Crime Oakland 7-11 security guard shot dead, another robbed

[Hog-train]

If you faced 30+ years in jail, would you do it?

That doesn't work. Most criminals don't think they're gonna get caught. Just have to actually police it on a street level.

 

[Belaya Smert]

You should do some research on what started the gun restrictions in California.
One group started exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and another group (3 letters) worked with Reagan to pass the Mulford act.
Hint.: that 3 letter org isn’t a government 3 letter org, it’s some sort of national rifle association.

*yeah I know the Black Panthers

Gun control has always has been about limiting certain groups from owning arms.

 

[Seano]

May be time for martial law in parts of this country. Seriously, what other solution is there?

 

[HeLLMuTT]

Is it as bad in Oakland area compared to San Fran?

Oakland crime is much more violent, more gang problems. San Francisco has more theft, vandalism and homeless/drug abuse issues. This stuff causes lots of problems for both cities. I work in SF mostly and see it first hand. We have fazed out doing any jobs in Oakland because it's simply not worth the risk. We have long work days, start early and always finish later in the evenings/nights. Add to that that we'll have a million dollars worth of audio/video/lighting equipment in a big box truck most of the time.

Things are fine in Fremont

I agree Fremont is very mellow. You can go from Fremont south thru Milpitas into San Jose then east to Cupertino the up to Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Menlo and Palo Alto areas. San Jose is probably the least mellow being the biggest city in the bay area but it's like a different world compared to SF and the Oakland east bay.

 

[pinger]

Double

 

[oldshadow]

Why keep the trash alive at the expense of tax payers?

I'm down for that but the minimum should be life with no parole.

 

[Jesus X]

Lol at a 7-11 needing security even my City isn't that ghetto.

 

[Jesus X]

If you ain't an armed security guard then you are fvcked

The only armed security we had around here is at the casinos in L.A county and the I.E. the irony is that used to be considered the more dangerous job but I think I rather do that than be an unarmed security nowadays.

 

[Scerpi]

I knew this was gonna happen when gas stations began hiring security guards

One was executed, another one robbed all within 24 hours in oakland

You knew this would happen? Why? Because the DA’s gave up prosecuting looters of these stores?

Meanwhile, the biggest mall in San Fran is ghost town after all the business fled

There’s videos daily coming out of Cali of people helping themselves to these stores unabated

Is that how you knew?

 

[oldshadow]

That doesn't work. Most criminals don't think they're gonna get caught. Just have to actually police it on a street level.

If you make the time for using a weapon in a robbery 20 years or more mandatory then they may thing think before they bring a weapon. If not they they will spend enough time away from society they will be too old to take up crime again. If they do the next time it's life with no parole.

 

[Scerpi]

You should do some research on what started the gun restrictions in California.
One group started exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and another group (3 letters) worked with Reagan to pass the Mulford act.
Hint.: that 3 letter org isn’t a government 3 letter org, it’s some sort of national rifle association.

Oh fuck off. Reagan was Governer 55+ fucking years ago.

Lol… Democrats have been in control of that state ever since.

They fucked up California all on their own

 

[Osculater]

The only armed security we had around here is at the casinos in L.A county and the I.E. the irony is that used to be considered the more dangerous job but I think I rather do that than be an unarmed security nowadays.

I rather have the option to shoot back with my main gun and back up gun

 

[Jesus X]

I rather have the option to shoot back with my main gun and back up gun

Yeah that's what I said. being armed security is safer nowadays especially in liberal cities these unarmed securities are just a target now and a liability.

 

[Osculater]

Yeah that's what I said. being armed security is safer nowadays especially in liberal cities these unarmed securities are just a target now and a liability.

Fo sho!

 

[Jesus X]

Oh fuck off. Reagan was Governer 55+ fucking years ago.

Lol… Democrats have been in control of that state ever since.

They fucked up California all on their own

Newsom and his crony xavier becerra also interfered with judge roger benitez everytime he tried to give us our gun rights back

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/22/benitez-duncan/

 

[Belaya Smert]

Oh fuck off. Reagan was Governer 55+ fucking years ago.

Lol… Democrats have been in control of that state ever since.

They fucked up California all on their own

Everyone knows California had no gun restrictions prior to 1967. And hasn’t adopted any new ones since 1967. Everyone needs to do some research apparently.

 

[jefferz]

Oh fuck off. Reagan was Governer 55+ fucking years ago.

Lol… Democrats have been in control of that state ever since.

They fucked up California all on their own

Where did it start? We can't have black people getting all uppity now, can we.
Ol' Ronnie, the Republican Party poster boy, worked with the NRA to take away Second Amendment rights just to suppress a race of people because they were exercising their Constitutional rights.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Why keep the trash alive at the expense of tax payers?

I'm down for that but the minimum should be life with no parole.

The death penalty is more expensive than LWOP.

 

[oldshadow]

The death penalty is more expensive than LWOP.

Personally I don't care about the about the expense.

 

[650lb Sumo]

That doesn't work. Most criminals don't think they're gonna get caught. Just have to actually police it on a street level.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

1. The certainty of being caught is a vastly more powerful deterrent than the punishment. Research shows clearly that the chance of being caught is a vastly more effective deterrent than even draconian punishment.

2. Sending an individual convicted of a crime to prison isn’t a very effective way to deter crime. Prisons are good for punishing criminals and keeping them off the street, but prison sentences (particularly long sentences) are unlikely to deter future crime. Prisons actually may have the opposite effect: Inmates learn more effective crime strategies from each other, and time spent in prison may desensitize many to the threat of future imprisonment. See “Understanding the Relationship Between Sentencing and Deterrence” for additional discussion on prison as an ineffective deterrent.

3. Police deter crime by increasing the perception that criminals will be caught and punished. The police deter crime when they do things that strengthen a criminal’s perception of the certainty of being caught. Strategies that use the police as “sentinels,” such as hot spots policing, are particularly effective. A criminal’s behavior is more likely to be influenced by seeing a police officer with handcuffs and a radio than by a new law increasing penalties.

4. Increasing the severity of punishment does little to deter crime. Laws and policies designed to deter crime by focusing mainly on increasing the severity of punishment are ineffective partly because criminals know little about the sanctions for specific crimes. More severe punishments do not “chasten” individuals convicted of crimes, and prisons may exacerbate recidivism.

5. There is no proof that the death penalty deters criminals. According to the National Academy of Sciences, “Research on the deterrent effect of capital punishment is uninformative about whether capital punishment increases, decreases, or has no effect on homicide rates.”