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New gun laws in Georgia

Farmer Br0wn said:
Forgive my acronym ignorance, what dose SSM mean?
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Same sex marriage. I should also have added to my list of social issues my stance on drugs - I don't think people should go to jail for them.
 
Georgia would be one of the last federalized states too, go figure
 
At least they started off with some laws but work is needed to discipline the mental thought process behind guns. You can create countless laws but they won't matter if the sole purpose of the weapon has a universal interpretation cemented in the minds of those that have them. It's like counting 1,2,3, successive numbers and letters people understand. We need a definitive yet seamless integration of rules which everyone can remember as easily as A, B, C.
 
If you try and tell people in Georgia they cannot have guns, you forfeit your right to ever tel anyone else they have no common sense or that they are being a dumbass.
 
This law so is restrictive and affront to the 3rd amendment (not sure what one it is), b/c students are still not allowed to carry guns in school!!!!

Fucking outrage BS liberal Georgians.
 
I support conceal and carry. But I cannot even fathom how anyone could think allowing firearms in bars is a good idea. What the fuck.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
I'm loving the pro-gun law push in this country right now.
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Its pretty interesting to me. The left is winning or has won on many social issues but gun control is one where they have not only lost but are continuing to lose and lose pretty badly save for a few areas like NY. I read somewhere that a Pew poll on US opinions on guns had support for gun control at roughly 50% down from 67% in 2000. I think a lot of it has to do with people being desensitized to guns or even glorifying them. Also we're a bit removed from the crime wave of the 90s.
HIMBOB said:
I personally don't see a need for citizens to protect themselves from a tyranical government when they are in schools, bars and churches.

Therefore I don't see this as a 2nd amendment thing, unless there is some bit in there about gun being needed for self defence from other citizens.

So is there another part of the constitution that covers this?
Honest question.
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For one, the second amendment has been interpreted in the last few decades as an individual right to self defense so tyrannical governments have nothing at all to do with this. Second, because its a right the onus is on the government to explain why a restriction is necessary, not on the citizenry to justify carrying. At least that's how I see it.
 
A Psych Major said:
Its pretty interesting to me. The left is winning or has won on many social issues but gun control is one where they have not only lost but are continuing to lose and lose pretty badly save for a few areas like NY. I read somewhere that a Pew poll on US opinions on guns had support for gun control at roughly 50% down from 67% in 2000. I think a lot of it has to do with people being desensitized to guns or even glorifying them. Also we're a bit removed from the crime wave of the 90s.
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I'm not sure you can say that strict gun control is a blanket issue for Democrats. Many support the 2nd amendment and really most of the gun control bills have been very mild (which don't get full support from other Democrats anyway).

Many liberals I know (and I'm from NY), including myself, are fine with people owning guns, or they just don't give a shit either way. It's not like SSM or abortion where liberals are pretty much across the board pro-choice and support SSM. To me, left leaning folks support the 2nd amendment and want some gun control laws while right leaning folks wouldn't support a background check for bazookas.

IMO, gun control or opposition to it rather, is just a distraction from real issues. It is disturbing how much (and how many) people love guns, but hey, it's ok with me, just bizarre.
 
Georgia sucks anyhow. Southern states could bring in considerable revenue through tourism were they not so backward and prone to such reactionary nonsense.
 
jehosafats said:
Georgia sucks anyhow. Southern states could bring in considerable revenue through tourism were they not so backward and prone to such reactionary nonsense.
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Yea I can tell you don
 
I live in the south. They can make a lot more, but they have a reputation for backwardness and don't seem to care.
 
kpt018 said:
I'm not sure you can say that strict gun control is a blanket issue for Democrats. Many support the 2nd amendment and really most of the gun control bills have been very mild (which don't get full support from other Democrats anyway).

Many liberals I know (and I'm from NY), including myself, are fine with people owning guns, or they just don't give a shit either way. It's not like SSM or abortion where liberals are pretty much across the board pro-choice and support SSM. To me, left leaning folks support the 2nd amendment and want some gun control laws while right leaning folks wouldn't support a background check for bazookas.

IMO, gun control or opposition to it rather, is just a distraction from real issues. It is disturbing how much (and how many) people love guns, but hey, it's ok with me, just bizarre.
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Its not a blanket issue for Democrats partly because its a losing issue. You do have a point though, it seems that there are a few gun control fanatics on the left who never miss a chance to push it but they don't get that much support while on the right you have the crazies as well but more support from right of center people and even some support from people who are generally left leaning like myself.

Its sort of like the inverse of some other issues like teaching evolution in schools. Its only really an issue in bumfuck counties across the country but I could never imagine a Presidential candidate openly denying evolution and promising to really push creationism in schools even winning a Republican primary. Obama clearly supports some gun control measures but I don't remember him ever promising any while campaigning for president.
 
A Psych Major said:
Its not a blanket issue for Democrats partly because its a losing issue. You do have a point though, it seems that there are a few gun control fanatics on the left who never miss a chance to push it but they don't get that much support while on the right you have the crazies as well but more support from right of center people and even some support from people who are generally left leaning like myself.

Its sort of like the inverse of some other issues like teaching evolution in schools. Its only really an issue in bumfuck counties across the country but I could never imagine a Presidential candidate openly denying evolution and promising to really push creationism in schools even winning a Republican primary. Obama clearly supports some gun control measures but I don't remember him ever promising any while campaigning for president.
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Yeah, I just don't think it's one of those issues that Democrats care deeply about, generally speaking. Like you said, there are some that do make it an issue, but it's not across the board.

I don't think it would be that unlikely for an evolution denier to win the Republican primary. Santorum, Bachmann and Rick Perry come to mind as recent examples (both lead at different points), I know there are more. I think Romney was way too smart for that, but I don't think it's an issue that would keep Republicans from voting for a candidate. The party is so fucked up I don't think you can give an honest opinion that the bible is wrong and the earth is billions of years old, not thousands.

That kind of idiocy from a Democrat contender would be a major hurdle, if not insurmountable, IMO.
 
kpt018 said:
I'm not sure you can say that strict gun control is a blanket issue for Democrats. Many support the 2nd amendment and really most of the gun control bills have been very mild (which don't get full support from other Democrats anyway).
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I probably read it somewhere but ultimately I think it is an urban-rural divide more than anything else, and that divide extends through the democratic party.
This divide makes sense too.
 
kpt018 said:
Yeah, I just don't think it's one of those issues that Democrats care deeply about, generally speaking. Like you said, there are some that do make it an issue, but it's not across the board.
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How much of that is because its a losing issue in many parts of the country? The assault weapons ban is in their national platform but its really not something that comes up unless some white people get shot up by a scary looking gun.
I don't think it would be that unlikely for an evolution denier to win the Republican primary. Santorum, Bachmann and Rick Perry come to mind as recent examples (both lead at different points), I know there are more. I think Romney was way too smart for that, but I don't think it's an issue that would keep Republicans from voting for a candidate. The party is so fucked up I don't think you can give an honest opinion that the bible is wrong and the earth is billions of years old, not thousands.
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Bachmann and Rick Perry weren't even close iirc despite being pushed real hard by FOX news and I don't recall any of them saying they would actively push for creationism in schools(though I have a feeling Perry might've). Santorum was the most successful of the three and I don't remember him ever mentioning including creationism in schools during his campaign.
That kind of idiocy from a Democrat contender would be a major hurdle, if not insurmountable, IMO.
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Definitely.
 
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