Elections New poll shows Biden falling badly, three-way tie for Democratic lead

[VivaRevolution]

New poll shows Biden falling badly, three-way tie for Democratic lead


Joe Biden's support in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination is slipping, according to a new survey from Monmouth University Poll that shows the former vice president dropping below 20 percent.

The survey showed Biden with support from 19 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters nationally, a double-digit decline from Monmouth's most recent poll in June when he led the pack with 32 percent.

Now, the dynamics have changed, according to the Monmouth survey. Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), the primary field's top progressive candidates, are each at 20 percent, putting them in a statistical tie with Biden and indicating a tightening three-way race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...g-badly-three-way-tie-for-democratic-lead?amp







Poor Joe Biden. He should have listened to Obama.

Bernie's gonna win, Bernie's gonna win.

Today, indeed, was a good day.

Discuss.......

 

[Sketch]

Biden will be the nomination and if Bernie gets near the nomination they will sweep him under the bus again like last time.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Biden will be the nomination and if Bernie gets near the nomination they will sweep him under the bus again like last time.

Biden should just drop out now. From 42% to 19%.

Must feel bad man, feel real bad.

 

[Trotsky]

Important to note and remember that this poll is still an outlier, even if the polling averages and trending toward this sort of distribution. But Biden is still ahead of Sanders/Warren by 5-10 points in most other polls.

Bernie Sanders is the best candidate, has the best policies, and is the best person in this race. However, at this point, it's still necessary to remind people of that.

 

[MusterX]

Unless something drastic happens to improve one of the Democratic candidates they are in for a second loss to Trump. As much as people hate Trump he is in good shape to be competitive in his re-election bid. The real problem, as usual, is that both sides of the aisle look like steaming refuse.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Important to note and remember that this poll is still an outlier, even if the polling averages and trending toward this sort of distribution. But Biden is still ahead of Sanders/Warren by 5-10 points in most other polls.

Bernie Sanders is the best candidate, has the best policies, and is the best person in this race. However, at this point, it's still necessary to remind people of that.

I disagree. What we should be reminding people of is the polling from Iowa, NH, SC, and Nevada, as the results from those states will largely shape the rest of the election.

The fact that Biden is dropping in national polls doesn't really matter.

It does matter that he is dropping in Iowa and New Hampshire. I bet he is still leading in SC. That matters too. I haven't even seen real polling on California and Texas.

 

[Richie Madano]

Bernie's gonna win, Bernie's gonna win.

 

[xcvbn]

Important to note and remember that this poll is still an outlier, even if the polling averages and trending toward this sort of distribution. But Biden is still ahead of Sanders/Warren by 5-10 points in most other polls.

Bernie Sanders is the best candidate, has the best policies, and is the best person in this race. However, at this point, it's still necessary to remind people of that.

God, you're such a nob.

"Yesh, well, first of all Big Bernie fan here but second and most importantly he's still a radical long shot"

 

[IGIT]

New poll shows Biden falling badly, three-way tie for Democratic lead


Joe Biden's support in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination is slipping, according to a new survey from Monmouth University Poll that shows the former vice president dropping below 20 percent.

The survey showed Biden with support from 19 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters nationally, a double-digit decline from Monmouth's most recent poll in June when he led the pack with 32 percent.

Now, the dynamics have changed, according to the Monmouth survey. Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), the primary field's top progressive candidates, are each at 20 percent, putting them in a statistical tie with Biden and indicating a tightening three-way race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/458833-new-poll-shows-biden-falling-badly-three-way-tie-for-democratic-lead?amp







Poor Joe Biden. He should have listened to Obama.

Bernie's gonna win, Bernie's gonna win.

Today, indeed, was a good day.

Discuss.......

heya Viva,

i was reading the comments section in the NYT regarding this poll.

it was kinda distressing how often i read, "if its not Biden and we end up with either Warren or Bernie, i'm either sitting it out or, reluctantly, voting for Trump".

i found that worrisome. is this sentiment real?

- IGIT

 

[xcvbn]

I disagree. What we should be reminding people of is the polling from Iowa, NH, SC, and Nevada, as the results from those states will largely shape the rest of the election.

The fact that Biden is dropping in national polls doesn't really matter.

It does matter that he is dropping in Iowa and New Hampshire. I bet he is still leading in SC. That matters too. I haven't even seen real polling on California and Texas.

Do not forget corporate Dem plan B: split the progressive vote, force a contested convention(no candidate secures >50% of delegates, insert corrupted soulless superdelegates to veto Bernie's primary win

 

[VivaRevolution]

Unless something drastic happens to improve one of the Democratic candidates they are in for a second loss to Trump. As much as people hate Trump he is in good shape to be competitive in his re-election bid. The real problem, as usual, is that both sides of the aisle look like steaming refuse.

We are going to have dueling populists for the first time in this country since before I was alive.

Whether it is Bernie or Warren, it is going to be about Trump and a economic progressive arguing about who is the actual populist.

They will still pander to their ID politics on both sides, but the election will be about populism, and authenticity. I feel real good about the Dems chances on that battle ground.

 

[xcvbn]

heya Viva,

i was reading the comments section in the NYT regarding this poll.

it was kinda distressing how often i read, "if its not Biden and we end up with either Warren or Bernie, i'm either sitting it out or, reluctantly, voting for Trump".

i found that worrisome. is this sentiment real?

- IGIT

You're gonna have to ask @Jack V Savage and @Fawlty for their reasoning behind those comments

But really, if you take random comments section as proof of anything you're on a sure fire path to being disinformed. Paid trolls/actual bots are a very real and efficient tool that companies and political campaigns use to sway opinion.

 

[VivaRevolution]

heya Viva,

i was reading the comments section in the NYT regarding this poll.

it was kinda distressing how often i read, "if its not Biden and we end up with either Warren or Bernie, i'm either sitting it out or, reluctantly, voting for Trump".

i found that worrisome. is this sentiment real?

- IGIT

We will see. I'm not worried about it. TDS is real, and Biden supporters seem to suffer from it the most.

 

[IGIT]

You're gonna have to ask @Jack V Savage and @Fawlty for their reasoning behind those comments

But really, if you take random comments section as proof of anything you're on a sure fire path to being disinformed. Paid trolls/actual bots are a very real and efficient tool that companies and political campaigns use to sway opinion.

hi xcvbn,

Maybe.

Still though, I think centrists are real....I think blue dog Democrats aren’t a figment of my imagination.

I was a little surprised, that’s all.

I do know that there were progressives who sat out in 2016. I’m not imagining this, it happened. Isn’t it possible that the centrists also have the capability of sitting out an election?

-IGIT

 

[Trotsky]

I disagree. What we should be reminding people of is the polling from Iowa, NH, SC, and Nevada, as the results from those states will largely shape the rest of the election.

The fact that Biden is dropping in national polls doesn't really matter.

It does matter that he is dropping in Iowa and New Hampshire. I bet he is still leading in SC. That matters too. I haven't even seen real polling on California and Texas.

Just curious, how would you estimate the current odds for each candidate?

God, you're such a nob.

"Yesh, well, first of all Big Bernie fan here but second and most importantly he's still a radical long shot"

I prefer to be realistic about my goals instead of ignorantly believing they are imminent and then getting hysterical when faced with reality or people that recognize it. And, no, he's clearly the second most likely nominee at the moment and has the incalculable advantage of having by far the most enthusiastic, dedicated, and robust grassroots movement. Far from "a radical long shot," whatever that means.

And I believe you mean "knob," unless you're meaning to say that I am "one in a superior position in life," in which case thank you. Or "a jack of the same suit as the starter in cribbage that scores one point for the holder," in which case I don't play.

 

[VivaRevolution]

hi xcvbn,

Maybe.

Still though, I think centrists are real....I think blue dog Democrats aren’t a figment of my imagination.

I was a little surprised, that’s all.

I do know that there were progressives who sat out in 2016. I’m not imagining this, it happened. Isn’t it possible that the centrists also have the capability of sitting out an election?

-IGIT

Sure, just like many left the Republican party over Trump. The key is generating new voters. If you can win 2% of the 50% that don't vote, it easily wipes out the never-insert politicians name here' vote.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Just curious, how would you estimate the current odds for each candidate?



I prefer to be realistic about my goals instead of ignorantly believing they are imminent and then getting hysterical when faced with reality or people that recognize it. And, no, he's clearly the second most likely nominee at the moment and has the incalculable advantage of having by far the most enthusiastic, dedicated, and robust grassroots movement. Far from "a radical long shot," whatever that means.

And I believe you mean "knob," unless you're meaning to say that I am "one in a superior position in life," in which case thank you. Or "a jack of the same suit as the starter in cribbage that scores one point for the holder," in which case I don't play.

Warren 49, Bernie 49, Biden 2.

Not joking. He isn't trying to brand himself as a populist, and I think that makes him DOA.

 

[andnowweknow]

Biden has no chance to be the nominee...we're a year out. Trump will lose in a landslide a garden hose, it doesn't really matter. Republicans don't even like him.

 

[xcvbn]

I prefer to be realistic about my goals instead of ignorantly believing they are imminent and then getting hysterical when faced with reality or people that recognize it. And, no, he's clearly the second most likely nominee at the moment and has the incalculable advantage of having by far the most enthusiastic, dedicated, and robust grassroots movement. Far from "a radical long shot," whatever that means.

Exactly what are your goals? At the moment it seems to be to push centrist propaganda.

 

[IGIT]

Sure, just like many left the Republican party over Trump. The key is generating new voters. If you can win 2% of the 50% that don't vote, it easily wipes out the never-insert politicians name here' vote.

‘Evening Viva,

I’m just getting slightly nervous, Viva, that’s all.

- IGIT