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International Nancy Pelosi & The Butchers of Beijing

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  1. Deorum ~ Esoteric Belt ~

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    TL;DR: The easiest thread I'll ever start because it requires so little actual analysis or knowledge. It's simply a matter of historical and political record, fact and reality. So, grab you favorite ice cream and take a stroll through Chinatown, this is a mere partial chronology of the most staunchly Anti-CCP politician in American history.

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    As you can see, that's a headline from 15 years ago. 15 years prior to that, Pelosi was literally - and illegally - protesting the regime (see this thread) in the middle of Tiananmen Square as a sitting US congresswoman; she openly fought against both the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administration(s) to revoke China's "most favored nation" trade status; opposed permanent "normalized" relations with the country while America was getting deindustrialized and its light manufacturing offshored (see this thread too); was the most vocal opponent of and voted against the PNTR bill in 2000 that all but approved the CCP joining the WTO...

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/mfn97.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/mfn97pr.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prpla.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prclinch.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prnuke.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prchinla.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prmfn.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prclint.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prmfn798.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prchivot.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prxu.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prchirts.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prunchin.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/przhu.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prntr.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prtibet.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prtibet.htm

    http://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.house.gov/files/pressarchives/releases/prwto.htm

    She wrote various Op-Eds in major newspapers denouncing CCP Presidents as tyrants when they made official state visits to the US; called for boycott of the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics; broke decorum for all the right reasons and met with pro-democracy dissidents while on official business to China as Speaker of the House while Obama was POTUS. Fuck, she even supported President Trump's policies, with the only caveat being a more comprehensive approach and united front of EU and East Asian allies as opposed to starting simultaneous trade wars with them.

    The former stay-at-home mother of five who didn't get elected to Congress until she was nearly 50 years old rose to become the most powerful woman in the history of US politics. And as far as the CCP? She's the baddest bitch to ever do it, more aggressive in her open hostility - "dozens of deliberate anti-China incidents" - than every cucked out of their mind, sell out US male politician there's ever been, on "both sides", bar none. What the fuck? Pelosi is the GOAT. [​IMG] It's undeniable, folx.

    Excerpts:

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    http://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Feinstein-vs-Pelosi-Over-China-Issue-S-F-2977076.php
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    http://www.sfgate.com/hdn/hrlm/p/fastly_redirect.html?dm=https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Pelosi-on-China-A-voice-in-the-global-wilderness-3082494.php
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    http://www.sfgate.com/politics/amp/Clinton-pushes-hard-for-China-to-join-WTO-3066678.php
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    http://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-apr-20-oe-pelosi20-story.html
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    http://pelosi.house.gov/news/press-...n-trump-administration-s-new-tariffs-on-china



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  2. Yehudim Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    WTF I love Nancy now

    I thought the anti-CCP rhetoric was just jumping on the recent trend
     
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  3. The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!" Double Yellow Card

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    Didn't know this. Makes me respect the crypt keeper a little more. Good on her.
     
  4. Don the grifter Banned Banned

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    Who'd have thought Pelosi was racist...
     
  5. Rocco Siffredi Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    and now we have irrefutable evidence!
     
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  6. DavidsGhost Orange Belt

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    Petition to create a sherdog account for Trump so we can @ him in this thread
     
  7. ElKarlo Titanium Belt

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    Would be great if she actually got her way and forced Biden to act tough. Amazing how much hypocrisy there was on China til recently. Clinton said H Bush had blood on his hands for doing trade with China, then goes ahead and trades with China.
    There is corruption and I understand some levels of it will occur, but helping China is not OK.
    Glad Pelosi has been consistent here.
     
  8. Trotsky Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Wow, I wasn't aware of any of this. Thanks for sharing.

    This should present some crow (to certainly never be eaten) to Republican rubes who have claimed Pelosi is a Chinese shill.

    With that said, while I appreciate Pelosi's prior activism and interest in international events, it should be pretty clear by now (imo) that the carrot is preferable to the stick in getting the CCP's technocrats to democratize and liberalize the country.
     
  9. IGIT Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    hail Deorum,

    ayup. i've said it before and i'll say it again; Nancy Pelosi is a badass. Paul Ryan was such a pale, effete shadow, compared to Mrs. Pelosi.

    *muses*

    there's a great piece in Time, which recounts when the Affordable Care Act was on the brink of defeat...it was like a scene right out of the West Wing.

    Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel (Obama's Chief of Staff) had gone deep into the night in the White House "war room"....and they began to lose their nerve; they just didn't have the votes. they were advising Obama to rewrite the ACA and aim lower, for something more modest - just to salvage a small win.

    Pelosi was absolutely having none of it.

    Pelosi told the White House to rein in Emanuel and get him to stop pestering her members about his “eensy weensy bill.”

    At a meeting in the Oval Office, Pelosi confronted the subject directly. “Mr. President, I know there are some on your staff who want to take the namby-pamby approach,” she said. “That’s unacceptable.

    Obama took her side. They were going to go for it.

    https://time.com/5832330/nancy-pelosi-obamacare/

    she's tough as nails...and she was right on China.

    its just too late, now. that ship has really sailed.

    *ponders*

    i don't know if folks know this, but its not as if President Clinton dragged the congress, kicking and screaming, to agree to grant China permanent normal trade relations; three out of four Republicans voted in favor of the edict, along with one out of three Democrats.

    that is to say, it was bipartisan.

    - IGIT
     
  10. Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

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    This is what we need. Our politicians sticking it to China instead of us.
     
  11. Social Distance Warrior Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm still pissed about the whole hair salon scandal, therefore I'm going to disregard everything in the OP....


    Almost as pissed about Obama's tan suit
     
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  12. Oceanmachine Brown Belt

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    I dont get the analogy.

    Pelosi has been America first regarding China. This decades of her anti China rhetoric and action is good. I do correct Republicans when they claim she is a shill. There are pro China democrat shills (Barbara Boxer, Feinstein, Harry Reid as I recall as well). This doesnt apply to her
     
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  13. CatchnShoot Black Leather Belt

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    I never really cared for Pelosi... but HOLY SHIT she's been right all along.

    China is the fucking devil...... by that I mean the Chinese state, all the actual Chinese people I know are great (mind you they don't actually live in China...in fact they left the joint)
    I may have to refine my viewpoint.
     
  14. PrinceOfPain Silver Belt

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    God damn you, @Deorum
    I was perfectly happy hating that harpy, and here you are complicating my comfort with these facts I'd happily managed to miss.

    I hate crow. It's all stringy and gets stuck in my teeth.

    Asshole.
     
  15. CatchnShoot Black Leather Belt

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    I think carrot nor stick have much effect. Hong Kong/Tibet/the Eastern Ladakh/Taiwan/The Xingjiang re-education centers for Uyghurs.
    It's pretty clear that the Chinese government don't give a fuck about what the rest of the world thinks. In terms of human rights, the gauge is right on E.
     
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  16. CatchnShoot Black Leather Belt

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    Dude, you've GOT to get a Sous Vide..... like fuckin' butter.
     
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  17. Deorum ~ Esoteric Belt ~

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    Heh, she's the OG of that shit.

    It gets better (albeit unrelated).

    http://www.sfgate.com/politics/amp/Pelosi-calls-for-prosecution-of-violent-antifa-12162909.php

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is calling for the prosecution of violent members of the group known as ANTIFA, or anti-fascists.

    "Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts," Pelosi said in a statement. "The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted."

    The San Francisco Democrat was quick to separate Antifa from the Democratic Party, telling The Denver Post's editorial board on Wednesday: "You're not talking about the far left of the Democratic Party — they're not even Democrats. A lot of them are socialist or anarchist or whatever."
     
  18. ElKarlo Titanium Belt

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    Interesting that she doesn’t show the honest part but presents herself on a much less honest way. It’s very weird
     
  19. KnightTemplar Beskar Belt Platinum Member

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    Fuck you, OP! Now I have to go back on the Dark Web and tell the hit man I hired to whack Nancy to stand down. And I won't even get my deposit back!:mad:;)

    Joking aside, credit where it's due. I'll stand with anyone who stands against the CCP:cool:
     
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  20. KeepingItReal Purple Belt

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    So Nancy Pelosi is a fucking G! This is very interesting. We are united by our dislike for the CCP moreso than our like for anything else lol.
     
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