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Anyone recommend a good judo podcast to follow?
 
RemyR said:
Anyone recommend a good judo podcast to follow?
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I used to listen to The Judo Edit. It was okay.

Episode 70 of the Raspberry Ape podcast had Ben Poppleton telling some good stories of British judo great Steve Gawthorpe. I think one of the newer episodes has Neil Adams too.
 
subtlySteve said:
I'm highly interested in no-gi Judo and I love this no-gi osotogari (my favorite) takedown.

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That maybe a controversial opinion by I find that some judo throws work better in no gi. Conversely, I find that some throws typically associated with wrestling work even better in judo gi.

But maybe I am saying that just because I am in a "merging judo and wrestling" phase and will come back in a year saying it was a shit idea.
 
I wish I'd been taught some no gi stuff when I was doing judo. I think it would make it more relevant for self defense.
 
ShadowoftheSun said:
I disagree. Most of the time you're not going to be attacked by a dude who's naked, and you can definitely use a normal T-shirt for most judo throws.
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I just realised for the first time that the toughest part about throwing someone using his clothes is the weirdness of it.

I have never used judo in da streetz but I could imagine that it might be surprisingly easy to throw untrained pedestrians using their jackets.
 
KBE6EKCTAH_CCP said:
I just realised for the first time that the toughest part about throwing someone using his clothes is the weirdness of it.

I have never used judo in da streetz but I could imagine that it might be surprisingly easy to throw untrained pedestrians using their jackets.
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I somehow find gripping and moving people wearing hoodies or leather jackets even more comfortable than with a gi, because the texture is so much softer. Throwing might be awkward with thin clothes though, because i guess it would end up more like a hockey fight.
 
Patrick Jane said:
I somehow find gripping and moving people wearing hoodies or leather jackets even more comfortable than with a gi, because the texture is so much softer. Throwing might be awkward with thin clothes though, because i guess it would end up more like a hockey fight.
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Jackets, hoodies, belts, waistbands - all great grips to take on street clothing. I wouldn't personally try with a T-shirt, but it can be done. Strangling with a T-shirt is brutally effective though, especially Juji-Jime. It's like strangling with a cheesewire.
 
Has anyone had much success using the lapel as the hikite grip? So, tsurite over the shoulder, round the back, or on the belt, and gripping the left lapel rather than the sleeve. Seeing Riner throw that huge Harai Goshi has made me want to play around with it.
 
Einheri said:
Has anyone had much success using the lapel as the hikite grip? So, tsurite over the shoulder, round the back, or on the belt, and gripping the left lapel rather than the sleeve. Seeing Riner throw that huge Harai Goshi has made me want to play around with it.
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Fairly often. We even worked on it last night - gripping down to the belt if possible. It makes for a massive o goshi(?), but I often worry about tori trying to post their free arm out.
 
Einheri said:
Has anyone had much success using the lapel as the hikite grip? So, tsurite over the shoulder, round the back, or on the belt, and gripping the left lapel rather than the sleeve. Seeing Riner throw that huge Harai Goshi has made me want to play around with it.
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I played with it about a year ago. Our BJJ coach (pro MMA + basic Judo) seems to prefer it in gi but that's probably just his no gi preference coming out. With underhook or belt (either front or georgian) tsurite, I think it's a decent grip variation but its primary benefit is that it can be easier to secure vs. sleeve grip and might be less expected. However, mechanically speaking, I'm not sure why it would ever be PREFERRED over sleeve grip hikite. It's literally a shorter lever arm to turn uke into the throw. But I'm open to being corrected if anyone has found otherwise.
 
ChickenBrother said:
I played with it about a year ago. Our BJJ coach (pro MMA + basic Judo) seems to prefer it in gi but that's probably just his no gi preference coming out. With underhook or belt (either front or georgian) tsurite, I think it's a decent grip variation but its primary benefit is that it can be easier to secure vs. sleeve grip and might be less expected. However, mechanically speaking, I'm not sure why it would ever be PREFERRED over sleeve grip hikite. It's literally a shorter lever arm to turn uke into the throw. But I'm open to being corrected if anyone has found otherwise.
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I think that's more or less it. It's potentially an easier grip to get and a surprise to uke.

If you can get down the back, or to the belt, it's a really strong control position though - basically a body lock.
 
The judogi is the way it is as a training tool - it's tough enough that you can use it for throws thousands of times without ripping.

A normal t-shirt or hoodie is nowhere near that tough - it'll give from the strain of throwing someone, sometimes even on the first throw - but the whole idea of training for ippon is that once you've hit that throw onto concrete, they ain't gonna be getting back up.

I like looking at no gi options too, especially with stuff like hip throws, but if we're talking from a strict self defense stand point you'll usually be able to use your gi style grips on someone.
 
It's very easy to use your imagination and alter grips to make Judo work without a gi
Dig your fingers into someone's lower tricep and place your other hand on someone's throat/under chin and hit an easy osotogari for one example

A hand around the throat with a tight grip will be enough to break nearly anyone's balance
 
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