Elections Official Sherdawg Presidential debate round 1 PbP

[Rob Battisti]

I thought you were an intelligent guy. You must know that 4 years of the presidency could create all kinds of opportunities for a very serious emergencies to happen. No one said it was happening. Now what I'm saying is how could you possibly put a man who has true cognitive decline in the office of presidency when something like that could easily come up?

There's no way the Biden we saw the debate is qualified or fit to carry around the football to launch nuclear weapons at a moment's notice.

Part of being the president is being fit to carry that kind of responsibility and Biden is not fit to carry it.

Biden would be president in the year 2029 jeez

 

[cottagecheesefan]

There are now some Democrat senators stepping forward and saying things no one would ever say unless they wanted him to step down. I just posted a video above about it.

What I cant understand is how you could support Biden after that obviously terrible performance when one of the jobs of the office of presidency is to keep Americans safe from foreign adversaries. The football is always near Joe Biden so that he can launch nuclear weapons at a moment's notice in the case of an emergency. I just can't imagine anybody wanting that guy to be the guy that makes that decision at 2:00 a.m. with minutes to come to the conclusion... Or just moments to call another leader of a country to work something out....

You might say that's unlikely and surely that's true but come on man. He's not fit for those kinds of decisions and those kinds of decisions could easily come up while he's president.

Don't worry bro, NBC is now reporting that Hunter is taking over for Joe. All totally normal and we are in good hands! If we elect Biden in November, we just have Hunter carry out his duties for him. Not sure why someone with a drug addiction and working with oligarchs in Russia, the CCP, etc is in White House meetings, but OK!

Hunter Biden has joined White House meetings as he stays close to the president post-debate​

WASHINGTON — Hunter Biden has joined meetings with President Joe Biden and his top aides since his father returned to the White House from Camp David on Monday evening, according to four people familiar with the matter.

The president’s son has also been talking to senior White House staff, these people said.

While he is regularly at the White House residence and events, it is unusual for the president's son to be in and around meetings that his father is having with his team.

One of the people familiar with the matter said Hunter Biden has been closely advising his father since the family gathered this past weekend at Camp David after Thursday’s debate. This person said Hunter Biden has "popped into" a couple of meetings and phone calls the president has had with some of his advisers.

Another person familiar with the matter said the reaction from some senior White House staff has been, “What the hell is happening?”

 

[terrapin]

I just told you i don't think one bad debate performance is more important that the past 3 years of good governance. But if these governors and others know more information about his mental capabilities and there is real decline i wouldn't have a problem with replacing him. The issue is that i don't think he's demonstrated the kind of decline that the maga monkeys are howling about. It's also demonstrates the two different standards between right wing losers and normal people. right wing losers support trump despite years of decline, saying stupid shit, incoherent rambling "speeches" with a teleprompter, etc. Doesn't know where he is half the time, confuses people, doesn't know their names... and Biden has one bad performance. Most normal people are like "damn, he didn't look great."

By the ton of Democrats have stepped forward and said the same thing. We have to be careful here not to become so partisan that we don't see the truth right in front of us.

The Biden in that debate is not fit to carry around the football and launch nuclear weapons at a moment's notice. He just isn't and it doesn't matter if that happens once a month or twice a yea or daily. He's unfit to be president in that condition.

I think you guys are just whistling in the dark irresponsibly and have no respect for the office of presidency and how serious it really is. And I also think it's disingenuous to pretend that governing the country during the hours you're cognitively clear is in any way comparable to being able to handle an emergency at 2:00 a.m.. those two require very different states of clarity and Biden has demonstrated he does not have that clarity.

I think that matter to every single Democrat who cares about our country.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

I had a customer some years ago who had a PHD in “video game design” (or something like that.)
He liked to be called “Dr. ____________)

The armchair psychologist in me want to call that his insecurity of having a shit phd

 

[AWilder]

By the ton of Democrats have stepped forward and said the same thing. We have to be careful here not to become so partisan that we don't see the truth right in front of us.

The Biden in that debate is not fit to carry around the football and launch nuclear weapons at a moment's notice. He just isn't and it doesn't matter if that happens once a month or twice a yea or daily. He's unfit to be president in that condition.

I think you guys are just whistling in the dark irresponsibly and have no respect for the office of presidency and how serious it really is. And I also think it's disingenuous to pretend that governing the country during the hours you're cognitively clear is in any way comparable to being able to handle an emergency at 2:00 a.m.. those two require very different states of clarity and Biden has demonstrated he does not have that clarity.

I think that matter to every single Democrat who cares about our country.

do you think Trump is mentally fit to be president?

 

[brothir]

The people arguing that all they care about is policy should have supported replacing Biden so that Democrats would have a candidate who can actually speak, campaign properly, and stand up to Trump. Historically the election winner tends to be the most charismatic candidate. Whatever charisma Joe once had is completely gone. All that policy you supposedly support goes out the window if Trump wins the election. Propping up someone who should be in the retirement home and attempting to drag them through the campaign trail is a losing strategy.

No one's dragging Biden through this. Biden won the nomination 4 years ago. If you think Kamala Harris or Buttigieg should be the candidate instead, they themselves clearly are not convinced. And if you have no real opinion on a specific person you think is preferable, what you're writing here is performative nonsense.

 

[terrapin]

do you think Trump is mentally fit to be president?

Absolutely not and I've said so several times in the last couple of pages!!! Trump is mentally unfit to be president while his cognitive abilities are high, let alone if they're slipping. And at least Biden will have a non-psychopathic cabinet around him to guide the country in the right way if he loses his mind. Whereas Trump will only have fellow psychopaths and yes men.

That's why I think it is absolutely imperative that we stop carrying water for Biden and force him to step down and replace him with somebody that can beat Trump and handle the office of presidency in a fit way.

 

[Jack V Savage]

So you lied
Laugh all you want
Either a body double or seizure glasses. One or the other
Another lie
Another lie
Another lie
Another lie

I actually started the SC thread with I don’t think I want the president to have absolute immunity.

No, that was a true statement.
I will. It's ridiculous, and I think you actually know that but are arguing it anyway.
I think you say that kind of crazy shit thinking that you're in a safe space, but you also know it sounds ridiculous.
All true statements.
Um, OK. Anyone reading can see what you did there. What you said, and what I said you said was that the president needs to be able to commit crimes to do his job. What's you're denying is "absolute immunity" (you said "a lot" of immunity with italics is necessary but you don't know about absolute).

 

[terrapin]

No one's dragging Biden through this. Biden won the nomination 4 years ago. If you think Kamala Harris or Buttigieg should be the candidate instead, they themselves clearly are not convinced. And if you have no real opinion on a specific person you think is preferable, what you're writing here is performative nonsense.

That beats whistling in the dark and pretending there's no chance that a serious emergency that requires a mentally fit president to navigate over 2 or 3 months at a time with long long days everyday isn't a possibility.

Or that Biden won't be forced to make a decision in moments in the middle of the night whether or not to use the football and launch nuclear weapons.

It's just criminally negligent to pretend this isn't a possibility and then also to pretend Biden would be qualified to handle the situation or to pretend it doesn't matter if the president is mentally there or not because other people will take care of it.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I thought you were an intelligent guy. You must know that 4 years of the presidency could create all kinds of opportunities for a very serious emergencies to happen.

Sure. I don't agree that he can't handle it. Didn't you see where I addressed that? He's been handling crises and emergencies.

 

[blaseblase]

Hur was speaking about Biden in the future tense, if he were to go to court, a process that would take years and not even begin until he left office. I don't think it's any great insight that a man in his 80's would want to appear sympathetic to a jury. Also what qualification does Hur have to speak on Biden's mental health? I'd bet his mental health sucked because he was interviewed the day after the Hamas attack. Can't imagine he got much sleep or rest prior to the interview.

They were referring to his current ability level. And if you're going to speculate about the Hamas attack, isn't that by itself a reason he should not be president? This is a job that needs competence and the ability to function under stress. This isn't rocket science. He's an old man and has shown the typical decline of an elderly person for the last several years. 5 years is a very long time and he can't even handle the job now. This is elderly abuse. Did you see him on stage with Jill after the debate where she was talking to him like he was a 3 year old?

 

[terrapin]

Sure. I don't agree that he can't handle it. Didn't you see where I addressed that? He's been handling crises and emergencies.

Where has he been required to make a decision in moments whether or not to fire off nuclear weapons at an adversary using the football?

That is a distinct and real possibility or else we wouldn't have a football for the president to use!!

You guys are whistling in the dark.

Also, whether or not supporting a genocide against the Palestinians who are more in the right than the Israelis are is good governance is up for debate obviously

Personally, it's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Do you think Biden is qualified to launch nuclear weapons in the middle of the night while he's in the state he was in during the debate?

I don't believe anybody honest can answer yes to that question.

 

[brothir]

That beats whistling in the dark and pretending there's no chance that a serious emergency that requires a mentally fit president to navigate over 2 or 3 months at a time with long long days everyday isn't a possibility.

Or that Biden won't be forced to make a decision in moments in the middle of the night whether or not to use the football and launch nuclear weapons.

It's just criminally negligent to pretend this isn't a possibility and then also to pretend Biden would be qualified to handle the situation or to pretend it doesn't matter if the president is mentally there or not because other people will take care of it.

"Maybe something bad will happen" isn't a conclusive argument in any way. Might as well just stay in bed all day, every day, with that philosophy. If you personally think that a number of other high-ranking Democrats are better suited for the job, fine. But Biden's getting the nomination because of the obvious advantage of already having won an election. Having a preference for that obvious outcome isn't irresponsible. Being pointlessly contrarian like you and blaseblah, on the other hand, is.

 

[blaseblase]

No one's dragging Biden through this. Biden won the nomination 4 years ago. If you think Kamala Harris or Buttigieg should be the candidate instead, they themselves clearly are not convinced. And if you have no real opinion on a specific person you think is preferable, what you're writing here is performative nonsense.

You are aware he has a team of handlers right? In most of his recent public appearances he appears lost and has to be guided on where to go. This is elderly abuse.

 

[brothir]

You are aware he has a team of handlers right? In most of his recent public appearances he appears lost and has to be guided on where to go. This is elderly abuse.

He has a team who assists him, like any significant politician. "Handlers" isn't accurate, and neither is calling it elderly abuse. Stop being a drama queen. There are actual stakes in this election, and given the recent "decision" by the "Supreme" Court they are just about as significant as can be imagined.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

More on Hunter Biden attending WH meetings.




Wow, and now Big Gretch does not want to be seen with the Bidens. Moves are being made!



Also KJP announcing Biden will do a full press conference next week. Will be make or break for Biden IMO

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

More on Hunter Biden attending WH meetings.




Wow, and now Big Gretch does not want to be seen with the Bidens. Moves are being made!



Also KJP announcing Biden will do a full press conference next week. Will be make or break for Biden IMO

Hunter Biden is now being referred to as his "most trusted senior advisor". lol

 

[White Whale]

The media all said Biden was sharp as a tack before the debate but changed their minds afterwards.

 

[Mr Holmes]

MSN

WASHINGTON (AP) — A House Democratic lawmaker has become the first in the party to publicly call for President Joe Biden to step down as the party's nominee for president, citing Biden’s debate performance against Donald Trump failing to “effectively defend his many accomplishments.”

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

The media all said Biden was sharp as a tack before the debate but changed their minds afterwards.

amazing that democrats themselves aren't mad at being lied to for 3 years.