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[Deaths Head]

It’s not much for Russia to sacrifice at all: their culture has placed individual value below the state for decades. What are a few lives when there are so many more to take their place? And criminals willing to fight to secure freedom? It’s a win-win, clean out prisons, and meat for the grinder.

It’s a horrible calculation, of course. But this is the reality for Russia. The gains may be small, but there ARE gains and as I understand it, the rate of Ukrainian casualties is climbing. If the current approach of European nations to give money, weapons and stand back continues then in time Ukraine will be totally lost.

Invisible Losses: Tens of thousands fighting for Russia are dying unnoticed on the frontline in Ukraine

The Kremlin’s recruitment policy is shielding society from the true impact of war.

www.bbc.com

 

[Codpiece]

Some European leaders are already talking about involving their military. They want that war for some reason.

Do they not understand they’re totally unprepared? European nations have weakened themselves militarily and industrially to disastrous levels. Their commitment to net zero has made them sickly.

Peace isn’t self-sustaining. If this situation and a reduction in US involvement wakes them up to the precariousness of their position, good. But they need time to get into fighting shape and wouldn’t be effective fighting now. That’s madness. Give them a few years of recruiting and training and re-industrialising. My bet would be that were they more powerful and assertive in their stance that Putin wouldn’t push any further.

 

[Codpiece]

Invisible Losses: Tens of thousands fighting for Russia are dying unnoticed on the frontline in Ukraine

The Kremlin’s recruitment policy is shielding society from the true impact of war.

www.bbc.com

Not exactly sure what you’re going for here. If you’re pointing out that Russia is experiencing bad losses, no argument. In fact that was kind of my point. They are losing people, but don’t really care.

That doesn’t make the situation more hopeful for Ukraine, sadly. Instead all the deaths on both sides will result in billions wasted and some land being ceded to Russia - a modest prize for all the carnage and expense.

 

[Seano]

Do they not understand they’re totally unprepared? European nations have weakened themselves militarily and industrially to disastrous levels. Their commitment to net zero has made them sickly.

Peace isn’t self-sustaining. If this situation and a reduction in US involvement wakes them up to the precariousness of their position, good. But they need time to get into fighting shape and wouldn’t be effective fighting now. That’s madness. Give them a few years of recruiting and training and re-industrialising. My bet would be that were they more powerful and assertive in their stance that Putin wouldn’t push any further.

They have US bank in NATO.

 

[Codpiece]

They have US bank in NATO.

They need to stop relying on the US. Not because Trump is evil or wants them to fail or anything, but because it’s corrosive to the spirit to be carried indefinitely by another nation, and not a good policy for future security. Europe used to be the seat of the most advanced cultures in the world, they have it in them to stand on their own two feet and therefore the duty to do so.

 

[Death By Samson]

They need to stop relying on the US. Not because Trump is evil or wants them to fail or anything, but because it’s corrosive to the spirit to be carried indefinitely by another nation, and not a good policy for future security. Europe used to be the seat of the most advanced cultures in the world, they have it in them to stand on their own two feet and therefore the duty to do so.

I was saying in another thread that I saw a European politician going on a rant yesterday. He said something like "500 million Europeans need 300 million Americans to defend them from 150 million Russians. Someone please explain that to me." I'd say that about sums it up.

 

[cincymma79]

Some European leaders are already talking about involving their military. They want that war for some reason.

They don’t have anything to send. They’re trying to send us

 

[west42]

I have been watching lots and lots of European news shows on youtube today.

A common theme has been what will Europe do if the USA pulls back. One after another is saying that it will take many, many years and a ridiculous military budget for Europe to build up it's military and intelligence to a sufficient level to replace what the US currently provides. There was a whole lot of pants pissing going on. And I'm not just talking about newscasters. It was former cabinet, former ambassadors, former military etc...

Be careful what you ask for. You just may get it.

Say goodbye to your six weeks of vacation free college free health care and 5-hour work day

 

[Flower2dPeople]

What "side"? See, you're ok with Ukrainians being killed because of some fuck Putin and Russia agenda. Just like the rest of Europe. You've maybe been brainwashed to the point common sense just goes to the wayside. Ukraine doesn't have another alternative except to beg for money and slowly get conquered.

All out war with Russia is obviously, very obviously to anyone with a working brain, NOT on the table as much as many of you wish it to be so.

No country is stupid enough to commit to a war against Russia and drag China and NK along. Might as well burn those billions away. Zelensky is just fattening up his Swiss/Cayman Islands bank accounts.

 

[Seano]

Yeah those 6 submarines are certainly putting fear in potential opponents.

Our very presence there protects them more than their own military.

 

[Siver!]

No country is stupid enough to commit to a war against Russia and drag China and NK along. Might as well burn those billions away. Zelensky is just fattening up his Swiss/Cayman Islands bank accounts.

So much focus on this, again, as if Putin has never enriched himself on the backs of slain Russians.

I just don't understand propaganda sometimes.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

So much focus on this, again, as if Putin has never enriched himself on the backs of slain Russians.

I just don't understand propaganda sometimes.

What propaganda? Putin's doing that to his own people. Zelensky is doing it with other nations resources.

 

[HereticBD]

Anyone got a picture of the dude who proposed this? I just want to make sure it checks out.

 

[Scerpi]

I was saying in another thread that I saw a European politician going on a rant yesterday. He said something like "500 million Europeans need 300 million Americans to defend them from 150 million Russians. Someone please explain that to me." I'd say that about sums it up.

Dude was from Poland...

The only EU country to deny the mass illegal immigration from Third World countries