Multiplat Official Cyberpunk: Phantom Liberty Discussion

Will the PL expansion prove a do-over for the title after widely maligned launch?


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I have been putting in the hours over the past few weeks in Cyberpunk. I am finally beginning to feel like a 'Ghostrunner'/katana type build with the finisher and air dash (which I have yet to use in combat lol - really useful for traversal though). I am having a lot of fun. Jackie's funeral hit hard :( I spent some time grinding gigs and cyberpsychos, and got the unique katana from Wakako, which is a ton of fun. I think after I reach the top perks in reflex, I will branch out a little in technical/intelligence. Being a Netrunner seems like a lot of fun.
 
About 35 hours in and I gotta say, "stealth" is absolutely pointless in this game. You can do it if you want to, but damn near every time I try, I'm always spotted by someone and all hell breaks loose. There are simply no penalties for fucking up, so it renders it kind of moot. Like, I could spend an hour sneaking around and reloading saves when I mess up, OR...I can just kill the fuck out of everything in five minutes and beat the mission.

It just makes me think that in order for stealth to work in games, there has to be a penalty for messing it up. Otherwise, what's the point? You're giving me options, and I'm gonna go with the most efficient choice. In a weird way, it reminded me of "Saints Row 4", where you get superpowers right out of the gate, but you still have the "traditional" ways of playing the game that are rendered useless, because you simply don't need to use them. You'd have to be a serious "role player" to even bother with it.
I did the whole game stealth I was never spotted really. I enjoyed it but yea I can acknowledge that there is no penalty for being caught other than having to switch up your play style.

When I replay the game I plan to go all guns blazing.
 
I did the whole game stealth I was never spotted really. I enjoyed it but yea I can acknowledge that there is no penalty for being caught other than having to switch up your play style.

When I replay the game I plan to go all guns blazing.
It's a shame, because the system itself is pretty good, with lots of options for distraction and whatnot, and it's got a pretty good stealth skill tree as well. I'm thinking they should've made some stealth specific areas to force you into it a bit(although, I'd probably bitch about that too, if I got hung up on a mission, LOL). It can break immersion too, because there are a few missions where stealth is strongly emphasized by the mission givers, but nothing changes if you don't abide by it. For a game as detailed as this, I thought they would at least have a character chew me out for not following the plan, but nope. It's all "good job!" no matter what you do. I think maybe one character gave a "Whoa, what are doing?" response, after I broke stealth on one mission, but that was about it.

Guns blazing is pretty cool, though. Especially if you bother with all flashy moves you can do, like jumping out of cars while firing, or doing slo-mo flips over people while head shotting them. You can do some pretty cool Matrix shit in this game.
 
You ain't lying. I don't recall ever doing anything stealthily, I just busted in all Guns of Navarone and got into fire fights with everyone

I tried stealth but just ended up endlessly reloading the game whenever I screwed up.

Did a body, technical ability and intelligence the shotgun build and ended up a lot happier. Also was able to stealth through key sections anyway, with no points in Cool.
 
It's a shame, because the system itself is pretty good, with lots of options for distraction and whatnot, and it's got a pretty good stealth skill tree as well. I'm thinking they should've made some stealth specific areas to force you into it a bit(although, I'd probably bitch about that too, if I got hung up on a mission, LOL). It can break immersion too, because there are a few missions where stealth is strongly emphasized by the mission givers, but nothing changes if you don't abide by it. For a game as detailed as this, I thought they would at least have a character chew me out for not following the plan, but nope. It's all "good job!" no matter what you do. I think maybe one character gave a "Whoa, what are doing?" response, after I broke stealth on one mission, but that was about it.

Guns blazing is pretty cool, though. Especially if you bother with all flashy moves you can do, like jumping out of cars while firing, or doing slo-mo flips over people while head shotting them. You can do some pretty cool Matrix shit in this game.
Yea the whole reason I went stealth is because I love stealth games. I feel like we don't get enough of them but I get it, it's a very niche genre. Like you said it's very good in this game so even though there was really no penalty in messing up I still enjoyed it. Hopefully now with the groundwork laid out for this series they can expand on it more in the next one.

I'm really looking forward to going guns blazing honestly. I played the demo on PS5 and the dual sense controller really makes the guns feel great. Just that alone made me want to do it. The game is to expensive right now though and they don't seem to have any interest in dropping it below $40 for the main game and expansion. I don't want to pay anything over $30 for it. I originally played it on PC.
 
I tried stealth but just ended up endlessly reloading the game whenever I screwed up.

Did a body, technical ability and intelligence the shotgun build and ended up a lot happier. Also was able to stealth through key sections anyway, with no points in Cool.
Fuck, you made me wanna play this all over again. I've always said my favorite games are 1a and 1b Punch-Out! and Super Metroid, but I think maybe it is actually Cyberpunk. Rarely have I had so much fun playing anything
 
Fuck, you made me wanna play this all over again. I've always said my favorite games are 1a and 1b Punch-Out! and Super Metroid, but I think maybe it is actually Cyberpunk. Rarely have I had so much fun playing anything
I'm still messing around with it from time to time, closing in on 100% playthrough. Got a couple more endings to mess with but cleared out all the gigs and police scanner jobs.

Just picked up Rogue's gun from her ending and slapped a silencer on it for crazy stealth headshot damage. Did most of the playthrough with katanas or gorilla arms.
 
I'm still messing around with it from time to time, closing in on 100% playthrough. Got a couple more endings to mess with but cleared out all the gigs and police scanner jobs.

Just picked up Rogue's gun from her ending and slapped a silencer on it for crazy stealth headshot damage. Did most of the playthrough with katanas or gorilla arms.
Playing with mostly those weapons only is wild. Would make it much more difficult.

If you haven't, go purchase the Kaneda from Akira motorcycle. It is the best vehicle in the game (or maybe I just love it and refused to use any other vehicle unless I had to)
 
Playing with mostly those weapons only is wild. Would make it much more difficult.

If you haven't, go purchase the Kaneda from Akira motorcycle. It is the best vehicle in the game (or maybe I just love it and refused to use any other vehicle unless I had to)
I found it much easier as I'm kind of trash with guns. Once you have the skill where you can parry bullets with the katana, and aim them back at the shooter plus they leave a bleed when they hit even the worst gun fights were pretty easy just by finding cover until sandevistan is off cd. Then slow time, dash in and kill 8 guys and drop behind cover again.

I've mostly been using the akira bike, kusanagi I think it is?
 
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I found it much easier as I'm kind of trash with guns. Once you have the skill where you can parry bullets with the katana, and aim them back at the shooter plus they leave a bleed when they hit even the worst gun fights were pretty easy just by finding cover until sandevistan is off cd. Then slow time, dash in and kill 8 guys and drop behind cover again.

I've mostly been using the akira bike, kusanagi I think it is?
Kusanagi sounds right. It's been like 6-8 months since I've played, and I'm old enough that my memory fades a little faster than it once did.

I really need to replay that game, probably several times over. I know I missed a shitload of stuff bc I didn't use walkthroughs or guides, which isn't going to get you as far in a huge game like that one. It is probably built for several replays bc there is just so much going on.

I imagine that there are still people who claim that game is trash, as I'm aware of all the difficulties it had upon release, but I wasn't around for any of that, was locked up. I bought it in early 2022, didn't play it until late 2024, and by that time all the kinks were worked out, my first experience with that game was A1. They put so much effort into that game. Building upon the lore that the RPG started in the 80s. Maybe the most gorgeous game I've ever played. And they didn't skimp on missions or things to do, you could just run around for years and probably find stuff you didn't know about.

I'm absolutely stoked for GTA6 later this year (maybe, hopefully), but idk that I anticipate any game more than the sequel to Cyberpunk. I hope they don't take as long as Rockstar.
 
Kusanagi sounds right. It's been like 6-8 months since I've played, and I'm old enough that my memory fades a little faster than it once did.

I really need to replay that game, probably several times over. I know I missed a shitload of stuff bc I didn't use walkthroughs or guides, which isn't going to get you as far in a huge game like that one. It is probably built for several replays bc there is just so much going on.

I imagine that there are still people who claim that game is trash, as I'm aware of all the difficulties it had upon release, but I wasn't around for any of that, was locked up. I bought it in early 2022, didn't play it until late 2024, and by that time all the kinks were worked out, my first experience with that game was A1. They put so much effort into that game. Building upon the lore that the RPG started in the 80s. Maybe the most gorgeous game I've ever played. And they didn't skimp on missions or things to do, you could just run around for years and probably find stuff you didn't know about.

I'm absolutely stoked for GTA6 later this year (maybe, hopefully), but idk that I anticipate any game more than the sequel to Cyberpunk. I hope they don't take as long as Rockstar.
I did one playthrough at normal diff going in blind, sided with Reed and did the aldecaldo ending. It was way too easy towards the end and I found out about the hidden ending and then did another playthrough at ultra hard, sided with songbird, and wasnt shy about looking up item locations and dialogue options needed to open up the hidden ending in that playthrough.

That's the playthrough I'm on now and working towards 100%ing.

I didn't pick up the game until this fall, so I had the benefit of all the patches and tuning too.
 
I did one playthrough at normal diff going in blind, sided with Reed and did the aldecaldo ending. It was way too easy towards the end and I found out about the hidden ending and then did another playthrough at ultra hard, sided with songbird, and wasnt shy about looking up item locations and dialogue options needed to open up the hidden ending in that playthrough.

That's the playthrough I'm on now and working towards 100%ing.

I didn't pick up the game until this fall, so I had the benefit of all the patches and tuning too.
Man, I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have. Even outside of the game, the Edgerunners show on Netflix is pretty outstanding, and the game has Easter eggs linked to the show, if you know what you're looking for. The lore is really what does it for me. A degree comes from like the 80s and early 90s, but they built on top of it so much, you could spend weeks learning about it on its own.

It's kinda scary in some ways, bc a lot of the things going on 51 years into the future actually seem feasible, and some of those situations may be playing out right before our eyes and we don't really even know it. Can definitely see a day when mega corporations have their own SWAT teams or military units, if they don't already and I'm just ignorant. It's also kinda a well known thing that they're walking the path towards cyberware, which scares the absolute shit out of me. The good news is, whatever 2077 irl turns out to be, odds are I will be dead by then. But science fiction has a funny way of actually happening to a degree, and a world like that would be a spectacle, and a horror.
 
Man, I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have. Even outside of the game, the Edgerunners show on Netflix is pretty outstanding, and the game has Easter eggs linked to the show, if you know what you're looking for. The lore is really what does it for me. A degree comes from like the 80s and early 90s, but they built on top of it so much, you could spend weeks learning about it on its own.

It's kinda scary in some ways, bc a lot of the things going on 51 years into the future actually seem feasible, and some of those situations may be playing out right before our eyes and we don't really even know it. Can definitely see a day when mega corporations have their own SWAT teams or military units, if they don't already and I'm just ignorant. It's also kinda a well known thing that they're walking the path towards cyberware, which scares the absolute shit out of me. The good news is, whatever 2077 irl turns out to be, odds are I will be dead by then. But science fiction has a funny way of actually happening to a degree, and a world like that would be a spectacle, and a horror.
Yeah, kind of like idiocracy it's getting a bit scary out there as the modern world races towards some of this stuff.

Corpo military shit isn't that new. But a high tech version of the Dutch East India Company run by Amazon could colonize and brutalize even harder.
 
Man, I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have. Even outside of the game, the Edgerunners show on Netflix is pretty outstanding, and the game has Easter eggs linked to the show, if you know what you're looking for. The lore is really what does it for me. A degree comes from like the 80s and early 90s, but they built on top of it so much, you could spend weeks learning about it on its own.

It's kinda scary in some ways, bc a lot of the things going on 51 years into the future actually seem feasible, and some of those situations may be playing out right before our eyes and we don't really even know it. Can definitely see a day when mega corporations have their own SWAT teams or military units, if they don't already and I'm just ignorant. It's also kinda a well known thing that they're walking the path towards cyberware, which scares the absolute shit out of me. The good news is, whatever 2077 irl turns out to be, odds are I will be dead by then. But science fiction has a funny way of actually happening to a degree, and a world like that would be a spectacle, and a horror.
I've been holding off on watching the anime until I replay the game. Basically I want to watch the show then play the game right after. Apparently they are doing season 2 so might even watch for that to come out and just watch both.
 
I've been holding off on watching the anime until I replay the game. Basically I want to watch the show then play the game right after. Apparently they are doing season 2 so might even watch for that to come out and just watch both.
That show is so good, was a nice surprise. It was what got me to finally get around playing the game. I can't give anything away, but intrigued that they're proceeding with another season. The Easter eggs in the game become pretty noticeable and important to a degree, once you can put it all together
 
That show is so good, was a nice surprise. It was what got me to finally get around playing the game. I can't give anything away, but intrigued that they're proceeding with another season. The Easter eggs in the game become pretty noticeable and important to a degree, once you can put it all together
I think what I read is season 2 is a completely new story. So same world but new characters and story.
 
I think what I read is season 2 is a completely new story. So same world but new characters and story.
It really has to be a new story. But, like with the Dark Horse comics with stories from the Cyberpunk Universe, there are literally unlimited possibilities. You really don't need known characters to craft amazing stories. Idk if you enjoy comics or not, but, if so, I can't recommend those comics enough, they're great, and cover many different sections of that universe. Street kids, corpos, Trauma team, etc..
 
I've been holding off on watching the anime until I replay the game. Basically I want to watch the show then play the game right after. Apparently they are doing season 2 so might even watch for that to come out and just watch both.

That show is so good, was a nice surprise. It was what got me to finally get around playing the game. I can't give anything away, but intrigued that they're proceeding with another season. The Easter eggs in the game become pretty noticeable and important to a degree, once you can put it all together
Yeah, the anime is amazing, can't wait for the follow up. Along with the deep lore from the table top, and some great YT channels that cover it, it brings the world alive even more.

CDPR are also working with the studio that made Mr Robot to make a live adaptation. Not much is known about, just that it takes place in Night City and will be its own story.

There's also a great CP audiobook that takes place in Night City called No Coincidence, set around 2077. It's about a rag tag crew that does a big heist, that spirals into some nice twists. It's narrated by the voice actress of V. You can see a sample here, I really enjoyed it.

This is my fav Cyberpunk lore YT channel. He has a great voice, and nice/relevant in-game visuals to match the content. Whenever one of his vids pops into my YT feed, it makes me want to jump in again.

I love all the corpo shenanigans, but the Blackwall and AI brewing a big invasion... it's my fav subject in the lore, legit Lovecraftian-ish terrifying.
 
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Yeah, the anime is amazing, can't wait for the follow up. Along with the deep lore from the table top, and some great YT channels that cover it, it brings the world alive even more.

CDPR are also working with the studio that made Mr Robot to make a live adaptation. Not much is known about, just that it takes place in Night City and will be its own story.

There's also a great CP audiobook that takes place in Night City called No Coincidence, set around 2077. It's about a rag tag crew that does a big heist, that spirals into some nice twists. It's narrated by the voice actress of V. You can see a sample here, I really enjoyed it.

This is my fav Cyberpunk lore YT channel. He has a great voice, and nice/relevant in-game visuals to match the content. Whenever one of his vids pops into my YT feed, it makes me want to jump in again.

I love all the corpo shenanigans, but the Blackwall and AI brewing a big invasion... it's my fav subject in the lore, legit Lovecraftian-ish terrifying.

Dude...

I knew nothing about a possible live action adaptation, but holy shit, I'm already amped for that. I may even check out that audio book. I'm willing to take on anything dealing with that universe, I just find the entire lore interesting. They have a companion book of sorts for the game, it fills in the gaps between the original tabletop game and 2077, they just created so much detailed history and lore. I'd actually read all of the shards you find in the video game, I just found myself impressed with how much effort they put into filling out the lore. They had to put a ton of time into that aspect of the game alone.

I watch those same YouTube vids. Some of them get pretty in depth, hours long. Those dudes who make them also put in a ton of time and effort, they've kinda brought it all together for me several times, insight into situations that are related but I'd missed, things like that.

The way it was handled, so much time filled in, it's like getting the Marvel Comics universe dropped on your head, but instead of decades worth over time, decades worth, all at once.
 
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