Not Showtime yet: Report emBARRgoed (SCO Thread v. 30)

[Cake4Breakfast]

The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

"If I were Trump,I wouldnt be celebrating. A report from a team of fed prosecutors there was evidence a sitting President obstructed justice? Is our bar so low that this is what we want from a Pres? The exoneration here is from Barr (Trump's guy), not Mueller. Need to see Report." Neal Katyal

"Whatever happens this day or the next, or in this investigation or the next or the one after that, we should always remember this: We should expect far more from a president than merely that he not be a provably a criminal beyond a reasonable doubt." George "Mr. Kellyanne" Conway

 

[SurferH2O]

Why laugh at Mueller? If you think you have the spoiler that somehow Mueller doesn't, you might want to really pause there a minute and consider.

Did you really miss the point?

Obstruction of Justice on what crime?

 

[JamesRussler]

Sure, it happens from time to time. They will bounce back, the left will rise again.

Maybe. I dunno if that’s a sure thing though. Parties do die. There is such a thing as “going the way of the Whig.” If Republicans succeed in reversing immigration trends, the Democratic Party is forever lost.

 

[grizzard2bid]

The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

"If I were Trump,I wouldnt be celebrating. A report from a team of fed prosecutors there was evidence a sitting President obstructed justice? Is our bar so low that this is what we want from a Pres? The exoneration here is from Barr (Trump's guy), not Mueller. Need to see Report." Neal Katyal

"Whatever happens this day or the next, or in this investigation or the next or the one after that, we should always remember this: We should expect far more from a president than merely that he not be a provably a criminal beyond a reasonable doubt." George "Mr. Kellyanne" Conway

Even when a jury trial ACQUITS you, it does not EXONERATE you. It's standard legal language, ffs.
Ya'll can't be grasping at straws.

 

[bobgeese]

We still need to wait for the actual facts to come out. Barr has released no actual information, not even one full sentence from The Mueller Report.


They didn't even interview the President himself. It's ludicrous. How can you possibly hope to get to his state of mind, and intent, if you can't even speak to the man?

This is Theory of the Unitary Executive madness.

 

[BarryDillon]

I really think it's important to understand what led mueller NOT to interview the president...but after finding out, harping on it is pointless, Mueller is a model for investigation like this, he's probably nowhere near perfect, but it's important people see him as impartial for the future so a future investigation isn't corroded as Trump tried desperately to do here. Mueller did as good as job as anyone and has the respect of most people so if he didn't interview the president, tough shit and he probably had a good reason whether some people like it or not.

Mueller's integrity is not what I'm questioning here. It's the decision making. He stood down when it was time to fight hard. He repeatedly requested an interview with the President, the President's lawyers said no, and he didn't issue the subpoena. It was an absolute must, and he didn't do it, and/or he complied with a stand down order from Barr.

Either option is unacceptable. The facts must be allowed to come out, Mueller and Barr absolutely must testify before congress. Both houses. The entire report and underlying information needs to be immediately given to congress.

The American people clearly have a compelling interest to get the actual facts here.

Having said that, I'll impugn the integrity of William Barr all day long.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Even when a jury trial ACQUITS you, it does not EXONARATE you. It's standard legal language, ffs.
Ya'll can't be grasping at straws.

You think Mueller put that in there to reach the 1,000 word minimum from his English teacher or what?

 

[JamesRussler]

I do not understand what a soy filled bitch is, but assume it to be something rather pleasant....and probably ghey. But I will accept my bitchery if they simply don't put up some massive fight to keep the report from coming out. I don't really need it to say anything in particular.

Hey, at least you’re here facing the storm. You and Lowman are pretty much the only people the Left owning this one. The rest of ‘em are hiding away until the next news cycle.

 

[glenwo2]

RIP Rip

Just spoke with Rip on discord.

He's fine with not coming back.

Though I did give him the link to that hilarious vid, though. lol

Got a kick out of it.

 

[bobgeese]

The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

"If I were Trump,I wouldnt be celebrating. A report from a team of fed prosecutors there was evidence a sitting President obstructed justice? Is our bar so low that this is what we want from a Pres? The exoneration here is from Barr (Trump's guy), not Mueller. Need to see Report." Neal Katyal

"Whatever happens this day or the next, or in this investigation or the next or the one after that, we should always remember this: We should expect far more from a president than merely that he not be a provably a criminal beyond a reasonable doubt." George "Mr. Kellyanne" Conway

 

[BarryDillon]

Terrific argument as always, Bobby.

 

[S Class]

 

[LMP]

Maybe. I dunno if that’s a sure thing though. Parties do die. There is such a thing as “going the way of the Whig.” If Republicans succeed in reversing immigration trends, the Democratic Party is forever lost.

Sure political parties come and go, but we are talking about ideology. Socialist ideas arent going any where.

 

[bobgeese]

The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

"If I were Trump,I wouldnt be celebrating. A report from a team of fed prosecutors there was evidence a sitting President obstructed justice? Is our bar so low that this is what we want from a Pres? The exoneration here is from Barr (Trump's guy), not Mueller. Need to see Report." Neal Katyal

"Whatever happens this day or the next, or in this investigation or the next or the one after that, we should always remember this: We should expect far more from a president than merely that he not be a provably a criminal beyond a reasonable doubt." George "Mr. Kellyanne" Conway

 

[glenwo2]

Even when a jury trial ACQUITS you, it does not EXONARATE you. It's standard legal language, ffs.
Ya'll can't be grasping at straws.

Did you notice him quoting Mr. KellyAnne Conway? LOL!

He's quoting worthless sources whose opinions carry about as much weight as we do.

 

[grizzard2bid]

This thread is a happy place now.

 

[BarryDillon]

Hey, at least you’re here facing the storm. You and Lowman are pretty much the only people the Left owning this one. The rest of ‘em are hiding away until the next news cycle.

 

[Ornife]

Just spoke with Rip on discord.

He's fine with not coming back.

Though I did give him the link to that hilarious vid, though. lol

Got a kick out of it.

Hopefully he decides to return.

 

[SRN]

Just spoke with Rip on discord.

He's fine with not coming back.

Though I did give him the link to that hilarious vid, though. lol

Got a kick out of it.

I always liked Rip even though he would probably consider me possessed or some shit. lol Tell him he'll be missed in the WR and S&C.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Bob, you know you will not go to the mat with me about anything, so don't quote me unless you are actually willing to have a conversation...but for starters, you mean the guy who Trump hired as AG because he was publicly critical of the Mueller investigation and sent an unsolicited memo to Rosenstein about how RR's approach to obstruction of justice was "fatally misconceived" and "asinine" concluded that Trump didn't obstruct justice? I mean who could have seen that coming? I was shocked Bob, shocked!