Social National Parks facing massive crisis

You should visit Yosemite. It's great in the late fall (if the state isn't in fire) and it is plenty geologically extreme. El Capitan is the tallest exposed granite face on the planet and the scenery created by these huge pieces of granite jutting up from the ground is breathtaking.

It's on the list. And yeah, now I remember learning about that from the superb rock climbing doc that came out a few years back. It probably worked to make Yosemite even more popular and well known than it already was.

 
It's on the list. And yeah, now I remember learning about that from the superb rock climbing doc that came out a few years back. It probably worked to make Yosemite even more popular and well known than it already was.



Oh yea, El Capitan is like Mecca for the best climbers in the world. That ain't my thing, but watching those who do it is awesome too. When you're there, they look like brightly colored ants silhouetted against the gray rock. It's wild.
 
pics of twinks for evaluation. That aside I believe America have the most beautiful collection of parks in the world in one country.

It probably does - in part because the USA is massive - although the majority of global gold tier parks are to be found in a small handful of far western states. Maybe if South America was a country, considering Canaima, Iguazu, Los Glaciares, and Torres del Paine to name a few. The Patagonia region in general would appear to be off the wall. I'd say the New World in general is completely off the wall. Yellowstone is so fucking wicked, it would be up there on my bucket list with Sagarmatha and the Serengeti if I hadn't already been there and didn't live so relatively close to it (a truly wonderful thing).



 
I'm gonna need someone to take care of the house while I'm cruisin' around the greatest country in the world in 4 years. But, yeah, he said he does want to see the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone.

Make sure you download the NPS app and save them for offline use before you get to destinations (the file sizes aren't that large), it's pretty bare bones but serves its purpose very effectively.


 
@Sano I need you to read up for me on which of my faves are going to be fucked up as a result of this climate business, it's your arena. I'm sure legit studies have been done on some of them given the prestige, and the NPS itself probably publishes reports. I'm not lazy or stupid, just afraid to look. :(
 
You should visit Yosemite. It's great in the late fall (if the state isn't in fire)

The wildfires would seem like an obvious one to the question posed above, they're probably eventually going to wipe out all of the giants in Sequoia & Kings Canyon. How fucking tragic would that be, 7 out of the 10 largest trees on the whole planet are there (and 18 out of 30). I remember General Sherman having to be specially wrapped up by firefighters a couple years back to do what they could. He's over 2,200 years old and the largest living thing on the planet.
 
One more thing before I go, @Uncle Cool Dude:

The Grand Canyon should never be merely seen, but experienced. It boggles my mind that people will travel all that way to only look over it from Mather Point for half an hour, then maybe take the shuttle to a couple of other spots. Those views are incredible, but limiting a trip to only that is almost inexcusable unless you're disabled, elderly, or tied to (very) small children. I know you've dealt with some pretty savage injuries and setbacks the last few years.

Try and get right because it's only when you actually descend into the canyon towards the river that carved it and start feeling smaller and smaller with every step that it really shows you its soul and demonstrates why it's the fucking GRAND CANYON and one of nature's greatest masterpieces. When people describe it as a sort of life changing experience, that's what they're referring to.
 
One more thing before I go, @Uncle Cool Dude:

The Grand Canyon should never be merely seen, but experienced. It boggles my mind that people will travel all that way to only look over it from Mather Point for half an hour, then maybe take the shuttle to a couple of other spots. Those views are incredible, but limiting a trip to only that is almost inexcusable unless you're disabled, elderly, or tied to (very) small children. I know you've dealt with some pretty savage injuries and setbacks the last few years.

Try and get right because it's only when you actually descend into the canyon towards the river that carved it and start feeling smaller and smaller with every step that it really shows you its soul and demonstrates why it's the fucking GRAND CANYON and one of nature's greatest masterpieces. When people describe it as a sort of life changing experience, that's what they're referring to.

For sure. The plan is to take somewhat of a sabbatical, 30 or 40 days, and do it up real grande!
 
You ever considered it, @mb23100? <45>

The Badwater Ultramarathon describes itself as "the world's toughest foot race". It is a 135-mile (217 km) course starting at 282 feet (86 m) below sea level in the Badwater Basin of California's Death Valley (North America's lowest point), and ending at an elevation of 8,360 feet (2,550 m) at Whitney Portal, the trailhead to Mount Whitney (the highest peak in the contiguous United States). It takes place annually in mid-July, when the weather conditions are most extreme and temperatures can reach 130°F (54°C). Consequently, very few people, even among ultramarathoners, are capable of finishing the race.[1][2]

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You ever considered it, @mb23100? <45>

The Badwater Ultramarathon describes itself as "the world's toughest foot race". It is a 135-mile (217 km) course starting at 282 feet (86 m) below sea level in the Badwater Basin of California's Death Valley (North America's lowest point), and ending at an elevation of 8,360 feet (2,550 m) at Whitney Portal, the trailhead to Mount Whitney (the highest peak in the contiguous United States). It takes place annually in mid-July, when the weather conditions are most extreme and temperatures can reach 130°F (54°C). Consequently, very few people, even among ultramarathoners, are capable of finishing the race.[1][2]

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Lol no
 
For sure. The plan is to take somewhat of a sabbatical, 30 or 40 days, and do it up real grande!

40, breh. Go Big, Go West.

Shenandoah and the Great Smoky Mountains are always going to be within relative arm's length from your home base, Grand Canyon and Yellowstone are once in a lifetime for a lot of people. You're gonna want to spend at least four days in the latter (and an entire week in Wyoming, including Teton down the highway) having a very lazy, leisurely good old time taking in the environmental atmosphere and scenery. Lamar - and Hayden - Valley are like America's version of the Serengeti, and wildlife is not even Yellowstone's primary draw or feature.
 

I kinda felt bad for this guy, RIP. He was apparently quite an experienced hiker at that, if something of a thrill seeker. There's always a solid handful of otherwise capable people who make a very grave underestimation and push their limits too far alongside the outright Instagram type idiots who go out of their way to be a liability.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-07-21/death-valley-heat-71-year-old-hiker-dies



Curry collapsed outside the restroom at Golden Canyon around 3:40 p.m., and a park visitor used a cellphone to call 911. Officials with the National Park Service and Inyo County Sheriff’s Office responded, but a medical helicopter was not able to respond because of the high temperature. Officials said hot air can be too thin for helicopters to get enough lift to get off the ground safely.

Whoa. It sounds like the Grand Canyon's NPS employees are also getting fed up with having to launch so many search and rescue operations every year. GCNP kills more people than any other park over the last decade, IIRC. I don't think I've ever seen an official government website put up a page with so much in the form of bolded words, CAPITALIZED letters, use of colors, or exclamation points!



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Photos: ‘Distress flag’ towers over Yosemite to protest cuts as crowds view firefall

A group of frustrated Yosemite National Park staffers hoping to draw attention to the federal government’s sweeping workforce cuts hung an upside-down American flag Saturday thousands of feet off the ground on the side of El Capitan.

The 3,000-foot granite cliff looms above Yosemite Valley, and thousands of eyes were on it Saturday evening for the dramatic stunt: It’s the last weekend of the annual firefall spectacle, which brings scores of onlookers to Yosemite.

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Dozens, if not hundreds, of large telephoto cameras set up by visitors Saturday in a viewing area on the valley floor were trained high on El Capitan to capture the ephemeral moments when the day’s last light illuminates Horsetail Fall as if it were a cascade of lava pouring over the cliff.
The upside-down flag — traditionally a symbol of distress or a national threat — was strung near the falls and clearly visible.

“We’re bringing attention to what’s happening to the parks, which are every American’s properties,” Gavin Carpenter, a maintenance mechanic with Yosemite and disabled military veteran who supplied the flag and helped hang it Saturday, told the Chronicle. “It’s super important we take care of them, and we’re losing people here, and it’s not sustainable if we want to keep the parks open.”

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Eleven of Yosemite’s full-time staff members, including the park’s sole locksmith, a biologist, an HVAC specialist and others, received a termination email on Feb. 14 — as did thousands of federal lands workers across the country, some of whom have spoken out about the pain and dejection they feel being summarily dismissed from jobs they love. Yosemite staffers typically live in employer-provided housing in the park, so a termination can carry the added burden for many of losing their residence.

“Since these cuts came, a lot of people are really uneasy and worried about what’s going to happen to them,” Carpenter said.
Yosemite visitors offered mixed reactions to the flag Saturday.

“At first, I thought the upside-down flag was for Trump support, but then realized it was to support the national parks, and I was for it,” said Tina Alidio, visiting from Las Vegas.
“If the flag is for national parks, I am all for it,” said Joe Amaral, also from Las Vegas. “We have been to 32 national parks. We think they are short on resources as it is, and now you want to take away more? It isn’t right.”
But Rebecca Harvey of Greeley Hill (Mariposa County) said: “I would rather see nature — no hand of man.”

Separate from the flag demonstration Saturday afternoon, Jackson Fitzsimmons, who said he was a wilderness ranger with Sierra National Forest until he was terminated in the widespread staffing cuts, stood in front of Yosemite’s welcome center to relay a similar message to visitors passing by.

“There are people who, with no warning and no cause, have lost their jobs, are going to have to move, are going to have to struggle to survive with their families,” said Fitzsimmons, who wore a ranger uniform.

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The group of six flag demonstrators rigged ropes at the top of El Capitan and rappelled down the cliff face to unfurl the flag, which measures 30 by 50 feet. Carpenter said they would leave it up for a few hours until around the time of the firefall event, then roll it back up and leave — enough time for it to register with viewers in the valley but not so long that it would ruin the photos they came to take of the famous natural spectacle.

Shortly after hanging the banner, the group sent out a statement:

“The purpose of this exercise of free speech is to disrupt without violence and draw attention to the fact that public lands in the United States are under attack,” it reads. “The Department of the Interior issued a series of secretarial orders that position drilling and mining interests as the favored uses of America’s public lands and threaten to scrap existing land protections and conservation measures. Firing 1,000s of staff regardless of position or performance across the nation is the first step in destabilizing the protections in place for these great places.”

The statement continued:
“These losses, while deeply personal and impactful, may also be invisible to visitors and members of the public — we are shining a spotlight on them by putting a distress flag on El Capitan in view of Firefall. Think of it as your public lands on strike.”

It’s uncommon that people use El Capitan to deliver such messages, in part because of the technical know-how required to access the sheer cliff face. But it has happened a couple of times in recent years.

Last summer, a group of demonstrators temporarily hung a banner reading “Stop the genocide” from the cliff in an effort to bring awareness to the Israeli offensive in Gaza.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/outdoors/article/yosemite-protest-job-cuts-20180229.php




Nothing to see folks. I'm sure Trump has a plan.

@Deorum
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National parks should be protected and provided for. It should be efficient and not money just wasted but we need to protected them.
 
Damn those Whites!

What kind of fucktard writes this shit? I'll bet that the author was one of those terrible Whites! Probably a Millennial. ABC News, what a joke. No wonder no one watches the networks anymore. They did this to themselves.
Usually white women. Weird demographic lately.
 
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