Ngannou is kinda overrated

[TorontoTO]

I don't care

Then why even bring up that Pride fighters used roids, news flash, most fighters use them in the UFC or not

 

[chinarice]

Then why even bring up that Pride fighters used roids, news flash, most fighters use them in the UFC or not

Because im playing the game that the TS is playing and if you took one second to look at my original post, you'd see that.

Cool that you're outing yourself as not being impartial though.

 

[Royce Greasy]

He was the champ at the time. The best HW on the roster at the time.

UFC allows their fighters to sit back and not defend the titles and become rusty.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Because im playing the game that the TS is playing and if you took one second to look at my original post, you'd see that.

Cool that you're outing yourself as not being impartial though.

I never mentioned anything about roids though, saying the Pride era HW division sucks is laughable compared to the modern HW UFC division that's like hard core delusion and really sucking off UFC you're going deep for them there lol.

 

[chinarice]

I never mentioned anything about roids though, saying the Pride era HW division sucks is laughable compared to the modern HW UFC division that's like hard core delusion and really sucking off UFC you're going deep for them there lol.

Can you please make sense? You don't make any sense. It's like you're arguing something that I literally told you I'm just playing your stupid game with Ngannou with the pride guys and can play your game with any MMA fighter in history.

It's kind of sad having to hold people's hands to make it through conversations

 

[Royce Greasy]

Can you please make sense? You don't make any sense. It's like you're arguing something that I literally told you I'm just playing your stupid game with Ngannou with the pride guys and can play your game with any MMA fighter in history.

It's kind of sad having to hold people's hands to make it through conversations

All you ever say is you don't make sense dumb shit I'm responding to your roids accusations against the Pride fighters you brought that up, freaking tard.

I don't play games either I'm not a fukking child like 90% of UFC fans nowadays, plus it wasn't a game I meant what I wrote about Ngannou the dude is overrated based on the quality of opponents its pretty simple to follow and your counter is well the Pride guys suck that's not much of an argument and sounds braindead impulsive like how about actually trying to give evidence to support your claim if you can't do that then your opinion is dogshit not worth my time.

 

[chinarice]

All you ever say is you don't make sense dumb shit I'm responding to your roids accusations against the Pride fighters you brought that up, freaking tard.

I don't play games either I'm not a fukking child like 90% of UFC fans nowadays, plus it wasn't a game I meant what I wrote about Ngannou the dude is overrated based on the quality of opponents its pretty simple to follow and your counter is well the Pride guys suck that's not much of an argument and sounds braindead impulsive like how about actually trying to give evidence support your claim if you can't do that then your opinion is dogshit not worth my time.

Your OP is garbage and I just played your game. Don't get mad when someone plays your shit game back at you.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Your OP is garbage and I just played your game. Don't get mad when someone plays your shit game back at you.

What fukking game you absolute tard, giving my opinion on Ngannou being overrated is playing a game please stfu kid, beyond childish and stupid your mentality is oh he insulted an athlete that I live through so therefore I'm gonna say x,y,z sucks to get back at him because he hurt feelies please eat a dick.

 

[chinarice]

What fukking game you absolute tard, giving my opinion on Ngannou being overrated is playing a game please stfu kid, beyond childish and stupid your mentality is oh he insulted an athlete that I live through so therefore I'm gonna say x,y,z sucks to get back at him because he hurt feelies please eat a dick.

Fuck you're so stupid. I can't even continue to converse with you because you say nothing but stupid shit.

Bye loser. Maybe some day you'll have an opinion that isn't stupid.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Your OP is garbage and I just played your game. Don't get mad when someone plays your shit game back at you.

You're just so pathetic and low IQ and think you're smart.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Fuck you're so stupid. I can't even continue to converse with you because you say nothing but stupid shit.

Bye loser. Maybe some day you'll have an opinion that isn't stupid.

That's all you do is say you're stupid absolutely no debating skills whatsoever just like the clowns who say tldr like I care what you think dumb fuck again go eat a dick.

 

[Royce Greasy]

That's all you do is say you're stupid absolutely no debating skills whatsoever just like the clowns who say tldr like I care what you think dumb fuck again go eat a dick.

That's all you do is say you're stupid absolutely no debating skills whatsoever just like the clowns who say tldr like I care what you think dumb fuck again go eat a dick.

Fuck you're so stupid. I can't even continue to converse with you because you say nothing but stupid shit.

Bye loser. Maybe some day you'll have an opinion that isn't stupid.

Maybe some day you'll have an opinion that isn't stupid.

So that's it right there lol I didn't have the opinion you liked too fukking bad eat a bag of dicks.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

his boxing endeavor was a total failure in terms of competitiveness sure he made money but if that's all he's in it for at this point then I would say his career has been lackluster.

It factually wasn't. He went to a split decision with the best at the time HW in the world and one round swing would have meant he won. Again your poor analytical skills are on display. Or more accurately, the obvious bias you have to only analyze under the strictest of microscopes the things that you want to fail. That's not objective testing. That's not finding evidence, it's looking for evidence to back your hypothesis

 

[Royce Greasy]

It factually wasn't. He went to a split decision with the best at the time HW in the world and one round swing would have meant he won. Again your poor analytical skills are on display. Or more accurately, the obvious bias you have to only analyze under the strictest of microscopes the things that you want to fail. That's not objective testing. That's not finding evidence, it's looking for evidence to back your hypothesis

Nah at the end of the day he's 0-2 as a boxer no one actually cares that he had a close fight especially after just getting KO'd by Joshua that's not good and has nothing to do with analytical skills lol.

He had a mediocre career the highlights are beating Blaydes(2), Rozenstruik, Gane that's it the rest are just old past it opponents and nobodies that's the truth. Now his career is pretty much over and he will most likely get beat by Renan Ferreira who is a much hungrier fighter that actually wants to be in there.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Nah at the end of the day he's 0-2 as a boxer no one actually cares that he had a close fight especially after just getting KO'd by Joshua that's not good and has nothing to do with analytical skills lol.

He had a mediocre career the highlights are beating Blaydes(2), Rozenstruik, Gane that's it the rest are just old past it opponents and nobodies that's the truth. Now his career is pretty much over and he will most likely get beat by Renan Ferreira who is a much hungrier fighter that actually wants to be in there.

saying Ngannou has a mediocre career just lacks any perspective or maybe it just means you do not know what "mediocre" means.

He's had a stellar career. Best heavyweight of his generation so literally can't be "mediocre". Venturing into boxing made him more relevant and topical than any MMA fighter during that time.

People definitely cared he had a close fight with Fury, hence why he was given a fight with Joshua. Pretty much everyone who followed MMA talked about both of Ngannou's boxing fights, despite MMA fans not knowing anything about boxing.

 

[Royce Greasy]

saying Ngannou has a mediocre career just lacks any perspective or maybe it just means you do not know what "mediocre" means.

He's had a stellar career. Best heavyweight of his generation so literally can't be "mediocre". Venturing into boxing made him more relevant and topical than any MMA fighter during that time.

People definitely cared he had a close fight with Fury, hence why he was given a fight with Joshua. Pretty much everyone who followed MMA talked about both of Ngannou's boxing fights, despite MMA fans not knowing anything about boxing.

If you think that's a stellar mma career I don't know what to tell you lol, I layed it all out Blaydes(2), Rozenstruik, Gane that's the the quality wins as a matter of fact his career is short and tbf its not totally his fault his opponents were only as good as what the division had to offer at the time but lets face it many of them are old or past it that's a fact, you actually gonna try to tell me that Arlovski and Overeem were legit opponents at the time Ngannou faced them and I don't give a shit about their rankings because the rankings are just UFC hype nothing more both those guys were way fukking past it.

Stipe the second time was past it and ever since that loss he hasn't fought been inactive what a joke, many UFC HW's have gotten by on beating past it fighters, Cain did this also KOing zombie Nogueira that''s nothing to brag about knowing all the head trauma he took
its UFC building up and overrating their guys I can see right through it. Fedor is one of the only guys I can think of that fought and beat ranked opponents in their primes, he rarely fought someone that was past it and sure he fought some low level opponents from time to time but it doesn't matter becuase he is so much more active than Cain or Francis that's the difference.

Lets take a look at current UFC HW division they have Tuivasa(Loss to Peter Graham), Jailton Almeida this guy is good on the ground but he is no Werdum or Nogueira hell couldn't even finish Lewis when he had all sorts of dominant positions, Derrick Lewis Past it, Alexander Volkov a good fighter but also fought way past it guys like Werdum at the end of his career also he got beat imo by Tim Johnson still though he is one of the best UFC has right now, Sergei Pavlovich is exciting but just has heavy hands and cracks mentally in big fights, Tom Aspinall is the best and not much to criticize about him he's the best right now, Curtis Blaydes is good fighter with limitations.

So that's the UFC HW division pretty crap honestly and laughable to think that this crop of guys is better than the Pride HW's or even the previous generation UFC HW's ridiculous.