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I agree about the instance in her vs UFC, but the bigger picture is NLRB looking into the IC classification.
This can be interesting.
NLRB plans to file complaint against UFC in Leslie Smith case
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I agree about the instance in her vs UFC, but the bigger picture is NLRB looking into the IC classification.
This can be interesting.
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They will probably just settle right?
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I can't even guess
If they do it admits guilt
If they don't & win then they are in the clear as far as classification goes
I don't know how UFC & their legal team feels about the chances
I've called the NLRB a few times with friends who were having issues at work. The company always settled and paid up in my experience. The NLRB didn't take up the cases unless there was a clear documented infraction. I don't know if that's always the case--I have a very small sample size--but my guess is the UFC will play it smart and pay for this specific suit to go away with as little publicity as possible. They may even reinstate her, that was a condition for each of my friends and they all have a job today and don't get messed with at work anymore.
EDIT** each of those instances somewhat mirrored this--discipline (suspension and in one case termination) of a 1099 worker who was actively organizing other employees outside of work hours.
EDIT** each of those instances somewhat mirrored this--discipline (suspension and in one case termination) of a 1099 worker who was actively organizing other employees outside of work hours.
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Apropo of nothing...
I think it's in the interests of everyone who is into MMA as an athlete or a fan that the fighters get paid a proportionate amount of the money generated.
It will only drive the sport to new heights.
In the 1950's Soccer and NFL players were getting butt-fucked. But they organised and they "took" the money because (ultimately) they "make" the money.
It's only a matter of time before the MMA fighters do the same and the sport will be better for it just like Soccer and NFL were.
Who gives a fuck if Marky Whalberg can't buy a new lambo or pay off a porn star so his wife doesn't find out.
Whether you are a socialist or a libertarian - it's an economic imperative.
I think it's in the interests of everyone who is into MMA as an athlete or a fan that the fighters get paid a proportionate amount of the money generated.
It will only drive the sport to new heights.
In the 1950's Soccer and NFL players were getting butt-fucked. But they organised and they "took" the money because (ultimately) they "make" the money.
It's only a matter of time before the MMA fighters do the same and the sport will be better for it just like Soccer and NFL were.
Who gives a fuck if Marky Whalberg can't buy a new lambo or pay off a porn star so his wife doesn't find out.
Whether you are a socialist or a libertarian - it's an economic imperative.
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I don't feel settling admits guilt. Standargame is just to wait until something bubbles to this point, and then pay people off.
I dont think it admits guilt. Companies settle all the time, even if they are in the right, just to keep out of the public spotlight. I think it makes sense to play hard ball but when it bubbles to this point, pay people off. Leslie prob doesnt want much to feel like she won. Obviously part of the settlement would involve controlling what Leslie can say afterward. However, if the UFC feels they can win even now, then sure, call and play.
This. So much this.
Higher pay means more people want to participate which means more interest and larger talent pool which means ultimately more money for everyone, probably UFC included. Fighters get a bigger portion of the pie but the pie gets a lot bigger as well.
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Pfft, rich people fighting over definitions, sounds fun
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if they actually get to court. Not sure it'll make it there.
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Do we call Middlebrook out for fake news?
Within 1 hour of Middlebrook telling everyone that NLRB were filing a complaint, the NLRB tell him they have actually just referred it to their "Division of Advice" in Washington
https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/...ainst-ufc-now-in-holding-pattern-after-change
On Friday morning, Leslie Smith’s attorney Lucas Middlebrook told MMA Fighting that he was informed by a National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) regional investigator that Smith’s case against the UFC was deemed to have merit and the NLRB would be filing an official complaint.
As it turns out, it won’t be that cut and dried.
Middlebrook said things changed just hours later, after news broke about the impending complaint. The labor lawyer said that the NLRB Region 4 investigator has now told him that it has now been decided that the case will have to go through the NLRB’s Division of Advice in Washington, D.C., before any decisions are made.
Middlebrook claims the UFC "flexed its muscle" to get it referred to a higher level, but he doesnt actually provide anything backing that up..
honestly, i believe about 50% of what this guy says, theres a lot of PR going on..
Within 1 hour of Middlebrook telling everyone that NLRB were filing a complaint, the NLRB tell him they have actually just referred it to their "Division of Advice" in Washington
https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/...ainst-ufc-now-in-holding-pattern-after-change
On Friday morning, Leslie Smith’s attorney Lucas Middlebrook told MMA Fighting that he was informed by a National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) regional investigator that Smith’s case against the UFC was deemed to have merit and the NLRB would be filing an official complaint.
As it turns out, it won’t be that cut and dried.
Middlebrook said things changed just hours later, after news broke about the impending complaint. The labor lawyer said that the NLRB Region 4 investigator has now told him that it has now been decided that the case will have to go through the NLRB’s Division of Advice in Washington, D.C., before any decisions are made.
Middlebrook claims the UFC "flexed its muscle" to get it referred to a higher level, but he doesnt actually provide anything backing that up..
honestly, i believe about 50% of what this guy says, theres a lot of PR going on..
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Leslie"s smith brings this question at public hearings.
If they are employees, it should be with free insurance,healthcare,and etc. But if they call them independent contractors,then pay them more money. And probably one of those things gonna happen soon
If they are employees, it should be with free insurance,healthcare,and etc. But if they call them independent contractors,then pay them more money. And probably one of those things gonna happen soon
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Interesting... the little person vs a billion dollar business.
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Why more money?
The UFC offers a contract, the fighters sign or not.
Why exactly should the UFC be offering more money than the fighters are accepting?
That sounds like a terrible business model.
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The beginning of the end of the UFC
Confirmed: UFC is dying
Confirmed: UFC is dying
