Ngannou extremely difficult to work with?

[CJrider]

The UFC made ghe most useless interim title 5 month.Then he defended against Gane.
And after that he was injured and his contract ran out at the end of 2022.

Defending twice would have meant taking a big risk with his knee recovery by fighting in 2022. Or getting locked 5 more years with the UFC.

The interim title was a complete slap in the face and a joke, seeing as Ngannou was apparently happy to fight about 6 or 7 months after his fight, and they decided in 5 months they'd make the interim. They are both assholes, I just think that if he played company man, signed a contract, fought regularly as his injuries allow, they'd have been fine with a co-promotion if Fury was willing.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Fernand and Dana are well known problem people who never take blame for anything and constantly have issues with others. I'll side with the fighter here and not the fame hungry coach throwing petty shade or the greedy, self absorbed promoter who would do anything for a buck.

thank you.

and co-sign.

 

[Cooliox]

Since when has Dana been easy to work with? In the media where Dana can shape the narrative without ever being questioned, he's never wrong and always right.

Fernand was angling for the spotlight when he was coaching Francis and was more concerned about supposed loyalty and not Francis improving. Lopez went out of his way to shit on Francis at every opportunity in the media and even used Cyril as a pawn for his own agenda. Francis never spoke ill of him and instead stated he left to be his own man and get better as a fighter, going to a new camp and moving to the US.

Do I believe Francis is head strong, stubborn and determined which can offend some? I do. Do I think Ngannou has an incredible belief in himself along with the aforementioned, that got him out of the Salt mines and made him the Heavyweight Champion of the World? Yes. Do I think he's at fault in both of these instances? Some, but not much.

Fernand and Dana are well known problem people who never take blame for anything and constantly have issues with others. I'll side with the fighter here and not the fame hungry coach throwing petty shade or the greedy, self absorbed promoter who would do anything for a buck.

Whether he miscalculated his worth, he did nothing wrong. He stood up for what he believed in and asked for things back from the company that many probably should have before him. He has every right to take control of his career and make decisions on his own.

Well said

Francis is a good guy. I have never heard him speak ill of anyone


Dude literally fought for his life to get to where he is today. No other man should be able to tell him how much or how less he is worth. He didn't need money to get through life. He was dirt poor wearing torn clothes, no shoes. He still never lost spirit.

Power to Ngannou. Will be rooting for him wherever he fights. If he wants healthcare, he deserves health care.


Dana slandering fighters through the media isn't something new. He did it to GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones, Fedor... he's going to do it to Francis. Nothing new. And if you as the media do not play along, Dana bans you from UFC event. There's a reason his own mother does not love him: she said that Dana pulled a stunt on his own Grandmother when she was sick, saying he would fly her out for treatment and all,,, and just left her to get sick and pass away.

If he does this to his own family. No fighter is safe for sure. He just slapped his own wife in public. No hesitation.
Anyways. Dana is Dana. He is pettiness personified

 

[TheTickG]

Do you think Ngannou might be extremely difficult to work with?

It seems he keeps getting on everyone’s bad side. He got into with his former coach and after his coach tried to bury the hatchet, by saying they should be civil, Francis goes and cuss his former coach out.

“"What the f*** is that? Father to who? Screw him. I don't play that game. I know exactly what he's planning, he's not a son of s***. He's nothing,"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/othe...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Then, Ngannou gets into with Dana with his demands on contract negotiations, then eventually, he fired his manager or his manager quits, I don’t think it’s ever explained how Ngannou ended up representing himself.

And now Dana is saying how he doesn’t want Ngannou back in the UFC.

Anyone think that Ngannou behind the scenes might be extremely difficult to work with? He’s lost his former coach, his former manager and his former boss.

At some point you’d think the common link in all of these falling outs is Big Frank. I think when he cussed out his coach, it revealed a dark true side of Francis.

Yes.

But, I think UFC is trying to bring him back once he realizes his actual value.

 

[Sean_wongster_wongmastter]

Well said

Francis is a good guy. I have never heard him speak ill of anyone

Ummm... I literally posted the quote where he spoke ill of his former coach, you can hate his former coach and be on Ngannou's side in that fall out, but he definitely spoke ill of him in public.

“"What the f*** is that? Father to who? Screw him. I don't play that game. I know exactly what he's planning, he's not a son of s***. He's nothing,"

 

[daniel san]

A guy you are not working with is not "difficult to work with". That's just slave owner mentality that he should have an obligation to sign a contract with anyone. If he wants 1 billion per fight, his choice, his consequences to deal with.

As a UFC fighter, Ngannou has fulfilled his duties.

? So if I'm hired as a cleaner consultant and I all of a sudden demand $1 million monthly because I clean so damn good, I'm not difficult to work with because no one is forcing anyone to sign the dotted line? And if I simply quite, my former employee having an opinion on what I'm like to work with is slave owner mentality?

I'm not saying Ngannou is difficult to work with because I have no idea, but your post makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Kb7]

Well said

Francis is a good guy. I have never heard him speak ill of anyone


Dude literally fought for his life to get to where he is today. No other man should be able to tell him how much or how less he is worth. He didn't need money to get through life. He was dirt poor wearing torn clothes, no shoes. He still never lost spirit.

Power to Ngannou. Will be rooting for him wherever he fights. If he wants healthcare, he deserves health care.


Dana slandering fighters through the media isn't something new. He did it to GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones, Fedor... he's going to do it to Francis. Nothing new. And if you as the media do not play along, Dana bans you from UFC event. There's a reason his own mother does not love him: she said that Dana pulled a stunt on his own Grandmother when she was sick, saying he would fly her out for treatment and all,,, and just left her to get sick and pass away.

If he does this to his own family. No fighter is safe for sure. He just slapped his own wife in public. No hesitation.
Anyways. Dana is Dana. He is pettiness personified

He didn't need money to get through life, yet when he made something of himself via fighting & the UFC organization. He turns down 8Million+ And makes ridiculous demands with other orgs. Allegedly wants 30mil or whatever number it was.

He tasted first world advantages and now he's gotten greedy, he grew up less fortunate and other individuals in his position would have been content coming from where he came from to what he is now. He's gotten greedy and it looks like it isn't working out the way he thought it was going to work out by leaving the UFC.

 

[deadshot138]

He overestimated his value and the longer he's inactive, the less people will care about him

 

[SpamuraiSensei]

Ngannou got too greedy and it didn't pay off. Jones made Gane looked like an amateur and the UFC moved on. As time goes by Ngannou becomes increasingly irrelevant. Casuals move on quick.

 

[BangBang]

He didnt play the game well did he?!!!

 

[Wormwood]

If more proof was needed, here is Ngannou again being difficult and arguing with his boss at Johnny Legends Mitsubishi. What a POS.

Seems like Francis can be reasonable… they came to an agreement in the end..

 

[Afrikan]

Francis is just one of us stubborn African folks that feel they know their worth, and stick with it....even if it means passing up on things others would consider important. Flexibility is sometimes more important than just money.

He has enough money to chill. If for some reason he stopped fighting, he would have his health to enjoy his money or other ventures. He's done a good job networking, so he might continue to get gigs outside of fighting.... and worse case scenario there is Bellator (with maybe new owners who want to make a splash) or One FC.

I mean Cyborg is chillin in Bellator, even though she could still compete with..if not destroy....top women in the UFC.

 

[spinup]

Ngannou got too greedy and it didn't pay off. Jones made Gane looked like an amateur and the UFC moved on. As time goes by Ngannou becomes increasingly irrelevant. Casuals move on quick.

Yet if you look at threads talkings about HWs here, there will be more talking about Ngannou than Jones or Stipe.

 

[jooohnmatrix]

People who bleed the system living like a leech offf social welfare become incredibly entitled. I’m not surprised.

 

[LetThemBleed]

Whatever's he's doing he needs to fight soon, already been out well over a year, he doesn't step in either a boxing ring or octagon this year then by 2024 he'll be totally forgotten, don't understand why he doesn't agree to a deal with one of the other MMA promoters that allows him to make some money, albeit not as much as the UFC was seemingly offering, whilst still chasing a fight with one of the HW names in boxing. Wilder might be his best bet, biggest puncher in MMA versus biggest puncher in boxing is a fight you can sell. Fury would like demand a 80-20 split at minimum so you'd doubt Francis would make much more than what he was offered for the Jones fight, Wilder unless he gets beaten by someone other than Fury in the interim time period still has plenty of name value.

 

[Spidermine]

Well we've had Dana, Ferdinand Lopez, the BKFC president, and Scott Coker attest to the affirmative. These are all shady characters in one way or another. However, the odds of even competitors to Dana agreeing with him on Francis is extremely low imo. He's probably insisting way more than he worth.