Elections Nazi Tattoo on Maine Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Graham Platner

KnightTemplar said:
Rohm was killed because of his refusal to go along with Hitler's plans. Rohm commanded the SA(Storm Troopers)which at the time of his death was almost a million strong. The regular German Army, who's support Hitler needed, regarded them as potential rivals and wanted the SA crushed.

Hitler and many other Nazis despised homosexuals, but that wasn't the reason for the Night of the Long Knives. In fact, even after he'd personally arrested Rohm while he was in bed with a young man, Hitler still regarded him as a friend. He was initially reluctant to have Rohm executed, and had to be talked into it by Goering and Himmler.
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The SA was over 3 million in 1934. Rohm wanted to merge the SA with the Reichswehr and wanted to lead that force. The SA were undisciplined thugs and had become more of a liability. This all was a threat to Hitler’s power.
 
DoctorTaco said:
I’m willing to believe he got the tattoo without knowing what it meant, but there’s no way he had it for nearly 20 years without somebody telling him what it meant.
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Why are you willing to believe that? I bet you knew what that was when you were a kid .
 
DoctorTaco said:
I’m willing to believe he got the tattoo without knowing what it meant, but there’s no way he had it for nearly 20 years without somebody telling him what it meant.
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"Hey babe....that tattoo..........it's kind of like..."

"Well, you're kind of like your mother always complaining!"

"I knew you would go there."
 
Source said:
The SA was over 3 million in 1934. Rohm wanted to merge the SA with the Reichswehr and wanted to lead that force. The SA were undisciplined thugs and had become more of a liability. This all was a threat to Hitler’s power.
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Exactly. Hitler needed the Heer far more than he did the Sturmabeteiling. The German Army were professional soldiers. While most of the SA had served in the Great War, they were undisciplined thugs by comparison. Good enough for brawling in the streets, but not for invading whole nations.

Also, Rohm's desire for a socialist revolution completely unacceptable to the major corporations who's financial backing was important to Hitler.
 
DoctorTaco said:
I’m willing to believe he got the tattoo without knowing what it meant, but there’s no way he had it for nearly 20 years without somebody telling him what it meant.
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Great interview with Graham and his mom about his upbringing and his entry into the Marine Corps. Sherdog should like this one he was Maine's state wrestling champion in high school. You can learn more about him as a person then from a reddit post or likely Palentir dug up op research on him. This could be the first test case so extensive using AI from possibly from Palentir to pick comments about him from 5 to 18 years ago.

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t’s 3:58 p.m. on Wednesday afternoon, and Graham Platner’s campaign is sending me shirtless photos. I’m about to drive an hour to Ogunquit, Maine to attend Platner’s first town hall since the surfacing of unsavory and offensive deleted Reddit posts kicked off a week of tumultuous headlines for the oyster farmer turned politician, the Bernie Sanders–anointed Democratic front-runner in the senate race to unseat Susan Collins. And in this case, sending half-naked photos to a journalist isn’t the latest scandal—it’s fact-checking backup.

In the two days since Platner’s campaign revealed that, for years, the candidate had a chest tattoo that starkly resembled a “Totenkopf” used in SS insignia and neo-Nazi iconography, the story has lived several online lives. By the time Platner spoke to me about it Wednesday morning, he had already gotten the tattoo covered with a Celtic knot and a dog. In a video posted that day to his campaign Instagram, Platner once again claimed that he only recently learned of the tattoo’s “stark resemblance to a symbol that is used by neo-Nazis,” and that “the idea that I’ve been going around with something like that utterly horrifies me.” The controversy puts a fine point on questions of “cancellation” and accountability that the left has been grappling with for years. In the comments, a tattoo artist and 2023 Acadia National Park artist in residence named Mischa Ylva Ostberg, who uses the pronouns they/them, took credit for the cover-up, writing, “People are capable of change, reflection, and growth. I know his character because he plays a vital role in my small community everyday.”

But in other corners of the internet, the cover-up spawned more controversy. On Bluesky and X, users debated whether the new tattoo might also have neo-Nazi connotations—white supremacists having coopted various runic symbols—and pointed out that a different tattoo, partially visible in an image of Platner from a local news interview, included the numbers 1919. Online sleuths wondered if this could be code for “SS,” S being the 19th letter of the alphabet—but Platner’s full tattoo, a photo of which his campaign shared with Vanity Fair and other outlets, tells a different story. The full picture shows a mountain overlaying crossed pick-axes with the letters TFC, an abbreviation for the Appalachian Mountain Club’s professional White Mountain trail crew (“Trail Fucking Crew”). The tattoo also includes two years: 2002 (when Platner worked the trails) and 1919 (the date the Mountain Club founded its first crew). Amid the tattoo turmoil, the Advocate ran a story looking back at more posts Platner wrote between 2016 and 2021, which “include homophobic slurs, anti-LGBTQ+ jokes, and sexually explicit stories denigrating gay men.” Platner apologized for the posts, calling them the “indefensible” product of having “talked a lot of shit on the internet,” and saying that he had testified earlier this year at a local school board meeting in defense of protection policy for LGBTQ+ students.

Around 600 people turned out for Platner’s town hall in Ogunquit, population 1,577; many of them traversed rainbow crosswalks on their way into the town’s Leavitt Theater. A torrential downpour gave way to a golden sunset. As the crowd filed into the 500-seat theater and its overflow areas, country musician Griffin William Sherry sang and played guitar, including a song called “We Will Fight”—which he said he’d written for his wife on June 25, 2022, the day after the Supreme Court’s Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision.

Soon, Platner’s mother, restaurant owner and former DNC delegate Leslie Harlow, took the mic. It was her first time at one of Platner’s town halls. “Geez, Ma,” she joked, imagining her son’s response. “We’ve been doing this for a month. What?” She shared stories of Platner’s upbringing, including his parents’ dismay when he told them, following his high school graduation at the onset of the Iraq War, that he had enlisted. With visible emotion, she described how disappointed she was to see politicians fail to show up to Camp Lejeune, the Marine Corps Base in North Carolina where families could visit servicepeople between deployments.

“Applause for my mother,” Platner said as he took the stage, alluding to his tough week by saying that even throughout “struggles and challenges,” his parents had always stood by him. “I went from being a communist on Thursday to a Nazi on Monday,” Platner said, to laughter. “If anybody’s done any of the reading, that’s a rather hard political trajectory to navigate.” He then addressed the tattoo more seriously, and acknowledged there are things in his past he isn’t proud of. “And now,” he said, “I would like to get back to talking about wealth inequality and Medicare for all.”

Platner is a powerful, straightforward speaker, preaching about a future in which tax dollars go to community support rather than “funding somebody else’s genocide,” and repeatedly emphasizing the importance of organizing. He promised to remain accessible: “I think we’ve held 25 more town halls than Susan Collins has since Bill Clinton was president.” He drew a line between Democratic Party leaders and downballot Democrats, as well as the party’s voters, saying that “if the party was run by the people that were in it, it would be the party you want it to be.”
Following his speech, Platner picked questions haphazardly from the crowd, kicking off with one about his recent controversies. The questioner noted, as Platner had in our conversation that morning, that the surfacing of oppo research against him correlated with Maine governor Janet Mills entering the senate race. (A new poll, released Thursday, has Platner leading Mills substantially, by a margin of 58% of Maine Democratic primary voters for Platner to 24% for Mills.) “I don’t want to minimize” his past words, Platner said, “but I will just say the machine is turned on because it is scared, the machine has been turned on because they feel threatened.” (Mills didn’t respond to VF’s Wednesday request for comment.)



Questions about public education and fighting misinformation elicited responses about Platner’s wife, a public school teacher of 15 years, and governmental apathy. (He asked a rhetorical question about whether Americans born after 9/11 have seen any good things come from the government, eliciting the only dissent I heard during the town hall: “We elected Obama,” a woman behind me muttered.)



Filing out of the auditorium, I found myself walking beside Platner’s mom, who agreed to an impromptu interview in the foyer. She described the past week as “painful,” saying it “brought up a lot of this past that as his mother I shared with him—but also we had had such resolution about everything and everybody moving forward. So it was just sort of like this rogue wave that moved back in.” She said in recent years, she and others had encouraged her son to run for legislature. What was the tipping point? “He’s always been a Bernie fan,” Harlow said. She also alluded to conversations with coalition-builders like Jason Shedlock, president of the Southern Maine Labor Council, who participated in the search for a Democratic candidate to take on Collins, as well as Platner’s now advisers Morris Katz and Joe Calvello. “Graham also was a Maine state wrestling champion in high school. And when you think about the philosophy and dynamics of what wrestling is, it’s a team, but it’s an individual sport,” she said. In this political fight, “He’s on the mat by himself—and especially this week with everything that happened. But he’s also on a team.”
 
Don't really care, but the left shit themselves about a raised arm, so they should be up in arms about this.

Of course they aren't, but we are far beyond the point of leftists being hypocrites. They know they are and real americans know they are, calling it out doesn't matter. They aren't doing it on accident.
 
DoctorTaco said:
Maybe, but I grew up in the punk scene and keeping track of Nazi shit was part of our MO.
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Yeah, but you're talking common Nazi symbolism that has been widely visible in all sorts of media for decades. Anybody who's seen five minutes of a Nazi themed movie knows. Definitely second place to the swastika in terms of notoriety, but still.

I can believe he's not actually supportive of the ideology, and was maybe drunk and thought it looked cool/egged on by his buddies to get it, but that's about it. No way that guy didn't wake up in the morning after getting it and not know.

Anyways, Dems are losing a whole lot of ground on their "Six degrees of everyone I don't like is a Nazi" game, by supporting this guy.
 
DoctorTaco said:
Maybe, but I grew up in the punk scene and keeping track of Nazi shit was part of our MO.
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Yea dude exactly. I can't tell if it's the punk kid in me or if I'm judging him exactly as he should be judged but I did think that everyone knew that symbol. I thought everyone new the totenkompf the black sun the bolts and the swastika. Norse runes are a bit more ambiguous and I need a few more clues to decide what to think if I see those on someone.
 
Cole train said:
It happens a lot with old pagan/viking symbols and tattoos actually since nazis copied a lot

Good example from around here is kolovrat which is slavic pagan symbol for sun/circle of life. I had to actually explain here on dog in a russia related thread that its not the nazi black sun which is completely different


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When I was in Japan I toured a place that was used as a place to practice Buddhism. It tripped me out when I saw a bunch of swatzikas on a map. Turns out it is a symbol used by Buddhist and Shinto practitioners way before Nazis started using it.
 
HereticBD said:
Yeah, but you're talking common Nazi symbolism that has been widely visible in all sorts of media for decades. Anybody who's seen five minutes of a Nazi themed movie knows. Definitely second place to the swastika in terms of notoriety, but still.
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i’d say the SS runes are #2, then Totenkopf at #3.

above arbitrary bullshit aside, anyone over the age of 12 who claims they didn’t realize a Totenkopf symbol was THEE Nazi Totenkopf symbol is bereft of any plausible deniability whatsoever. if this guy wants to play that card he might as well just come clean & admit he never made it past the fifth grade
 
So we have a bloke who found out he had something related to Nazis and corrected it while we have literal Nazis in our government being found out on social networks and THOUSANDS of texts with no fucks given.

Correct?
 
fingercuffs said:
So we have a bloke who found out he had something related to Nazis and corrected it while we have literal Nazis in our government being found out on social networks and THOUSANDS of texts with no fucks given.

Correct?
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So you’re ok with Platner staying in the race ?
 
ShadowRun said:
So you’re ok with Platner staying in the race ?
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Well you're leading me up a path here where you've found thousands of racist Nazi sexist texts from him. Let's see them.
 
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