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Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

    ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE Green Belt

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    Hi , i recently started weight training again, im wanting to pack on maybe 15-20 lbs

    im 5-10, and around 155-160 lbs

    heres my problems, i eat horrible and unhealthy, plus my knowledge of proper eating is very minimum at best

    what should i be eating?

    what supplements should i be taking?

    when it comes to creatine and whey gain, are these products what i need? to help me gain the weight?

    like i said before, ive never eaten healthy, but always stayed slim, so i need alot of help cleaning up my diet so i can make my workouts worthwile

    i tried using the stickies but they wont work, so if some of you more knowledgeable members could help it would be appreciated


    thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me
     
  2. supersudo

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    to sum up the entire forums into 3 sentences:

    For everyone:
    good brands of greens powder, fish oil (or flaxseed oil), fiber powder, multi-vitamin, and protein powder.. (i would say unrefined coconut oil as well, but it's really up to the buyer :wink: )

    For gaining:
    everything above plus eat more with more lifting

    For weight loss:
    everthing above but eat less and more cardio
     
  3. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

    ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE Green Belt

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    sweet...that answers my supps question

    how about eating?

    what should my daily food intake consist of?

    what types of food will provide me with the proper carbs,proteins,and so on...is there a chart or something i can read

    i know we learnt this when i was a kid...i guess i wasnt paying attention
     
  4. supersudo

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    to my knowledge.. it's best to eat nothing but foods "LOW (below 60)" on the glycemic index all day but post-workout to eat stuff "HIGH (above 60)"

    do a search on the glycemic index
     
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    low glycemic index are considered "complex carbs" that sustain blood sugar levels..

    and high GI are considered "simple carbs" that spike blood sugar levels..
     
  6. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

    ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE Green Belt

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    this might be a very stupid question

    but where do i do this search for glycemic index?

    here at sherdog or just a internet search?

    thanks for all your help
     
  7. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

    ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE Green Belt

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    ok...so eat food low in carbs all day

    and

    high in carbs directly after working out?

    how many meals should i be eating? and im planning on subbing some protein shakes for meals aswell...this is ok?
     
  8. supersudo

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    NO!!... low carbs and low glycemic index are 2 completely different things

    NEVER go on low carb diet.. u just lose muscle mass and strength that way..



    example: Brown rice (complex carb).. White rice (Simple carb)

    eat more complex carbs thru-out the day.. and then simple after workout
     
  9. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

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    ok...

    so im about to start living off brown rice

    what else?

    ive heard eggs and ww bread are also good

    how about pastas and other things that will help?

    i cant thank you enough, youve been a tremendous help
     
  10. supersudo

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    u can find all that out with a chart of the glycemic index.. google it
     
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    chuteboxwannabe your best bet is to read this forum every day for a week. Before i started readint his forum a couple weeks ago i know jack shit about good diet, supps or anything like that. All it takes is one week and you will have alot more info than you could ever get in this one thread. Im not tryin to be a dick im serious, what was stated above is only a fraction of the info you need to know. Just keep reading this forum and do searchs for things you want to learn more about and you will be set. However with that said, lift 3 times a week and lift heavy, also eat a ton of chicken, beef, potatoes, veggies and things like that. Generaly the whole meat and potatoes diet is good for gaining weight. Start eating healthy and eat 5 or 6 times a day, start lifting as well. Once you learn a little bit more from reading on this board then look into some supplements.
     
  12. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

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    well im actually looking for supps to make up for the loss of my eating habits

    you see i dont eat veggies...so i need to supp it with something else

    i eat chicken,meat andlots of rice and eggs...but after that my healthy food intake isnt that good

    i agree with reading this board...ive learned more in the last 2 days than i ever coulda imagined


    thanks for the pointers guys
     
  13. supersudo

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    dont eat veggies?... this'll help..

    http://www.vitacost.com/GardenofLifePerfectFoodSuperGreenFormula-300UltrazorbeCaplets/

    my friend is the same way.. he takes this in place of eating real veggies... plus this is one of the best greens powder formulas in pill form.. 2mo. supply.. Garden of Life is a very reputable brand and all their formulas are top-notch... however they're a bit pricey..
     
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    If you don't eat veggies, you should definately be getting something in place of them. Go to Puritan's Pride (puritanspride.com) and order some of the "Life's Greens". It is a powder which is better than the tablets that you can get other places. Not only will this product give you what you are missing from not eating veggies, it is packed with anti-oxidants, something everyone needs but athletes need more of because of the stress they put on their bodies. Nothing is going to be as good as eating fresh vegetables, but its better than nothing.
    This stuff tastes like ass, so you can mix it with your protien shake. The best protien shake ive found is ISOPURE. I like the isopure zero carb, it has 50 grams of very high quality whey protien, as well as tons of amino acids. ISOPURE can be quite expensive so you can either shop for it online or go to GNC and get a gold card. You can save 20% the first seven days of the month.
    Most importantly, take a multivitamin. Not over the counter crap either, buy a high quality TIME RELEASED vitamin. GNC has a good vitamin, its called MegaMen. (Yes i know i am plugging GNC, not only because I work there, but because the vitamin is superior to others on the market.)
    Long story short:
    1) Eat a time relased multivitamin every day
    2) Drink as much water as your body will hold
    3) High quality Protien shake with amino acids
    4) Drink green powder
    5) Creatine and Nitric Oxide will come into play later, get used to the basics first. Once you get in the habit of doing the first 4, gradually add on. If you start everything at once (a) you will go broke very quickly (b) odd are you are going to quit because you are constantly eating something or drinking something
     
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    the thing i love about puritan's pride (www.puritan.com) is there "GREEN SOURCE" multi-vitamin tablets.. however, their "LIFE's GREENS" is a very common formula.. exactly the same as

    http://www.vitacost.com/AmericanHealthMoreThanAGreensPowder/
    and
    http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCologyProGreens/

    and yes.. that formula tastes like shit!.. that's why i'm looking into and trying out other formulas..

    however, Garden of Life's Super Green Formula still stands as one of the best formulas out there IMO.. pill or powdered form..
     
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    That's great advice. Also, the green superfoods will help out in the veggie department, but I would suggest that you just buckle down and start eating your veggies, too. Is there any particular reason you don't eat them, or is it just a matter of taste? Try mixing in some fresh vegetables in with some diced chicken and make a stir-fry to throw over your brown rice.
     
  17. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

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    excellent

    thanks for all the info guys

    im gonna continue reading....see what i can leanr

    once again...thanks
     
  18. ChUtEBoXWaNnAbE

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    you know what...there isnt a specific reason why i dont eat veggies...now that i think of it

    ive just never ate them, never was forced to

    i wish my parents had been strict on me with that stuff


    sidenote: how long does it take if i order something online from these sites you guys are plugging? around how long?

    cause i need to get at this stuff ASAP...no time like the present

    and im not concerned with quitting...ive always had a never give up attitude...thats prob what got me in so much trouble as a young fellow

    not too mention im quitting smoking so i can become healthy again...so there will be no QUITTING my weight training or diet

    Guys i cant thank ya`ll enough, youve been very helpful
     
  19. joey roastbeef

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    Is an anti oxidant the same or similar to the green formula stuff. i dont always eat my vegtables but i take anti oxidants. Also, would eating 5-6 meals opposed to 3 larger meals boost your metabolism, burn more calories, and cause you to lose weight?
     
  20. Ted-P

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    15-20 pounds of what?
     

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