NFL Discussion, v43: Andrew Luck For Prez!!

[SportsBarGod]

They need a good QB coach to go there.

 

[KOQ24]

new thread

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=102364187#post102364187

 

[KrazyKanadian]

i dont want the bucs to draft either mariota or winston


id rather trade down and get more draft picks

Winston gonna be good.

Don't think Mariota will, but stranger things have certainly happened.

 

[jrams]

I believe the team he took over in Tampa was loaded already on both defense and offense left over from the Dungy era. Unless my memory is incorrect the Bucs had a top 10 defense all time (points given up) that season.

In reality Gruden's pretty much a career .500 head coach, regular season and playoffs. The only difference between him and Jeff Fisher is he won a SuperBowl.

Yes they were loaded. Point being Gruden had way more pressure on him coming into Tampa than anyone going to the 9ers. He was a hot shot young coach and they gave up 4 draft picks, $8 million, and just fired Dungy. It was Superbowl or bust.

None of it was a comment on how talented a coach he was.

 

[the ambush]

Fisher is a can and the king of mediocrity

Was it a fair comparison?

Fisher
162-147 (.524) regular season
5-6 playoffs

Gruden
95-81 (.540) regular season
5-4 playoffs

Yes they were loaded. Point being Gruden had way more pressure on him coming into Tampa than anyone going to the 9ers. He was a hot shot young coach and they gave up 4 draft picks, $8 million, and just fired Dungy. It was Superbowl or bust.

None of it was a comment on how talented a coach he was.

Point taken. I found the link. I knew the Bucs defense was incredible that year. According to the text, 'only giving up 12.2 PPG on defense when the league average was 21.7 that season'.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/articl...ses-in-history-seattle-seahawks-chicago-bears