Ngannou is officially done

[Prex32]

Francis is a nobody without the UFC

he will be alright im sure
not everything in life is about money
and dude surely wont starve

 

[newms84]

A real undefeated heavyweight king with his career now in limbo while a phoney fraud like conor McGregor rakes in millions

What a joke

Who is this undefeated heavyweight king you're talking about?

 

[ImNotMirsadBektic]

What do you mean?

It wasn't the money he rejected. He rejected the contract offer because it didn't include his demands regarding fighters unions etc.

 

[Zaar]

I'm just sad we won't see Jones - Ngannou, tbh.

 

[cmw43]

It wasn't the money he rejected. He rejected the contract offer because it didn't include his demands regarding fighters unions etc.

I think that was just baloney, the boxing clause was the real sticking point.

He wanted to leave for one boxing mega money fight then come back and get his $8m from UFC.

Having his cake and eating it.

 

[Xanzito]

It was a big bet, hope It pays off. But as It was said here, if he doesnt get a Fury on board, the only MMA company with the funds to pay what he thinks he deserves is the UFC. And It seems he torched that bridge, or at least badly damaged It.

 

[Royce's Gi]

Honda Housey VS Wilbert next

THEN it can be Franciscus turn

 

[infokuss]

- the fact that his management is in talks with glory says it all basically. He's trying desperately to set up anything possible after he miscalculated his next career step. Seems and feels like a Bob Sapp farewell tour.

- Frank trusted a mentally unstable, overweight gypsy (no disrespect, I love Fury) to have the opportunity of his life but got played. Fury is for sure not interested in a fight with Ngannou otherwise it would be public already. Fury will fight Joyce next and then Usyk. Guaranteed.

- Wilders is not the money fight he was looking for. Ngannou Wilders would have maximum 50k ppv buys and I am sure not even the arabs are anymore interested in Wilders after he got cucked by Fury.

- Bellator or PFL are not able to afford him. He could have a contract where he's allowed to Box against some cab drivers but that's all.

What other options does he have? Paul Brothers?

I don't think you know what 'officially' means.

 

[Fergelmince]

Glory (or any MMA organization) cannot pay anywhere near the 8m offered by the UFC for the Jones fight … in fact as Francis unfortunately fades into obscurity to the general public via inactivity and a new UFC HW champion, I’m not sure he can get 8m even vs Fury or Wilder or AJ … never mind that those fantasy boxing matches of his seem further and further away (if ever).

I really like him but unfortunately his business and negotiation acumen has so far proved to be incredibly bad and his entourage/advisors are clearly a bunch of silly amateurs who absolutely misjudged by a mile his standalone marketability and value.

How much can Glory pay?

 

[Fergelmince]

I can't see the Arabs offering more money than the UFC. They could stack a fun freakshow card for what Francis is asking.

What is the Arabs' budget for a a fighter like Ngannou?

 

[piropiro]

How much can Glory pay?

Their biggest purses ever were reported at 1 million … they might - not clear why but let’s imagine - double that for Francis, but definitely wouldn’t and couldn’t offer 3, let alone 8 like the UFC offered. It would likely bankrupt them, as it’s probably what they pay in purses for a whole year of events.

 

[kflo]

Their biggest purses ever were reported at 1 million … they might - not clear why but let’s imagine - double that for Francis, but definitely wouldn’t and couldn’t offer 3, let alone 8 like the UFC offered. It would likely bankrupt them, as it’s probably what they pay in purses for a whole year of events.

this is why the pay discussions are so irrational. if francis can't draw the revenue without the ufc his market value isn't just a function of what revenue gets generated for his fights in the ufc.

that said, it's hard to use glory history as a basis for what francis could draw there.

 

[Fergelmince]

Their biggest purses ever were reported at 1 million … they might - not clear why but let’s imagine - double that for Francis, but definitely wouldn’t and couldn’t offer 3, let alone 8 like the UFC offered. It would likely bankrupt them, as it’s probably what they pay in purses for a whole year of events.

So you are guessing how much they will pay ngannou based on what they've previously paid another fighter and no visibility to their financials?

 

[piropiro]

So you are guessing how much they will pay ngannou based on what they've previously paid another fighter and no visibility to their financials?

If for the last 20 years you’ve paid max 1m and only to a handful of superstars, whilst your entire annual purse total was probably under 3m, it’s rather unlikely that you’ll suddenly pay several years total budget to one guy.

Rather than trying to be “clever” just be logical.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Francis Notgonnafightsoon

 

[Fergelmince]

If for the last 20 years you’ve paid max 1m and only to a handful of superstars, whilst your entire annual purse total was probably under 3m, it’s rather unlikely that you’ll suddenly pay several years total budget to one guy.

Rather than trying to be “clever” just be logical.

There's nothing more logical than their financials, and you guessing what they are without seeing them is hardly "logical."

This is basically every single one of you MFers, lol

 

[Paulsp]

He underestimated how hard it is for these boxers to get fights signed

Look at the nightmare that is usyk/fury right now

 

[piropiro]

There's nothing more logical than their financials, and you guessing what they are without seeing them is hardly "logical."

This is basically every single one of you MFers, lol

1) I actually like Francis and wish him the best, so you clearly misunderstand everything … I wrote about Glory’s likely inability to remotely match his UFC offer, nothing to do with wanting him to “fail”

2) you obviously have no understanding of basic economic principles and business operations, that’s ok, no need to further highlight your ignorance of the topic

All the best to Francis!

 

[The Bloody Nine]

1) I actually like Francis and wish him the best, so you clearly misunderstand everything … I wrote about Glory’s likely inability to remotely match his UFC offer, nothing to do with wanting him to “fail”

2) you obviously have no understanding of basic economic principles and business operations, that’s ok, no need to further highlight your ignorance of the topic

All the best to Francis!

I fear you're wasting your time on this moron. His tiny lizard brain views everything as for and against. If you look at the situation and opine (sensibly) that Francis has likely fucked up, then you're clearly a UFC shill and you hate Francis and love Dana, blah blah blah.

There is simply no in-between with these dummies. It's pretty funny.

 

[CC27]

Lets see what happens. I tend to agree that I don't think he has the options he thought he had and that he might not even make more than the $8m he was offered for Jones, but time will tell.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesnt but that might not even be whats most important to him. To him asking for all the insurance for fighters etc and not getting it and then just taking the money would make him stupid which is what his coach said he said. So its like Khabib, you know UFC threw all the money at him to come back and yet his word to his mother meant more than money. I think Francis wants to get paid alot but think his pride and freedom and treatment etc means more to him. So maybe his next fight he wont actually make as much as he would have vs Jones but he'll have his freedom and it will be his choice etc