Octagon v Pit?

[blaseblase]

Karate Combat has an interesting set up. Which would be better for mma?

Pros for the pit would be higher level of visiblity and no more fence grabs. The downside is it would make getting takedowns much easier (if you consider that a downside). Were mma to transition to a pit I'd think the walls would need to be modified to be at a 90 degree angle instead of 45.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Pit looks ridiculous -- like miniature dudes fighting in a Baking Pan.

No place to have a dignified contest of violence.

 

[Contempt]

I hear @fingercuffs is building a pit in her back yard.

 

[blaseblase]

Pit looks ridiculous -- like miniature dudes fighting in a Baking Pan.

No place to have a dignified contest of violence.

Yeah, rats in a cage is so much better.

 

[wufabufa]

YAMMA Pit Fighting circa 2006......one of the worst events to ever take place. If you know, you know.

I still haven't gotten my t-shirt.

 

[davidlemonparty]

It'd be a huge advantage for students of the pitfighting discipline such as Abbott and Ferrozzo

 

[Contempt]

YAMMA Pit Fighting circa 2006......one of the worst events to ever take place. If you know, you know.

I still haven't gotten my t-shirt.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Yeah, rats in a cage is so much better.

Cage is symbolic: locked in the cage with your enemy, where violence determines your fate -- like "no-escape" feeling that you must survive.

Yamasaki bless...




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[JBJ was here]

Pros for the pit would be higher level of visiblity and no more fence grabs.

The current fences aren't major impediments to visibility. As for fence grabs, why should fighters be allowed to use the fence to obtain, maintain, or improve a position in every possible way except for grabbing it? Either let fighters use the fence for positional advantage or don't let them do so.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Pit looks ridiculous -- like miniature dudes fighting in a Baking Pan.

No place to have a dignified contest of violence.

Enjoyed post.

 

[blaseblase]

The current fences aren't major impediments to visibility.

To the people at the arena it is.

As for fence grabs, why should fighters be allowed to use the fence to obtain, maintain, or improve a position in every possible way except for grabbing it? Either let fighters use the fence for positional advantage or don't let them do so.

How about just remove the silliness of clinging for dear life to a fence or alternatively using it to hold someone there? It doesn't apply to a real life fighting situation. If you're going to add crap like that might as well legalize nut shots.

The Octagon is an arbitrary decision that was made for the first event that has been clung to out of habit. Much like the glove situation never being improved or Face the Pain lasting for decades after Nu Metal was popular.

 

[blaseblase]

It'd be a huge advantage for students of the pitfighting discipline such as Abbott and Ferrozzo

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What in the holy hell is trapfighting?

 

[Paolo Delutis]

What in the holy hell is trapfighting?

Whatever it is , its going down...


Meet me in the trap! Its going down!!

 

[blaseblase]

Whatever it is , its going down...


Meet me in the trap! Its going down!!

My god, its a real thing:

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The guy who came up with it is legally blind though so no wonder it didn't catch on.

 

[TR1]

I hate cage humping more than LnP these days.

 

[Cobra 03]

Lets see, the UFC octagon in these pictures is in a big stadium with thousands of seats in it, and the Pit has no seats around it. Win to the octagon!

 

[gentel]

Lets see, the UFC octagon in these pictures is in a big stadium with thousands of seats in it, and the Pit has no seats around it. Win to the octagon!

This is probably the real answer, the pit won't be as visible to large live audiences

That said, CJI did great things with the pit, with their very first tournament already being the greatest BJJ tournament of all time. I wouldn't be against a smaller org doing pit MMA as well

 

[Bobby Boulders]

What in the holy hell is trapfighting?

Going off of memory, but it showed up when Varelans did, which was around UFC 6, I believe, and was essentially a style that took everything that had worked in MMA up to that point and threw out the rest. So a combo of striking, grappling and wrestling, which essentially became the basis for modern MMA

 

[Pittie Petey]

I like Karate Combat, its a fun promotion

 

[Thesnake101]

If you want to see grappling become unstoppable then by all means the pit is the way to go