International No, the Nazis were not 'liberal' or 'left wing', and in 2021 this shouldn't have to be repeated.

That is why I call them LARPers. The real Authoritarians using government for tyranny in today's America are Leftists / Democrats.

The point is that someone that has the views of a certain ideology isn't less of a follower of that just because he isn't in power to implement it, which means that it's only relevant to call that person a LARPer if he doesn't share any beliefs with the ideology. I'm not taking an part in the specifics of the dualistic political feud of the US, although I would hazard a bet that there are quite a few people in some countries that would think that you're using the term tyrannical government pretty loosely.
 
You think the democratic socialist workers party got voted into power in the 1930s bc of fucking “antisemitism”?

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how about the global depression, and a Weimar Republic run by people who openly hated the common German citizen?

you know, the real issues of the day for the german voter.
There are many reasons the Nazis got traction. But the most important one is anti-semitism and harnessing that into political currency. They gave German voters a target to blame for their woes and ignore that half the time the Nazis didn't know what the fuck they were doing with the economy. You'll notice the main theme of Mein Kampf is anti-semitism, not economics. When he blamed the Weimar Republic, it was usually in the context of them being controlled by international Jewry.
 
Ok fella, game on.

What part of you cannot conflate, prior to this "pandemic" the yearly scares of swine/bird/etc... flu, the relevant patents filled a few years ago, the goals and aims of the world economic forum there for all the see, the narrative and taglines used in concert by all major western states (new normal, we're all in the together, for the greater good etc..), Bill Gates with his background in eugenics- nevermind the injuries and deaths from his projects in India and Africa, the ever shifting goalposts that all started with "two weeks to flatten the curve" (here in the UK they are already saying the vaccine isn't enough - that lockdowns are the golden bullet), insane levels of censorship and an incredibly one-sided representation of the problem, the WHO recently changing their definition of herd immunity from natural immunity and vaccine - to only being possible from vaccination (going against historical precedence and well established science) ....

This is why your argument is not only ignorant, and self serving, it permisses evil, the loss of essential freedoms which previous generations fought and bled for so that we might enjoy them, and truly allows the roadmap that will ensure that future generations grow up in a medicalised tyranny - a soft gloved authoritarian world. A virus with a 99+% survival rate, the vehicle. By the position you adopt - you are the literal embodiment of the failure to learn from history.

I'm not arguing every government wants that as such. I am saying that politicians on both side of the isle do not represent the people - that they are bought and paid for by powerful lobbyists and special interests. There are countless accounts of payments being paid to various countries for their compliance with the covid agenda. Why? You're a fan of history - I'm sure you can figure it out.... although - you might need to let go of the idea that such evils are behind us and have magically disappeared.

You might find this article useful to understand what afflicts your thinking and seeing, but I doubt it - as you're obviously too far gone: https://reportingforbeauty.substack.com/p/on-the-psychology-of-the-conspiracy-7ff

IF I was calling into question the data, the "science," maybe I'd be drawing attention to the Great Barrington declaration - where thousands of world leading experts and professionals make the case for targeted protection - and against lockdowns, forced vaccines, health passports and so on.. YOU would probably say - they are the wrong experts (because your television box told you right), obviously these experts and their opinions do not count on iota in your consideration.

Here's another wrong expert: https://odysee.com/@KatiadAbundancia:3/Un-Expert-témoigne-Dr-Roger-Hodkinson:a

Funnily enough, the (normal concerned folk that know BS when they see it) "conspiracy theorists" have been right on pretty much everything regarding the "pandemic" and its roadmap. (unending lockdowns, loss of freedom of choice-vaccines, health passports etc..), for gods sake, they're already saying it's not stopping until 2022... that will keep slipping right, and different groups will be blamed for that being the case - people refusing the vaccine, the big targeted group that is due to catch it up next.

Yet when I provide an expert, an expert in the most profound sense, infinitely more qualified than YOU (or me) to discuss such matters - and you say she/what she says is stupid (you disrespectful.... xyz) - YOU contest it based on your own opinions, observations and understanding of history (which you would denigrate, minimise as a "conspiracy theory" or whatever else <again>) should I dare to offer my own opinion or observations that go against the established/presented experts that you are force fed and told to believe.

Here's another similar expert, on the same point - who should in any sane world be treated with respect and her words be considered no matter how difficult or confronting we might find them to be.


I am not saying, that Jews are the target, that it is Nazi'ism taking over the world. We are heading towards world wide authoritarianism at a frightening rate. Divide and conquer - polarisation, censorship, health passports (for basic amenities and travel), the virtuous and heroic obedient classes, the great unclean, ever shifting goalposts, nonsensical and disproportionate measures (Pavlovian shortening of the leash) etc... clear and obserbale distinctions (and historically observable as a trend and where it leads to) - ALL for "our own good" no less.

I could post countless examples of how bad it is already, a woman being beaten in Spain by police for not wearing a facemak, border guards in NZ getting sacked for not having the vaccine..... Ill post one from last week - of an Irish man who video'ed the Garda invading a church - who has since been put in a mental health institution - and his children taken away from him.

vid 1: Garda at the church:
vid 2: Man has children taken away: (there is another video of it actually happening, its been deleted off youtube tho)

Get your head out of your ass, you are on the wrong side of history, you have been completely conditioned and are little more than a drone at this point. Search out the experts who have faced loss of livelihood and vitriolic attack for speaking out, listen to that place inside you (yes it exists) that can feel something about this whole shebang doesn't add up.

Get outdoors, and holy god you are a fucking moron.

Just some quick hits:
-The expert you provided was a survivor of the Holocaust no? Living an experience doesn't make you an expert, or else every cancer survivor would be a medical genius.
-Money and political interests affect votes, but pretty sure you still got to get people to vote you into office in many countries.
-Who is included world wide authoritarianism? Is it a group with a leader or hexarchy? Can I join them? Where do I apply?

You can be intelligent and realize there have been mistakes in handling Covid and several populist governments who were already authoritarian took advance of it. Or you can be a full blown nincompoop and dive into a conspiracy. I recommend picking the former, it's better for your health, buddy.
 
Get outdoors, and holy god you are a fucking moron.

Just some quick hits:
-The expert you provided was a survivor of the Holocaust no? Living an experience doesn't make you an expert, or else every cancer survivor would be a medical genius.
-Money and political interests affect votes, but pretty sure you still got to get people to vote you into office in many countries.
-Who is included world wide authoritarianism? Is it a group with a leader or hexarchy? Can I join them? Where do I apply?

You can be intelligent and realize there have been mistakes in handling Covid and several populist governments who were already authoritarian took advance of it. Or you can be a full blown nincompoop and dive into a conspiracy. I recommend picking the former, it's better for your health, buddy.
You bellend.

I'm a moron? Sure thing princess.

What are you? Someone who has failed the test of these times, and as a result - the living embodiment of good people permitting evil, on one level - because of the underlying belief that obedience is virtue, when actually it's cowardice... A lesson history has taught time and time again. Drop you back in history - overwhelmingly the chances are you'd be following the party line, just like you are now.

Re. Your quick hits.
* I provided two experts saying the same thing thing numnuts. And while surviving cancer may not turn someone into a medical expert - it does grant a deep understanding of the lived experience, before, during and after, and maybe even give insights, such as "shit I should of gone the the doctor to get checked up years ago" or "I wish I'd listened to my friend who had previously survived cancer that had told me to check that lump out!"

But this is a strawman, using your metaphor - you are not a medical expert, and you're telling cancer survivors what is what.

Even IF you were a historical expert, that doesn't mean people that literally lived through things you read about in books won't have certain understandings that might allude you, likewise it doesn't mean you are immune to the brainwashing going on right now by virtue of your profession.

* Money and vested interests affect policy, that's what lobbying is for!?!? (Moron?) Generally speaking no matter which side gets in power, you see similar patterns of foreign policy, breaks for the super wealthy, erosion of rights etc... no matter the administration.

* As George Carlin said, it's a big club, and we're not in it.

You can be intelligent and still be swept away by the one sided narrative force fed through the media, you can be intelligent and deep down be afraid of your self soothing understanding of the world being shaken, you can be intelligent and be wrong, likewise you can be intelligent and dismiss everything (including what is directly observable if you just unplug for a while) outside of the propoganda you swallow wholesale as a ConSpiraCy TheoRy.

You can choose to carry on as you are, sure - that'd make you a coward, a fool, and complicit in what is happening and what is coming.

But to be honest, being willing to look for your own answers, will in many ways make things pretty damn uncomfortable and inconvenient... Unfortunately it's the only way we get out of this.

I won't go on about the other points I made in the previous post you haven't touched.

Chow for now.
 
Ill post one from last week - of an Irish man who video'ed the Garda invading a church - who has since been put in a mental health institution - and his children taken away from him.

vid 1: Garda at the church:
vid 2: Man has children taken away: (there is another video of it actually happening, its been deleted off youtube tho)

Get your head out of your ass, you are on the wrong side of history, you have been completely conditioned and are little more than a drone at this point. Search out the experts who have faced loss of livelihood and vitriolic attack for speaking out, listen to that place inside you (yes it exists) that can feel something about this whole shebang doesn't add up.


That's pretty shocking.
But, the fact that this is not national news in Ireland rings alarm bells and made me do a bit of digging around.

It seems the man in question was in a dispute with his estranged wife over custody of those children. She lives in France and the kids went to visit him in Ireland for a holiday and he refused to send them back. She had to take legal action against him. His claim that French schools requiring children to wear masks was damaging their health. The court ruled against him and the police were instructed to return the children to their mother.

Names in family cases are sub-judice in Ireland but "through the grapevine" this article might be interesting to anyone following the case. It's possibly relevant... who knows.
https://www.thejournal.ie/high-court-fathers-loses-challenge-sons-face-mask-france-5384574-Mar2021/
Note he was ordered to send the kids home in March but in May the police had to come and get them.

Furthermore the videos you linked are from the National Party, a fringe alt-right group in Ireland. I don't know if you have been taken in by their propaganda or if you are another bell-end like these guys.

Here's a link to the Cabáiste in your original videos confirming that the children have gone back to their mother and also confirming he is in the National Party (in case you think I am some smearing deep stater lol).


They are all the usual "antis" you see from the Tighty Righties in the War Room just with a rub of the Green. Anti-EU, anti-vax, anti-immigrant, anti-lockdown, covid denier and so on. The only difference would be their fundamentalist Catholicism which might not play well with the usual suspects here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_(Ireland,_2016)

I don't know if Church Man is a member of their party or if they are just trying to spin this guys experience to promote their alt-right fake news that the covid is bringing in a police state etc.

I think it's somewhat relevant to the theme of the thread. That modern Rightists are doing their best to gas-light people into thinking 1930's German fascism is a left thing.
 
Drop you back in history - overwhelmingly the chances are you'd be following the party line, just like you are now.
Dude, that's history. Most people do not do shit during history and go about with their lives. It's pretty boring. Civil Rights, wars, dictatorships, most ppl just continue their day to day life for better or worse, and then people 50 years later in a first world country will go on about how, "oh, I would have fought the Nazis cuz I'm brave." Get the fuck out with your ignorance.
allude you,
Err, what is spelling for 500, Alex?
* I provided two experts saying the same thing thing numnuts.
Well congratulations, I'm not convinced, you've gotten me two experts when the world has...thousands who disagree? Also what the fuck is a numnut?
As George Carlin said, it's a big club, and we're not in it.
So who is in this mysterious big club? If it's a big club, I presume it must have millions in it given the world's population.
Someone who has failed the test of these times,
Oh no, am I going to hell, good sir? Say it isn't so, I've failed your big bad test.
I won't go on about the other points I made in the previous post you haven't touched.
You wrote an conspiracy essay on a karate forum, I'm not sure who you were expecting to read it, let alone engage with it critically.
 
That's pretty shocking.
But, the fact that this is not national news in Ireland rings alarm bells and made me do a bit of digging around.
Crom,

IItseemsthe man in question was in a dispute with his estranged wife over custody of those children. She lives in France and the kids went to visit him in Ireland for a holiday and he refused to send them back. She had to take legal action against him. His claim that French schools requiring children to wear masks was damaging their health. The court ruled against him and the police were instructed to return the children to their mother.

Names in family cases are sub-judice in Ireland but "through the grapevine" this article might be interesting to anyone following the case. It's possibly relevant... who knows.
https://www.thejournal.ie/high-court-fathers-loses-challenge-sons-face-mask-france-5384574-Mar2021/
Note he was ordered to send the kids home in March but in May the police had to come and get them.

Furthermore the videos you linked are from the National Party, a fringe alt-right group in Ireland. I don't know if you have been taken in by their propaganda or if you are another bell-end like these guys.

Here's a link to the Cabáiste in your original videos confirming that the children have gone back to their mother and also confirming he is in the National Party (in case you think I am some smearing deep stater lol).


They are all the usual "antis" you see from the Tighty Righties in the War Room just with a rub of the Green. Anti-EU, anti-vax, anti-immigrant, anti-lockdown, covid denier and so on. The only difference would be their fundamentalist Catholicism which might not play well with the usual suspects here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_(Ireland,_2016)

I don't know if Church Man is a member of their party or if they are just trying to spin this guys experience to promote their alt-right fake news that the covid is bringing in a police state etc.

I think it's somewhat relevant to the theme of the thread. That modern Rightists are doing their best to gas-light people into thinking 1930's German fascism is a left thing.

That's pretty shocking.
But, the fact that this is not national news in Ireland rings alarm bells and made me do a bit of digging around.

It seems the man in question was in a dispute with his estranged wife over custody of those children. She lives in France and the kids went to visit him in Ireland for a holiday and he refused to send them back. She had to take legal action against him. His claim that French schools requiring children to wear masks was damaging their health. The court ruled against him and the police were instructed to return the children to their mother.

Names in family cases are sub-judice in Ireland but "through the grapevine" this article might be interesting to anyone following the case. It's possibly relevant... who knows.
https://www.thejournal.ie/high-court-fathers-loses-challenge-sons-face-mask-france-5384574-Mar2021/
Note he was ordered to send the kids home in March but in May the police had to come and get them.

Furthermore the videos you linked are from the National Party, a fringe alt-right group in Ireland. I don't know if you have been taken in by their propaganda or if you are another bell-end like these guys.

Here's a link to the Cabáiste in your original videos confirming that the children have gone back to their mother and also confirming he is in the National Party (in case you think I am some smearing deep stater lol).


They are all the usual "antis" you see from the Tighty Righties in the War Room just with a rub of the Green. Anti-EU, anti-vax, anti-immigrant, anti-lockdown, covid denier and so on. The only difference would be their fundamentalist Catholicism which might not play well with the usual suspects here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_(Ireland,_2016)

I don't know if Church Man is a member of their party or if they are just trying to spin this guys experience to promote their alt-right fake news that the covid is bringing in a police state etc.

I think it's somewhat relevant to the theme of the thread. That modern Rightists are doing their best to gas-light people into thinking 1930's German fascism is a left thing.


Crom.

Well spotted, and apologies - that's my bad.

I saw the original video of the man in question getting his house raided at 3am in the morning. It indeed seems to be a domestic dispute, I've updated my post accordingly.

Regarding the other points, it is not an purely "alt right" stance that is against lockdowns or arguing vehemtly the reaction (cure) to covid prior and present is far worse than the virus (disease) itself. As an example - there are plenty of left leaning folk who attended the march into London a couple of days ago, or that have support groups and so on.

Despite how the media portrays it, here in the UK, being anti lockdown, or making the case against the decent into medicalised authoritarianism - is a cross party movement.

Likewise I've spoken to plenty of folk on the other side of the pond with similar stances regardless of political persuasion.

Yeah... I'm not particularly in on or a supporter of the Irish national party. But alt right/populism is less of an issue for me than it seems to you, infact I'd go so far to say it's an understable response, even a correction to neo-liberal/globalist policies that have screwed over working folks for generations.

That might make me a bellend in your eyes I guess.

Likewise making the movement against covid measures a partisan issue, or making it out to be right wing gaslighting as opposed to the chance there just might be something to be concerned about - could also be considered bellend'ish.

But fair one, that example I gave was inaccurate, I'll take that on the chin.

Cheers
 
Crom.

Well spotted, and apologies - that's my bad.

I saw the original video of the man in question getting his house raided at 3am in the morning. It indeed seems to be a domestic dispute, I've updated my post accordingly.

Regarding the other points, it is not an purely "alt right" stance that is against lockdowns or arguing vehemtly the reaction (cure) to covid prior and present is far worse than the virus (disease) itself. As an example - there are plenty of left leaning folk who attended the march into London a couple of days ago, or that have support groups and so on.

Despite how the media portrays it, here in the UK, being anti lockdown, or making the case against the decent into medicalised authoritarianism - is a cross party movement.

Likewise I've spoken to plenty of folk on the other side of the pond with similar stances regardless of political persuasion.

Yeah... I'm not particularly in on or a supporter of the Irish national party. But alt right/populism is less of an issue for me than it seems to you, infact I'd go so far to say it's an understable response, even a correction to neo-liberal/globalist policies that have screwed over working folks for generations.

That might make me a bellend in your eyes I guess.

Likewise making the movement against covid measures a partisan issue, or making it out to be right wing gaslighting as opposed to the chance there just might be something to be concerned about - could also be considered bellend'ish.

But fair one, that example I gave was inaccurate, I'll take that on the chin.

Cheers

While we won't agree on everything, and flinging shit in the War Room is what we like to do for fun around here, you've got some solid points in that post and you get my respect brother.
 
Dude, that's history. Most people do not do shit during history and go about with their lives. It's pretty boring. Civil Rights, wars, dictatorships, most ppl just continue their day to day life for better or worse, and then people 50 years later in a first world country will go on about how, "oh, I would have fought the Nazis cuz I'm brave." Get the fuck out with your ignorance.

Err, what is spelling for 500, Alex?

Well congratulations, I'm not convinced, you've gotten me two experts when the world has...thousands who disagree? Also what the fuck is a numnut?

So who is in this mysterious big club? If it's a big club, I presume it must have millions in it given the world's population.

Oh no, am I going to hell, good sir? Say it isn't so, I've failed your big bad test.

You wrote an conspiracy essay on a karate forum, I'm not sure who you were expecting to read it, let alone engage with it critically.

Dude, that's history. Most people do not do shit during history and go about with their lives. It's pretty boring. Civil Rights, wars, dictatorships, most ppl just continue their day to day life for better or worse, and then people 50 years later in a first world country will go on about how, "oh, I would have fought the Nazis cuz I'm brave." Get the fuck out with your ignorance.

Yes, exactly - that IS history. Sure, on many occasions people have kept their head down and weathered the storm/times. The example we are discussing (ala my two experts who apparently count for fuck all) is that in certain times of history, the stakes are SO high, that not speaking up simply doesn't cut it. Nevermind actually making a stand for the BS being espoused. Normal people did horrific things, or by not speaking up (let alone supporting the narrative) played their part in what unfolded.

The whole point of history, or even life - at least in part surely - is to learn from it, so we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

I don't know if its about "I'd be a hero in nazi germany" - but more about if I/you/one was there (or here), to be speaking up, or smuggling those who are targeted out of the country or whatever would be something to aim for. Or more likely it could mean that one wouldn't be spitting on, beating, grassing up those who the powers that be are making out to be the great unclean, or supporting the narrative that makes such things possible? Something we can already see the beginnings of with the narrative around those refusing mRNA vaccinations.

History has shown us, how easy and unfortunately common it is for normal people to get enrolled in and even take part in utterly inhuman and evil measures.
How about you get the fuck out of here? With your ignorance, your inability to draw distinctions from the past, and your wishful thinking that somehow we as a species (in the west) have transcended such risks and failures of the human condition - in relationship to established power and the narratives they feed us to suit an agenda of their own.

Err, what is spelling for 500, Alex?
Great job - spelling critique eh, that fucking showed me.

Well congratulations, I'm not convinced, you've gotten me two experts when the world has...thousands who disagree? Also what the fuck is a numnut?
You are obviously a numnut lol - have a look in the mirror ;). And you obviously are not convinced - maybe if they were on the TV channel or in the newspaper of your choice - and the commentators were supporting their observations, you might find it a bit more digestible? The unfortunate reality being that the ones trying to raise the alarm, are always faced with ostracism, attack and ridicule.

For another example of a numut - I am one for posting an innacurate example a few posts ago re. Ireland.

So who is in this mysterious big club? If it's a big club, I presume it must have millions in it given the world's population.
Well... I think it's a safe bet to consider the ultra wealthy or high level politicians.... are members of the club. If you'd of read the article on substack I shared - you might of got the beginnings of an answer.

Oh no, am I going to hell, good sir? Say it isn't so, I've failed your big bad test.
But dude, it's not my test. Maybe you're going to hell, maybe not - I don't know! The test is of history, the test is of our humanity, the test is of where we are headed and the part we play in it.

You wrote an conspiracy essay on a karate forum, I'm not sure who you were expecting to read it, let alone engage with it critically.
Well I hate to say it, but I believe you have made a valid point.

All the best
 
That is why I call them LARPers. The real Authoritarians using government for tyranny in today's America are Leftists / Democrats.

WTF?

Regarding the other points, it is not an purely "alt right" stance that is against lockdowns or arguing vehemtly the reaction (cure) to covid prior and present is far worse than the virus (disease) itself.

Are you aware of any evidence that places where the gov't did less to try to prevent COVID spread saw better economic results? Might be interesting to compare differing health results with different economic results to get a sense of the tradeoffs, but last I saw (which was fairly early in the process), places that took minimal gov't-imposed or encouraged steps did *not* see better economic results, in part because they were hit harder and thus the public and businesses chose to take the same precautions that were encouraged elsewhere. That seemed to fit with the early consensus among economists that we'd do more for the economy by trying to stem the tide than we would just saying fuck it.
 
I don't know if its about "I'd be a hero in nazi germany" - but more about if I/you/one was there (or here), to be speaking up, or smuggling those who are targeted out of the country or whatever would be something to aim for. Or more likely it could mean that one wouldn't be spitting on, beating, grassing up those who the powers that be are making out to be the great unclean, or supporting the narrative that makes such things possible? Something we can already see the beginnings of with the narrative around those refusing mRNA vaccinations.
And you are currently speaking up against...lockdowns? Vaccines? Fuck all?
Great job - spelling critique eh, that fucking showed me.
Just saying, typos happen, but allude/elude is a very strange one.
You are obviously a numnut lol
I'm actually being genuine here. Do people in the UK actually abbreviate numbnut to numnut, or is that just a you thing?
The test is of history, the test is of our humanity, the test is of where we are headed and the part we play in it.
So who's proctoring this test of history? Is it pass fail? Is it curved? Is it graded A-F? Open book? Just the fact that your analogy invites this many questions is pretty clear evidence of how stupid a construct it is.
Well I hate to say it, but I believe you have made a valid point.

All the best
I mean, there's things I'll put time into reading and things I won't. I leave your dribble to other posters.
For another example of a numut - I am one for posting an innacurate example a few posts ago re. Ireland.
It's not like you got a name or small detail wrong, you fell for a total scam, hook, line and sinker. Shouldn't that be a red flag that maybe you should pump the breaks with your global test of history, evil elite, blah blah blah tirrade?
 
WTF?



Are you aware of any evidence that places where the gov't did less to try to prevent COVID spread saw better economic results? Might be interesting to compare differing health results with different economic results to get a sense of the tradeoffs, but last I saw (which was fairly early in the process), places that took minimal gov't-imposed or encouraged steps did *not* see better economic results, in part because they were hit harder and thus the public and businesses chose to take the same precautions that were encouraged elsewhere. That seemed to fit with the early consensus among economists that we'd do more for the economy by trying to stem the tide than we would just saying fuck it.

Fair enough on the bottom part of your post. The blue states that did push the more draconian measures did no better on infection rate / death rate, but did far far far worse economically. The blue state governors went too far.
 
Fair enough on the bottom part of your post. The blue states that did push the more draconian measures did no better on infection rate / death rate, but did far far far worse economically. The blue state governors went too far.

Can you link the numbers you're looking at? Sort not by how they vote in presidential elections, but by measures taken to prevent spread of COVID. Might also want to adjust by dominant industry, as some would be hit harder than others.
 
WTF?



Are you aware of any evidence that places where the gov't did less to try to prevent COVID spread saw better economic results? Might be interesting to compare differing health results with different economic results to get a sense of the tradeoffs, but last I saw (which was fairly early in the process), places that took minimal gov't-imposed or encouraged steps did *not* see better economic results, in part because they were hit harder and thus the public and businesses chose to take the same precautions that were encouraged elsewhere. That seemed to fit with the early consensus among economists that we'd do more for the economy by trying to stem the tide than we would just saying fuck it.
Sweden?
 

That's not really how you'd answer the question. You'd want to look systematically. Find a way to measure the strength of the gov't response and correlate it to growth, while controlling for other factors (like we know that some industries were hit harder than others). Also, I'm seeing this. From Nov. 2020 so there could be a more up-to-date listing, but I don't have it. Looks like Sweden was pretty much middle of the pack in terms of economic growth for the year, worse than its neighbors to the east and west.
 
That's not really how you'd answer the question. You'd want to look systematically. Find a way to measure the strength of the gov't response and correlate it to growth, while controlling for other factors (like we know that some industries were hit harder than others). Also, I'm seeing this. From Nov. 2020 so there could be a more up-to-date listing, but I don't have it. Looks like Sweden was pretty much middle of the pack in terms of economic growth for the year, worse than its neighbors to the east and west.

Taiwan and Japan?
 
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