Ngannou extremely difficult to work with?

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Do you think Ngannou might be extremely difficult to work with?

It seems he keeps getting on everyone’s bad side. He got into with his former coach and after his coach tried to bury the hatchet, by saying they should be civil, Francis goes and cuss his former coach out.

“"What the f*** is that? Father to who? Screw him. I don't play that game. I know exactly what he's planning, he's not a son of s***. He's nothing,"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/othe...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Then, Ngannou gets into with Dana with his demands on contract negotiations, then eventually, he fired his manager or his manager quits, I don’t think it’s ever explained how Ngannou ended up representing himself.

And now Dana is saying how he doesn’t want Ngannou back in the UFC.

Anyone think that Ngannou behind the scenes might be extremely difficult to work with? He’s lost his former coach, his former manager and his former boss.

At some point you’d think the common link in all of these falling outs is Big Frank. I think when he cussed out his coach, it revealed a dark true side of Francis.
 
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I think he just gets bad advice and doesn't know his worth and thinks he is a bigger draw than he is.
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Nice way of saying over inflated ego. Imagine telling Francis he can’t get a 50 million dollar payday and him getting mad then firing you. I feel like that’s probably what happened with his manager lol.
 
The whole Ford Escort thing really got into his head and he started believing his own hype thinking of himself as a major draw who brings in a lot of money for the promotion when the sum is greater than its individual parts as far as PPV goes.
 
Since when has Dana been easy to work with? In the media where Dana can shape the narrative without ever being questioned, he's never wrong and always right.

Fernand was angling for the spotlight when he was coaching Francis and was more concerned about supposed loyalty and not Francis improving. Lopez went out of his way to shit on Francis at every opportunity in the media and even used Cyril as a pawn for his own agenda. Francis never spoke ill of him and instead stated he left to be his own man and get better as a fighter, going to a new camp and moving to the US.

Do I believe Francis is head strong, stubborn and determined which can offend some? I do. Do I think Ngannou has an incredible belief in himself along with the aforementioned, that got him out of the Salt mines and made him the Heavyweight Champion of the World? Yes. Do I think he's at fault in both of these instances? Some, but not much.

Fernand and Dana are well known problem people who never take blame for anything and constantly have issues with others. I'll side with the fighter here and not the fame hungry coach throwing petty shade or the greedy, self absorbed promoter who would do anything for a buck.

Whether he miscalculated his worth, he did nothing wrong. He stood up for what he believed in and asked for things back from the company that many probably should have before him. He has every right to take control of his career and make decisions on his own.
 
Sounds like he has poor business sense and getting really bad advice from people around him. If he had a top notch manager, he would be making a lot more money and not sitting in a hotel room watching fights smiling thinking about what could’ve been.
 
He bet on himself and he also probably didn't do his due diligence beforehand. He seemingly over valued himself and worth on the open market. He also probably was full of shit regarding his fighter rights demands; especially if he actually was talking about doing business with BKFC
 
seanwongster said:
Do you think Ngannou might be extremely difficult to work with?

It seems he keeps getting on everyone’s bad side. He got into with his former coach and after his coach tried to bury the hatchet, by saying they should be civil, Francis goes and cuss his former coach out.

“"What the f*** is that? Father to who? Screw him. I don't play that game. I know exactly what he's planning, he's not a son of s***. He's nothing,"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/othe...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Then, Ngannou gets into with Dana with his demands on contract negotiations, then eventually, he fired his manager or his manager quits, I don’t think it’s ever explained how Ngannou ended up representing himself.

And now Dana is saying how he doesn’t want Ngannou back in the UFC.

Anyone think that Ngannou behind the scenes might be extremely difficult to work with? He’s lost his former coach, his former manager and his former boss.

At some point you’d think the common link in all of these falling outs is Big Frank. I think when he cussed out his coach, it revealed a dark true side of Francis.
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Fucking UFC shills.
 
too soon to say, I'll just say at high level negotiations, you gotta let it marinate at times until you get what you want, it's not going to happen overnight. You're negotiating for BIG amounts of money, it's not going to be easy.
 
Only one post by TS. Account created in 2023. And only viewing this thread. Title of thread is extremely biased.

We can assume he’s a shill paid by the UFC/Dana. The objective? To further maintain the negative narrative on Francis so that he will become a warning tale to fighters who want to ask for more money and/or seek greener pastures.
 
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RoyJonesJr said:
Im all for what Francis represents, but he's just overestimated his value

And for 8 mill a fight, unless he fights Tyson Fury or Wilder I don't see where else he gets that kinda money
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tyson is asking usyk for a 70-30 split, had a 80-20 split with dillian white...... ngannou is in the business with the wrong dude, a $30 million PPV with whyte only made dillian 6m, and is ngannou worth more than dillian whyte? I dont think so.
 
A guy you are not working with is not "difficult to work with". That's just slave owner mentality that he should have an obligation to sign a contract with anyone. If he wants 1 billion per fight, his choice, his consequences to deal with.

As a UFC fighter, Ngannou has fulfilled his duties.
 
It’s probably combination of both sides being hard to work with. It’s rare that Dana washes his hands of a UFC fighter because they are just too hard to work with. Only other fighter was probably Cyborg.
 
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