No Gi gripping hints

[Mateus Felipe]

Hello, everybody.
In my childhood I used to train Judo, and in my adolescence I trained Sanda (Sanshou). Recently I started to train again, by myself, but not a specific martial art. I'm combining various techniques from several throwing/submission arts, such as Judo, BJJ, Sambo and Wrestling, but no-gi. The problem is that in many of them, usually the fighter wears a jacket. The jacket is very important for gripping, and I'm havin a little trouble at gripping. Some grips are easy. For example, I can use my hand on adversary neck instead of holding her neck lapel. But there are some grips that simply don't work with no-gi, such as when you hold the adversary sleeve near to wrist. I tried to adapt, but if I simply hold with my hand her wrist or biceps/triceps, it's not effective, especially considering that the fighters are sweating, so the skin becomes slippy.

What are the best ways of doing no-gi gripping? What hints could you give me? Thanks in advance.

 

[fanboysareevil]

I suggest you look up some troll-kwon-do on Youtube and work from there.

 

[j123]

Some grips you'll have to abandon when it comes to no-gi.

Holding the wrist isn't a strong grip, depending on what you're looking to do, having a whizzer type high-overhook is more stable than a wrist hold.

 

[Mateus Felipe]

Some grips you'll have to abandon when it comes to no-gi.

Holding the wrist isn't a strong grip, depending on what you're looking to do, having a whizzer type high-overhook is more stable than a wrist hold.

Sometimes I lock my adversary wrist in my armpit (something like overhook). It's more stable than holding the wrist. Going to try overhook. The problem of these is that they make you get too close from the adversary, so, for example, when you try to do something like an Tomoe Nage, doesn't work. It's not hard to do a Tomoe Nage when training, but when you are fighting it becomes really hard to control adversary arm.

 

[rand486]

It's not a perfect transition, but generally speaking in grappling, here's how I like to think of complementary gi vs no-gi grips:

Sleeve Grip : Grabbing the meat of the hand (below the pinky), or grab all four fingers. Not reliable.
Lapel Grip: Underhook
Collar Grip: Scoop the back of the head. Look at Collar Ties (wrestling) for stand up, and snapdowns (cupping at the crown of the head, not base of the neck) for posture breaking.
Sleeve and Elbow Grip: Two on One, or Arm Drag (Palm up or palm down, situation depending)
Pant Grip: Situation depending, you'll want to grab at their ankle behind the heel for leg drags, etc, or hold the ball of their foot if you're trying to stuff it.
Pant Grip at the knees: C-Grip (ie: Thumb out) in the "knee pit"

Another fun difference for guard passing: It's usually better to transition straight to N/S than to try and establish side control right off the pass.

 

[FatherSauce]

Also, look up Reilly Bodycomb's No Kurtka.

 

[Mateus Felipe]

It's not a perfect transition, but generally speaking in grappling, here's how I like to think of complementary gi vs no-gi grips:

Sleeve Grip : Grabbing the meat of the hand (below the pinky), or grab all four fingers. Not reliable.
Lapel Grip: Underhook
Collar Grip: Scoop the back of the head. Look at Collar Ties (wrestling) for stand up, and snapdowns (cupping at the crown of the head, not base of the neck) for posture breaking.
Sleeve and Elbow Grip: Two on One, or Arm Drag (Palm up or palm down, situation depending)
Pant Grip: Situation depending, you'll want to grab at their ankle behind the heel for leg drags, etc, or hold the ball of their foot if you're trying to stuff it.
Pant Grip at the knees: C-Grip (ie: Thumb out) in the "knee pit"

Another fun difference for guard passing: It's usually better to transition straight to N/S than to try and establish side control right off the pass.

I tested the "four fingers grip" and it seems to be much more effective than wrist gripping. About the other ones, some of them I did not understand (sorry, I'm from Brazil)

Also, look up Reilly Bodycomb's No Kurtka.

I like it, seeking to buy.

 

[jcandoitbig]

2 on 1 control. look up marcelo garcia vids