated to keep track, but no sense acting like Morrell looked shitty or something, dude looked like a star with a little more work. Benavidez found his ceiling.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

None of that factually has anything to do with how Morrell wound up in the corner, on the ropes, or inactive. None of that is winning rounds because you don't want to honestly address it or.talk over it.

Sure, lets go in order though.
"What do the punch stats have to do with live scoring?"
Is that a scary question for some reason or did you just not see it?

Calm down I have no idea what you are even talking about anymore

Fighter on the back foot is only losing and not the ring general if he’s getting hit and retreating, not if he’s racking up connects and counters with footwork, maneuvering and better boxing. Morrell clearly came in to showboat and frustrate and style first 4 rounds and he did just that. He did what he wanted to do and did so with better defensive maneuvers and athleticism. He expended energy early which was a tactical mistake, but the first four rounds he bagged no less than three being the boxer fooling the bull. More connects. The more effective aggression, the control of the pace and the defense diffusing Benavidez offense for almost 4 complete rounds. Did I cover enough of criteria or do you want to pretend certain fighting styles get more consideration than others within the criteria? Because it sounds like you think walking forward and stalking automatically = more effective aggression/ring general.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Calm down I have no idea what you are even talking about anymore

Fighter on the back foot is only losing and not the ring general if he’s getting hit and retreating, not if he’s racking up connects and counters with footwork, maneuvering and better boxing. Morrell clearly came in to showboat and frustrate and style first 4 rounds and he did just that. He did what he wanted to do and did so with better defensive maneuvers and athleticism. He expended energy early which was a tactical mistake, but the first four rounds he bagged no less than three being the boxer fooling the bull. More connects. The more effective aggression, the control of the pace and the defense diffusing Benavidez offense for almost 4 complete rounds. Did I cover enough of criteria or do you want to pretend certain fighting styles get more consideration than others within the criteria? Because it sounds like you think walking forward and stalking automatically = more effective aggression/ring general.

Everybody is calm except for your fake edgelord shtick. They are simple questions. I understand that they may be above your understanding.

Morrell was hit repeatedly in the corner and on the ropes though. Only a hack would say otherwise. Lmao at Benavidez not landing there. So absurd.

That is not an accurate description of the first 4 rounds especially when YOU called one of them a toss up.

Okay, that’s easy

1 toss up
2 morrell
3morrell
4 morrell

Did you forget you just posted that????


It sounds like you can't handle being wrong about a pick & doing a lot of post fact justification and blaming.


You also are still avoiding "what do punch stats have to do with live scoring? "

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Everybody is calm except for your fake edgelord shtick. They are simple questions. I understand that they may be above your understanding.

Morrell was hit repeatedly in the corner and on the ropes though. Only a hack would say otherwise. Lmao at Benavidez not landing there. So absurd.

That is not an accurate description of the first 4 rounds especially when YOU called one of them a toss up.

Did you forget you just posted that????


It sounds like you can't handle being wrong about a pick & doing a lot of post fact justification and blaming.


You also are still avoiding "what do punch stats have to do with live scoring? "

The punch stats and commentary’s narrative of the fight didn’t match what I was seeing, that’s why the punch stats matter, I didn’t agree and was scoring different than the ringside scorer who chimed in with his unofficial score. That’s why I called them super biased.

Are you really attacking me for writing off a total feeling-out opening round to the A side or calling a round where two clowns tap danced like dipshits for 10 seconds to close out the fight a toss up? Honestly worst end to a good fight I’ve seen in a long time and again who seperated themselves in that final round? Tell me? Of course the A side gets it.

 

[randomg1t]

He didn’t need to stick and move at all, did just fine in the fire fight. You guys gave Benavidez too much credit for standing in front of his guy completely unable to fight his normal fight and having to pick himself off the canvas. No fucking way those punch stats were even close to correct, and Benevidez had zero power differential , just can’t see how anyone had Benavidez way ahead in a fight he barely scraped out due to a shit ref. Morrell wins rematch easy.

oh yeah morrell fought perfectly, which is why he lost by every available metric.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

oh yeah morrell fought perfectly, which is why he lost by every available metric.

Metric? Metrics are not the criteria buddy. Metrics are like punch counting, and it ain’t the ammies.

Here’s a metric: who scored the most knockdowns?

 

[borntoloseNOT]

oh yeah morrell fought perfectly, which is why he lost by every available metric.

Where’s your score card?

@WklySportsMemes where’s that scorecard?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The punch stats and commentary’s narrative of the fight didn’t match what I was seeing, that’s why the punch stats matter, I didn’t agree and was scoring different than the ringside scorer who chimed in with his unofficial score. That’s why I called them super biased.

Are you really attacking me for writing off a total feeling-out opening round to the A side or calling a round where two clowns tap danced like dipshits for 10 seconds to close out the fight a toss up? Honestly worst end to a good fight I’ve seen in a long time and again who seperated themselves in that final round? Tell me? Of course the A side gets it.

How is it attacking you? Jesus.... its literally boxing talk. You made a bold claim that nobody agrees with. Then pushed the narrative that everyone else can't score a fight but you.

They are biased...But you went on about Morrell winning for a while now then are literally the only person in the world who scored it for Morrell. Hmmmm
My point there is the live commentary and punch stats don't have to do with the judging. Or it shouldn't.

-A side B side have nothing to do with scoring
- What one does in the last round only matters for that round. Its not a reflection of what happened in seperately scored rounds.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Where’s your score card?

@WklySportsMemes where’s that scorecard?

I can fish it from the thread. Which I don't mind doing for honest conversation, but not if it's nonsense talk.
I believe we have 3&4 different but will have to check.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

How is it attacking you? Jesus.... its literally boxing talk. You made a bold claim that nobody agrees with. Then pushed the narrative that everyone else can't score a fight but you.

They are biased...But you went on about Morrell winning for a while now then are literally the only person in the world who scored it for Morrell. Hmmmm
My point there is the live commentary and punch stats don't have to do with the judging. Or it shouldn't.

-A side B side have nothing to do with scoring
- What one does in the last round only matters for that round. Its not a reflection of what happened in seperately scored rounds.

Never said Morrell won. He could have, but he made some tactical errors.

What I do believe is a draw would have been fair, 7-5 I guess, but only because the ref, 6-5 would have been accurate.

I always stick to my own score, otherwise it’s an echo chamber.

@StopDucking came to thread to tag me to say he was right when he predicted Benavidez by stoppage in an easier than expected fight because Morrell would be off balance and I didn’t know what I was looking at. lol, that fight was life and death for Benavidez and the only one who showed shit footwork and balance was the Mexican Stumbler. Then you and others replied my reply to him.

Could honestly care less. Morrells stock went up. Benavidez is at his ceiling. That’s my prediction from here. If you stop replying me I’ll stop responding.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Never said Morrell won. He could have, but he made some tactical errors.

What I do believe is a draw would have been fair, 7-5 I guess, but only because the ref, 6-5 would have been accurate.

I always stick to my own score, otherwise it’s an echo chamber.

@StopDucking came to thread to tag me to say he was right when he predicted Benavidez by stoppage in an easier than expected fight because Morrell would be off balance and I didn’t know what I was looking at. lol, that fight was life and death for Benavidez and the only one who showed shit footwork and balance was the Mexican Stumbler. Then you and others replied my reply to him.

Could honestly care less. Morrells stock went up. Benavidez is at his ceiling. That’s my prediction from here. If you stop replying me I’ll stop responding.

So 6-5 is a draw best case???....6+5= 11 Chief not making much sense. Especially when you concede to 2 toss up rounds prior to the 12th.

Cool story...Basically you were wrong about picking Morrell to win (like many of us) but can't handle picking a fight wrong. Why do non boxing experts get so emotionally attached to rando fight picks. Like anyone here is making money or a reputation off evenly matched fights.

Your Benavidez ceiling prediction might work out like everyone's "Morrell will beat Benavidez prediction. " Seems credible.... I don't care if you post or don't, not sure why you bringing that up. Weird/Strange

 

[borntoloseNOT]

So 6-5 is a draw best case???....6+5= 11 Chief not making much sense. Especially when you concede to 2 toss up rounds prior to the 12th.

Cool story...Basically you were wrong about picking Morrell to win (like many of us) but can't handle picking a fight wrong. Why do non boxing experts get so emotionally attached to rando fight picks. Like anyone here is making money or a reputation off evenly matched fights.

Your Benavidez ceiling prediction might work out like everyone's "Morrell will beat Benavidez prediction. " Seems credible.... I don't care if you post or don't, not sure why you bringing that up. Weird/Strange

no, 6-6 was a best case for Morrell, and would have been a Morrell win with the KD actually counting and not getting cancelled out. Possible on my card.

7-5 Benavidez I’d accept if we are gonna honor the dipshits refs call

6-5 would have been right on money if ref wasn’t a cunt.

No point discussing if you can’t keep up. Bye.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

no, 6-6 was a best case for Morrell, and would have been a Morrell win with the KD actually counting and not getting cancelled out. Possible on my card.

7-5 Benavidez I’d accept if we are gonna honor the dipshits refs call

6-5 would have been right on money if ref wasn’t a cunt.

No point discussing if you can’t keep up. Bye.

Its you on an island with a made up narrative of Benavidez not having more scoring criteria success than the guy you picked. Even Morrell's team said this wasn't the case.
Classic case of the least knowledgeable & most emotional person in the room larping as the big brain. Right, everyone was biased except you. Please

P.s. you cant have 2 toss up rounds and say there were only 2 acceptable outcomes. Keep up with that math.