New to mma

[dcm123]

Hi everyone.
Just registered for this site and been trying t0 read througth the thousands of posts on here, A lot of useful information but not enougth hours in the day to get through it all. Just wanted some advice from all you experienced people out there.
I have recently stared martial arts trainings again after a did karate/kick boxing at the ages of 15-18. I am 23 now and not particulary fit. I am 5'11" and weigh about 170 lb.
I am doing predominately kick boxing and striking training just 2 hours once a week. I am intended to do BJJ and grappling when i actually get a bit fitter. Which brings me onto my question. To get a good overall fitness for mma where is a good place to start?
I have been doing free weights and some cardio but no proper routine. I want to train hard and actually see some results, so any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Ziltoid]

*Gasp*

You have spent many hours and read through thousands of posts and you havent read any threads on training? Even worse...you havent read the FAQ??!! Im just playing with you. Seriously though...you should really check out the FAQ. I myself love following RossTraining routines. They are killer and will get you into fight shape big time. Go check it out...you wont be sorry!

 

[dcm123]

yeah maybe a look a bit closer at that faq thread thanks. A lot of the condtioning methods seem pretty intense, ill just have to work my way up to it. Is it a common idea that distance running or low/medium intensity cardio is pointless?
cheers for the reply

 

[Ziltoid]

No. I wouldnt say its pointless. Though HIIT seems to burn off fat for longer periods of time, even after workouts rather than joggin long distance. I like to mix everything up. Not just stick to one thing. Ill do long distance running at a slower pace...sprints at short paces, etc.

 

[dcm123]

ok that was my thoughts really. Mix up some distance low intensity stuff with some some sprints. Do you personally do a lot of strength work on your legs? Did a session with some top class muay thai guys and they had some hard kicks. got the bruises a week after to prove it. Do you think its more benificial to do a lot of weight training or will interval training and actually kicking build stronger legs. I guess its just best to do a routine that includes it all.

MMA seems to have exploded in popularity over here, even people from a small area where i live are very skilled and multi disciplined. Watching videos of them in amateur mma competions just shows me how far i will have to go and how hard i will have to train to stand a chance of competing my self (in the future). Thanks for your time, i'll be doing a lot more browsing over all the threads and info available on here.

 

[Ziltoid]

Yeah, you should include a bunch of stuff for your kicking power. I dont know about running and how it effects your kicking strength though...maybe someone else can answer that. Obviosly though...kicking is more core so the more you work your core...the harder of an impact your gonna have on your kicks. You should def check out the Strength and Power FAQ and the Diet and Supplement FAQ. I myself like to do squats...pistols...plyometrics and some other leg work from Rosstraining.

 

[penguinsfan]

No. I wouldnt say its pointless. Though HIIT seems to burn off fat for longer periods of time, even after workouts rather than joggin long distance. I like to mix everything up. Not just stick to one thing. Ill do long distance running at a slower pace...sprints at short paces, etc.

I know the basic concept of HIIT is interval training, but is there a SPECIFIC program that everyone is following? I used to do a 20 minute routine straight out of Bill Phillip's Body For Life, but now I just do one steady hour at around 165-170 heartrate.

 

[penguinsfan]

Yeah, you should include a bunch of stuff for your kicking power. I dont know about running and how it effects your kicking strength though...maybe someone else can answer that. Obviosly though...kicking is more core so the more you work your core...the harder of an impact your gonna have on your kicks. You should def check out the Strength and Power FAQ and the Diet and Supplement FAQ. I myself like to do squats...pistols...plyometrics and some other leg work from Rosstraining.

Good advice. From my limited time in MMA, I can tell kicking is very multi-dimensional in its form. For starters, I can kick about waist high, but that is my MAXIMUM, not my comfortable range. Yes, that is pathetic, but I'm working on it. I can't get nearly the power behind my waist-high kicks as i can my knee-high kicks, because I'm not a balanced and my core doesn't synchronize the motion as well outside of the comfort zone. No one would ever through a kick at maximum height in a fight, because he wouldn't have ideal balance.

Accuracy, leg strength, core strength, flexibility, balance, and footwork are all going to determine how hard the final impact is.

 

[penguinsfan]

I myself love following RossTraining routines. They are killer and will get you into fight shape big time. Go check it out...you wont be sorry!

Any idea how they compare to the Bas Rutten conditioning series?