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Not Showtime yet: Report emBARRgoed (SCO Thread v. 30)

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After hearing multiple experts point out you can be guilty of obstruction of justice even if not charged for the underlying crime (see Martha Stewart), I can safely conclude you got your law degree from a Cracker Jack box.
This is true. Two kids at my highschool got in a shootout over a hat and one killed the other. He then went to his cousin and his cousin hid the gun. The guy who killed the other kid got off on self defense, but the cousin got charged and convicted of obstruction of justice.
 
True but you can’t convict someone of obstruction, for example, if there was no crime to obstruct against. o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

You and all the libs are now left grasping at straws here.

It's over, Johnny.
What Straws am I grasping at, i already posted what you just stated two pages back, you dork. I even added "no collusion (except by Crooked Hilary and the dems!) to the post.

Stop making yourself look stupid.
 
OBSTRUCTION OF INJUSTICE!

HOW DARE TRUMP PREVENT THE DEMOCRATS FROM HAVING HILLARY WIN IN 2016!! <Moves><Moves><Moves><Moves><Moves>
That was James Comey's letter being released 11 days before the election that gave the WH to Trump.
 
Just want to re-visit the statement :

"The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’

This is pretty much exactly what I said Mueller would put in the report. Clearly they had nothing, but I knew they’d put in vague language at least hinting that Trump wasn’t completely innocent. No way, after all this, they wouldn’t. Hillary’s supporters will hang on to that quote like its 100% proof though.

This really is the biggest scandal in American political history. Everything from wiretapping a presidential candidate to the Russia investigation as revenge for Hillary losing. Good people like Kavanaugh being subjected to the dirtiest smear tactics. What a real embarrassment.
 
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lol this gif is from here in Raleigh.
 
I believe the key is the use of the word "knowingly". I think Honorable Mueller couldn't tell if there was collusion beyond a reasonable doubt or if Trump and associates were just too damn stupid and were unknowing foreign agents. This is probably why no charges were filed. Hard to distinguish if they were corrupt or stupid.
 
Naw you are just too dumb to understand what you read.

The legal threshold to convict is very high. Particularly when a Prosecutor cannot compel the POTUS to answer questions or indict him.

IS anyone dumb enough to think Al Capone did not commit mob crimes? NO. Well maybe some of the dumbest people in this thread would say so. But still they could not convict him, despite lots of evidence. They had to get him for tax crimes. That does not mean it was PROVEN he did not do mob crimes because they could not prosecute and convict him.

I want the dumbest of you to read that last paragraph 5 times just so you understand what point it is making and that point is just because they cannot prosecute or convict you does not mean you are innocent.

And that is clearly what Mueller (not Barr) says. And until we see how close Mueller got to thinking he had enough to indict and pursue this argument will remain partisan circle jerks.



These tears are amazing.
 
This is true. Two kids at my highschool got in a shootout over a hat and one killed the other. He then went to his cousin and his cousin hid the gun. The guy who killed the other kid got off on self defense, but the cousin got charged and convicted of obstruction of justice.


Sherdog libs - Jim Comey said Drumpf robbed a bank and killed a guy and then Drumpf fired him! That’s obstruction of justice!

Sane person - The bank wasn’t robbed and no one was killed...

Sherdog libs - it doesn’t matter! He obstructed the investigation! Impeach 45!

{<huh}
 
I believe the key is the use of the word "knowingly". I think Honorable Mueller couldn't tell if there was collusion beyond a reasonable doubt or if Trump and associates were just too damn stupid and were unknowing foreign agents. This is probably why no charges were filed. Hard to distinguish if they were corrupt or stupid.
Whatever helps you sleep
 
This doesn't make sense to me.



Grasping at straws? I'm correcting your error.

MY ERROR?

The AG said that, because you can’t exonerate someone who was not convicted of a crime. That said the usage of exoneration is wrong in both cases which also makes you wrong as the parroter of wrong information. <LikeReally5><LikeReally5><LikeReally5>

Enough of this shit. If you want to cling to your "Muh Collusion....Trump Guilty...waaaah..waaah!", have at it.

I'm done talking to you.
 
It did? You have a source for that?
The polls that show Hillary's numbers dipping after the release of the Comey letter, the fact that about 70% of the voters who made up their minds in the last 2 weeks before the election voted Trump.
 
The polls that show Hillary's numbers dipping after the release of the Comey letter, the fact that about 70% of the voters who made up their minds in the last 2 weeks before the election voted Trump.

This checks out.
 
MY ERROR?

The AG said that, because you can’t exonerate someone who was not convicted of a crime. That said the usage of exoneration is wrong in both cases which also makes you wrong as the parroter of wrong information...

I corrected your use of the word exoneration. You claimed it only applies when someone has been convicted of a crime. It does not, as a real dictionary says, so yes it was your error. Sorry that upsets you so much.
 
"Attorney General William Barr said in a letter to Congress summarizing Mueller's report. The special counsel "does not exonerate" Trump of obstructing justice, Barr said, and his report "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."…"

Maybe the fat lady hasn't sung yet. I'd like to see Trump out of office as soon as possible, because I think he's mentally and morally unfit for the job. If it takes more waiting to see if he will be found to have obstructed justice, I'm fine with that. If no proof is found, it would be a shame for the country, especially if he's re-elected.
 
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