Native-Americans in Canada

DizzyYeahYeah said:
Do you identify as Native?

Apply to one of the Native schools and ask them to help you get status.
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Not sure which school you're referring to. My understanding is I'd have to go to the leader of a native community and present my case. Definitely could be worth the trouble, I might look into it again.

I probably would identify as native if I didn't look so Jewish.
 
CombatCyborg said:
Not sure which school you're referring to. My understanding is I'd have to go to the leader of a native community and present my case. Definitely could be worth the trouble, I might look into it again.

I probably would identify as native if I didn't look so Jewish.
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There are Native American universities in the US aren't there? And aren't there Native learning centres where you learn about language and culture?
 
DizzyYeahYeah said:
There are Native American universities in the US aren't there? And aren't there Native learning centres where you learn about language and culture?
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I think Sam Merlotte made reference to those as well, but I don't know if we have them in Canada. Here, the way it works is as far as I recall is if you have status, you can apply for a grant and they'll pay your entire tuition wherever you want to enroll. I know this one guy, haven't talked to him in a while, he had a hip hop group and later got a grant to go to a great college to learn filmmaking. His music wasn't great but he has tons of ambition, wonder if that panned out for him.
 
ElSIcko said:
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Where's the part where they get beat up on the bus? They weren't so mouthy after that gun butt bounced off that fool's head. That was the most memorable part of the whole "Oka stand off.

It was funny that "Lasagna" guy was Italian from NY State, trying to pose as an Indian. What a joke.
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
Do Canadians have to deal with the "the only real Canadians are the Natives" nonsense, too? Gotta love that one. It's a handy shibboleth for sussing out morons.
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Just this week we got some of the strongest analysis indicating- with the most confidence that we've ever had- that all "Native Americans" stemmed from Siberia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture#Genetic_studies
Wikipedia said:
In 2014, the autosomal DNA of a 12,500+-year-old infant from Montana was sequenced.[64][65][66][67] The DNA was taken from a skeleton referred to as Anzick-1, found in close association with several Clovis artifacts. Comparisons showed strong affinities with DNA from Siberian sites, and virtually ruled out any close affinity with European sources (the "Solutrean hypothesis"). The DNA also showed strong affinities with all existing Native American populations, which indicated that all of them derive from an ancient population that lived in or near Siberia, the Upper Palaeolithic Mal'ta population. Mal'ta belonged to y-dna haplogroup R and mitochrondrial macrohaplogroup U.
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Nonsense said:
Are you sure it's not just you and your friends? Or just you in your head conversations?
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In fairness to him, I have heard this idea quite a few times from quite a few places. It's definitely not something he just made up by himself. I don't think it's ubiquitous, but it's not isolated.
 
LazyFatass said:
In fairness to him, I have heard this idea quite a few times from quite a few places. It's definitely not something he just made up by himself. I don't think it's ubiquitous, but it's not isolated.
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Yeah I've heard it before too. Sort of like the whole 'gentlemen' thing.

I'm black and Canadian, so I guess they'd just call me n***** huh? :rolleyes:
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
What I took away from that video is that the English and the French were vicious, malevolent liars. Thank god we Canadians and Americans aren't English or French, and thus don't have anything to do with that! Now we can put it all behind us...[I]eh[/I]?

(I like how he used "eh." Was he being ironic in using the colonizer's interjection, or just woefully unaware at how badly his mind has been infiltrated by The Man? Fight the power.)
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No the American and Canadian governments are both guilty on massive levels even up into the last century of crimes against native peoples. Generally theft of land these days but in the past both governments were involved in forced relocation, internment, and outright genocide.

There are still many cases going in Canada right now where the government is conspiring with business interests to steal tribal land under the ruse of eminent domain in order to grant it to mining / fracking / forresting firms.
 
ElSIcko said:
no
myself i am a non "status indian"

i am just showing how the first nations of canada have been swept under the rug

ease up
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Your not being swept under the rug were all the same people we all have the same rights "status Indians" have it better then all of us but it doesn't mean your being held down by anyone
 
ajwbjj87 said:
Your not being swept under the rug were all the same people we all have the same rights "status Indians" have it better then all of us but it doesn't mean your being held down by anyone
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Saying there are no societal pressures in Canada against FNMI people is like saying there is no racial bias in stand your ground murder trials in Florida.
 
shunyata said:
Saying there are no societal pressures in Canada against FNMI people is like saying there is no racial bias in stand your ground murder trials in Florida.
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As being what we call around these parts as a "half breed" myself I don't believe the race standards in Canada can be remotely compared to that of the US. Native people in Canada are given every opportunity imaginable to exceed, being excepted into the RCMP is almost twice as easy to do if your of native decent
 
ajwbjj87 said:
As being what we call around these parts as a "half breed" myself I don't believe the race standards in Canada can be remotely compared to that of the US. Native people in Canada are given every opportunity imaginable to exceed, being excepted into the RCMP is almost twice as easy to do if your of native decent
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Bro i see what your saying. yea its true it can be easier to get a GOV job as a native....IF you weren't born onto a reserve with alcoholic parents/grandparents. Its a circle of drug abuse, and poverty and that what keeps natives down. While they are directly responsible for their failures its a undeniable fact that the Canadian gov of the past tried to do everything it could to erase native culture and assimilate them into a culture that they didnt want to be a part of. Almost a whole generation was just torn apart. My GF grandma was taken from her family and given the name Bob (wtf i know), she NEVER saw her mother again.

%3 of Canada pop is native and almost %35 of our inmates are native. BTW im white. And i do grill greedy Indians like that stupid fat bish attawapiskat chief. And i do believe that the gov just gives them to much $ that they dont know what to do with.

Peace
 
Madmick said:
Just this week we got some of the strongest analysis indicating- with the most confidence that we've ever had- that all "Native Americans" stemmed from Siberia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture#Genetic_studies
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So under that pattern, China has every right to be the next wave of New World usurpers.

shunyata said:
No the American and Canadian governments are both guilty on massive levels even up into the last century of crimes against native peoples. Generally theft of land these days but in the past both governments were involved in forced relocation, internment, and outright genocide.

There are still many cases going in Canada right now where the government is conspiring with business interests to steal tribal land under the ruse of eminent domain in order to grant it to mining / fracking / forresting firms.
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There certainly is insidious shit still going on. The treaty process itself is engineered to cripple. There's hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees getting racked up that these bands will be on the hook for. #indentured servitude
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
What I took away from that video is that the English and the French were vicious, malevolent liars. Thank god we Canadians and Americans aren't English or French, and thus don't have anything to do with that! Now we can put it all behind us...eh?

(I like how he used "eh." Was he being ironic in using the colonizer's interjection, or just woefully unaware at how badly his mind has been infiltrated by The Man? Fight the power.)
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you sound needlessly angry for some strange reason.
 
Kerr Smash said:
Bro i see what your saying. yea its true it can be easier to get a GOV job as a native....IF you weren't born onto a reserve with alcoholic parents/grandparents. Its a circle of drug abuse, and poverty and that what keeps natives down. While they are directly responsible for their failures its a undeniable fact that the Canadian gov of the past tried to do everything it could to erase native culture and assimilate them into a culture that they didnt want to be a part of. Almost a whole generation was just torn apart. My GF grandma was taken from her family and given the name Bob (wtf i know), she NEVER saw her mother again.

%3 of Canada pop is native and almost %35 of our inmates are native. BTW im white. And i do grill greedy Indians like that stupid fat bish attawapiskat chief. And i do believe that the gov just gives them to much $ that they dont know what to do with.

Peace
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That's actually a really cool reply and for the most part we agree about everything the big one is that throwing money at the problem solves nothing , the education system is the same way I just don't see anyway of making life better for the natives then it already is, I believe as a people they need take the initiative to be the best they can be and not blame white people for all our problems
 
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