Not Just a Cohencidence (Mueller/Investigation Thread v.20)

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So there is nothing a Republican candidate would do that would be a deal breaker in your eyes?

That's a bit partisan even for partisan politics.
Radio here has been broadcasting trumpers essentally saying that today, it's fascinating how they have abandoned any objectivity in favour of stickin it to the libs, I don't think a piss tape or tape of a rape would budge them
 
I am going to address the suicide hotline to add more lines before 2020, you guys are going to need help
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Sorry, my bad.

I've never personally seen a judge reject a plea of guilty to the originally charged crimes, but I've seen a judge reject a plea deal for reduced crimes (lesser included charges). But yes, a judge SHOULD be aware of the underlying facts and circumstances of the crimes/charges; I'd be of the opinion that most judges only have a cursory understanding in most minor cases; certainly federal judges will be acutely aware in major cases like Manafort).

Most jurisdictions allow a judge to have discretion to reject a plea deal agreed to by the prosecution and defense, but I believe there's a minority of jurisdictions that require a judge to accept an agreed plea (federal judges are not so required).

Also, in most jurisdictions, a judge can accept the plea but not accept the agreed upon sentence. Usually, the judge retains the sole discretion (absent any statutory reqs) to sentence in any way he/she chooses.
The judge actually just rejected the plea deal for the two guys found responsible for that ghost ship warehouse fire in Oakland where a bunch of people died. Kinda surprised... judge said he hadn’t shown sufficient remorse
 
Gotta feel sorry for melania as a lot of this is about how trump cheated on her multiple times.

Bet she can't wait for him to drop dead so she can run off with money and their ugly kid.
 
Also - and I'm really not being a dick here - but has anyone noticed that Sarah Huckabee Sanders looks like she's bloating with every successive lie she has to say on behalf of her owner? Stress is an absolute bitch
 
Radio here has been broadcasting trumpers essentally saying that today, it's fascinating how they have abandoned any objectivity in favour of stickin it to the libs, I don't think a piss tape or tape of a rape would budge them

It would chub them up, bigly.
 
Gotta feel sorry for melania as a lot of this is about how trump cheated on her multiple times.

Bet she can't wait for him to drop dead so she can run off with money and their ugly kid.

She chose that life.
 
The judge actually just rejected the plea deal for the two guys found responsible for that ghost ship warehouse fire in Oakland where a bunch of people died. Kinda surprised... judge said he hadn’t shown sufficient remorse

Not familiar with that specific case, but yeah, it can and does happen. Rare. But it happens. It's an inherent risk that most defendants aren't aware of (attorneys should always counsel of the possibility). Usually only happens in more serious cases.
 
Nothing will happen to Trump

You can try your best, he didn’t do anything illegal
Well, if it’s campaign finances uses to influence election, he’s toast.

My guess is it’s personal money and all it does is make him look like a liar. It won’t cost him the White House until the election, honestly. But Cohen doing this certainly shows this isn’t a witch hunt and it isn’t groundless.
 
No US president has ever been removed from office on the basis of impeachment, but one can hope that this will be the first time. This investigation could get very interesting before it's over.
 
Radio here has been broadcasting trumpers essentally saying that today, it's fascinating how they have abandoned any objectivity in favour of stickin it to the libs, I don't think a piss tape or tape of a rape would budge them
Well they sure is hell aren’t:

Financial conservatives
Moral/religious/Christian conservatives

The trump supporter isn’t even a rhino..

They are a party of hypocrisy and have put partisan argument over..

God
Country
Constitutional law and freedom
Moral ethics
Etc.
Etc.

To sit here and say your a conservative that supports trump would make you a damn liar.

Trump is everything but.
 
This is so cringeworthy that I almost understand the remaining Trump apologists - they have to hope for full vindication against all hope, because there is no middle ground left whatsoever - they can either pray for full vindication, or face total annihilation. There's no being partially wrong or right - only completely and utterly wrong or right...

I understand pride. It's just that it makes them look worse and worse as time goes on... I never thought that there would be a point in time when I'd so easily and clearly be able to identify a specific group of people I will never - ever - want to have any type of interaction with, and, yet, here we are - 63 million people I would gladly never speak to again
 
Not familiar with that specific case, but yeah, it can and does happen. Rare. But it happens. It's an inherent risk that most defendants aren't aware of (attorneys should always counsel of the possibility). Usually only happens in more serious cases.
Basically these guys were renting this old, unmaintained warehouse out as residential space and raves to hippie artist types and the ghetto rigged electrical wires started a fire and like 30 something people died. I think the deal was 9 years but they’d be potentially out in 4. It was definitely a surprise ruling
 
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