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Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 222 55.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 113 28.4%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 7.0%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.5%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 17 4.3%

  • Total voters
    398
I don't think any of this is really new or relevant.

Can we all just agree that Trump won '16 fair and square and release the names of Epstein's clients?
Yeah, Trump won the election, no doubt. Was their Russian collusion? Fuck yeah, but he still won. Now let's get down to kid-fuckers.
 
So many people that screamed "groomer" for years are running interference for a President that is clearly guilty of some shit. Trump was Epstein's best friend for over a decade. They ran together. What in the actual fuck, guys?

I'm stunned the right keeps pulling this shit because of a man like Trump. This is a huge story, and it was all self-inflicted because of the hubris of a man that thought he could (he may still be able to) squirrel his way out of it.

How low are you going to go, fellas? This is disgusting shit.
 
Bunch of bullshit.

The claim was that Russia tried to INFLUENCE the 2016 election through the DNC hack and social media bot farms. There was never any real allegations that Russia directly hacked election infrastructure and changed votes. They are attributing a claim to Obama that, from what I can recall, he never had (which is that Russia hacked voting machines and changed votes) and then releasing document that says a thing that Obama never said happen -- in fact, didn't happen.

And of course the rubes eat it up. Its insane how easy it is to manipulate idiots.
 
Trumps affinity for Russia was sus as hell. He did a lot of business with Russia, and he literally colluded with Russia on live TV--asking them to hack Hillary's email. Heck people close to his campaign met with Russian agents.

It warranted an investigation.

Just because an investigation didn't turn up damning evidence it doesn't mean they KNEW that going in. That's why it's called AN INVESTIGATION!

There are basically two theories on the matter: Russia was blackmailing Trump.. OR Trump actually does admire and support Putin's dictatorship.

The later is actually worse for Trump, too bad MAGA is too blind to see it.

People close to his campaign also met with a real Russian (fake agent) that was working for Fusion GPS. a lot of the second-hand dossier info actually originated with FGPS execs.

Oddly enough it apparently isn't illegal to pay a foreign spy to create a dossier of fake intel that you yourself created to sway an election. Hey, but foreign interference something, something, blah, blah....
 
Bunch of bullshit.

The claim was that Russia tried to INFLUENCE the 2016 election through the DNC hack and social media bot farms. There was never any real allegations that Russia directly hacked election infrastructure and changed votes. They are attributing a claim to Obama that, from what I can recall, he never had (which is that Russia hacked voting machines and changed votes) and then releasing document that says a thing that Obama never said happen -- in fact, didn't happen.

And of course the rubes eat it up. Its insane how easy it is to manipulate idiots.

I do remember a very small story about hacking voting machines before the election, but it was squashed fairly quickly and everyone was told that no votes were hacked.
 
Bunch of bullshit.

The claim was that Russia tried to INFLUENCE the 2016 election through the DNC hack and social media bot farms. There was never any real allegations that Russia directly hacked election infrastructure and changed votes. They are attributing a claim to Obama that, from what I can recall, he never had (which is that Russia hacked voting machines and changed votes) and then releasing document that says a thing that Obama never said happen -- in fact, didn't happen.

And of course the rubes eat it up. Its insane how easy it is to manipulate idiots.
And by the way the claim that Russia hacked the DNC and released those emails is such bullshit. It was old malware from Ukraine that used a Russian IP. CrowdStrike said it was Russia and then got a fat government contract afterwards. The released report was bullshit, there were pure technical reports released white papers that showed it wasn't Russia that hacked the DNC. Any nation state that hacks and usually they have APT names like "Cozy bear" which is probably the best besides USA won't be using a IP from their own country lol.
 
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Bunch of bullshit.

The claim was that Russia tried to INFLUENCE the 2016 election through the DNC hack and social media bot farms. There was never any real allegations that Russia directly hacked election infrastructure and changed votes. They are attributing a claim to Obama that, from what I can recall, he never had (which is that Russia hacked voting machines and changed votes) and then releasing document that says a thing that Obama never said happen -- in fact, didn't happen.

And of course the rubes eat it up. Its insane how easy it is to manipulate idiots.
Yup.
 
yeah blackmail is so complicated.

You are incoherent as usual.

So the Epstein hoax as Trump is now calling it was this big mossad lead kid sex traffic ring to blackmail the most powerful people in the world.

but we know Trump isn’t implicated. Because if he was, Epstein could have threatened him with……blackmail. And either gotten the president to call off the investigation that was out in the open after the Miami herald…..OR, he could have gotten the president of the US to preemptively pardon a suspected global sex trafficker of minors. And if he didn’t, information would be released……that further proves Epstein was guilty.

And of course it’s unfortunate that this big global criminal ring was doomed because they left out Epstein’s old buddy, who took the whole thing down. And that’s also why Epstein Epsteined himself.
Yikes, what an absolute mess of a post trying to understand what blackmail means. You don't blackmail someone by threatening them with blackmail, blackmail is the term for the threat to expose incriminating information about them.

Your conspiracy theory can only be one of two things; either the FBI did find incriminating information on Trump when they raided Epstein's homes, and nobody at the FBI, nobody at the SDNY prosecutor's office who also hate Trump, the court, and nobody in Biden's DOJ ever said a word or leaked any of it to the media, or they didn't find anything because somehow Epstein, Maxwell, and anybody else involved were all able to hide the information about Trump, but not the incrimination information about themselves, and again just went down in flames without ever leaking any of it to the FBI or even the media.

It's at least entertaining watching you clowns twist around in circles trying to avoid answering why so many people who hate Trump could have had evidence that he was a child molester, and for some reason decided to not say a word about it and instead focus all of their efforts on novel legal theories about paperwork filings and collateral values for long paid off construction loans from 15 years earlier.
 
I'm not sure, but I haven't seen any of the mods blindly supporting politicians, ESPECIALLY in light of recent events. Even your most staunch conservative mods can see through the bullshit.
If we could just arrest all the presidents living I think that could go a long way towards starting to heal the country again.
 
Your mom being fat for sure. That’s my answer to any whatabout. Try another one. Same answer

Well, look who it is, the forum's biggest goldfish brained hypocrite - ditzymma79

I like how your reply above, complaining about "whataboutism", followed a post you made just 2 pages beforehand, entering a thread about Trump and Epstein with this banger:

Well I heard that Obama former barbers roommate said he way gay

Now re-read both of your posts and this time listen real closely for the irony.
 


Lets look at the news articles that the NY Post references here:

U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack​


U.S. intelligence officials now believe with "a high level of confidence" that Russian President Vladimir Putin became personally involved in the covert Russian campaign to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

The "election hack" that this article is referring to is the 2016 DNC hack. Not any attempts by Russia to hack elections infrastructure (i.e. voting machines)

Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House​


The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton's chances.

Again, referring to the DNC email hack in 2016. Not any attempts to hack voting machines.

Russian Hackers Acted to Aid Trump in Election, U.S. Says​


They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

In the months before the election, it was largely documents from Democratic Party systems that were leaked to the public. Intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians gave the Democrats’ documents to WikiLeaks.

Oh look. There is a theme emerging here. Another article that is referring to the DNC hack and not hacking voting machines.

This country is full of morons and the response to shit like this is proof.
 
So literally all you have to a guy decimating everything you had to say is a Cormier meme?
@AnGrYcRoW respectfully provided you sources. You embarrassed yourself yet again.
It's his own posts for something he claimed he "never believed" from 5 years after the accusations already fell apart, you complete idiot. You having trouble reading again?<lol>
 
I'm no expert.... my guess would be as good as yours. 1.5 - 2 years seems to be the run time for outrageous abuses of power to be examined.

Okay well my guess is nothing will ever come of it, because it's a load of bullshit, which is obviously being used by a desperate administration in an attempt to distract people from the growing Epstein scandal, and to feed red meat to his now-fractured base.

Two years seems like quite a long time, though! Do you think they have to pore over tens of thousands of hours of videos and documents? :)
 
I provided sources , I didn't stake a position and it was a topic worth discussing no ?

So nice try I guess

Care to address part 2 of my post or are just going to take the L and run along
Yes, I'd like you to make a list. "Sexual predator" implies criminal behavior, so let's have your list and your explanation for why he wasn't prosecuted for any of this criminal behavior.

You already took a hard L claiming you didn't believe something that you were still posting "this is an important discussion" 5 years after it was debunked, and the other half of your post was vague accusations of crimes with no evidence or any explanation for why he wouldn't have been charged for it.
 
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