News Mysterious drones over New Jersey

terrapin said:
That's for sure, but there's no doubt that some orbs have actually been seen by credible people.

I can't remember if it was NBC or ABC or one of those news programs, but they put a clip on YouTube interviewing four regular contributors/authors/pundits to their news program and all four of them live in New Jersey and have all seen the the drones. They all confirmed massive amounts of drones way too many drones completely inordinate amount of drones that presently the White House is denying.

Three of them described the drones that we would expect to see and be man-made. But the fourth contributor said that's not what he saw at all. What he saw was an orb flying across the sky.

I've heard enough reports of this that I think they must be considered when weighing the data.

I don't know what that means but it would be strange to have obviously man-made drones flying around in the sky while people see orbs too.

One proposal is that they're sending up the drones to obscure the fact that there are orbs and to watch them.

The other thing that goes against any ideas about this being a purely local phenomenon is that this is happening all over the world. News Nation has been covering it a ton.
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I know orbs are real, but I’m also saying the pictures that people put up of them are out of focus.
So there is no real way to either distinguish those images from a star that is out of focus, you need video or long exposure pictures with a tripod and to disclose camera specs.

There a handful of big clues that point these are not man made:

No heat signature.

No detection of them emitting energy like radio communications.

Reports of them making very sharp turns (3g to 5g) at low air speeds and for these types of maneuvers you not only need a highly efficient design and advanced control systems but the energy expenditure is so great that for them to also be in the air for hours and to go back over across the ocean is beyond what’s known to human technology.

Those energy requirements refute any arguments that they are government/contractor/foreign drones that might be masking their heat signature, because you can reduce a heat signature with advanced mechanisms but not eliminate it completely, and especially not when you require tremendous amounts of energy to be exhibiting these movements, flight times, and flight ranges without recharging for hours.
It’s very basic physics.

Also the report of disabling a civilian drone via discharging the battery might not be forensically examined and officially verified but if true it is immensely significant because anyone that is familiar with anti-drone technologies and engineering knows that hacking into the battery would be the least efficient, practical, and hardest route to take.
If you look into UFO reports by fighter jet pilots you will find instances where their weapons systems were hacked and disabled while engaged with them.

All you gotta do is watch the first 15 minutes of the Ryan Graves analysis on JRE:
 
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terrapin said:
The other thing that goes against any ideas about this being a purely local phenomenon is that this is happening all over the world. News Nation has been covering it a ton.
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News Nation have been covering UFOs more than any other news outlet for a long time, so has Ross Coulhart. I have probably watched every episode of his special segments on there.
I think it might have started when David Grusch gave testimony under oath that they have been giving it ample coverage.

I’ve been researching UFOs exhaustively since August 2022 when I saw dozens of them fly away in a synchronized fashion. Some people kept telling me they were probably drones, but these things remained static in the air for 7 hours and I just knew the logistics for that to be possible were stretching the limits of plausibility. Not to mention I had a previous sighting while I was flying above Mexico City.

The subject can be very complex, dizzying, and I don’t think there is someone out there with 100% knowledge of what is going on. You have to be a Bayesian thinker and assign different degrees of probability to everything you hear.
There are some cognitive hurdles you need to get over in order to grasp the reality of the manifestations of non-human intelligence and to accept the counter-intuitive aspects of it.

“Aliens” are not going to conform to anthropological expectations of behaviors, motivations, ontological assumptions or suppositions. They might not be from another planet. They might be from another dimension. They might be from the future. There might be different kinds across these categories, or somewhere in between. Some might be benevolent, some might be antagonistic, some might be indifferent, some might be mildly curious but neutral, some might be mischievous.
 
MWB1982 said:
2 theories I believe

1. They are nuke sniffing drones. They are looking for a missing nuclear bomb. Everyone has heard this theory.

2. These drones are new weapons that's going to be used in the upcoming war with China. These drones are launched by submarines and they map the battlefield live, in real time. They are invisible to radar and give off no heat. Basically Skynet. They will fill the skies and will see and hear everything.

We saw footage of one drone hitting another with the EMP.. Fried it on the spot.

Basically the world is changing for the worse and there's going to be no where to run or hide. And people in America want us to give up our guns.. The last bastion of freedom on this Earth.. If America falls, the world falls into tyranny for the next thousand years..
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Yeah but, aren't guns more or less completely useless vs some sort of future drone that was deaigned to dodge bullets? You would need some sort of electronic gun to stop a drone swarm
 
What about that theorized microwave gun that was used on people's brains? What if a giant microwave gun was sprayed at paths of drones to cook their metal parts?
 
chill doggie said:
I know orbs are real, but I’m also saying the pictures that people put up of them are out of focus.
So there is no real way to either distinguish those images from a star that is out of focus, you need video or long exposure pictures with a tripod and to disclose camera specs.

There a handful of big clues that point these are not man made:

No heat signature.

No detection of them emitting energy like radio communications.

Reports of them making very sharp turns (3g to 5g) at low air speeds and for these types of maneuvers you not only need a highly efficient design and advanced control systems but the energy expenditure is so great that for them to also be in the air for hours and to go back over across the ocean is beyond what’s known to human technology.

Those energy requirements refute any arguments that they might be masking their heat signature, because you can reduce a heat signature with advanced mechanisms but not eliminate it completely, and especially not when you are exhibiting these movements, flight times, and flight ranges without recharging.
It’s very basic physics.

Also the report of disabling a civilian drone via discharging the battery might not be forensically examined and officially verified but if true it is immensely significant because anyone that is familiar with anti-drone technologies and engineering knows that hacking into the battery would be the least efficient, practical, and hardest route to take.
If you look into UFO reports by fighter jet pilots you will find instances where their weapons systems were hacked and disabled while engaged with them.

All you gotta do is watch the first 15 minutes of the Ryan Graves analysis on JRE:
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This is a great post man. Thank you for taking the time to do it. I appreciate it very much.

@N13 posted a video that turned out to be really good, despite the fact that I rarely agree with his take on these kinds of things and there were some very crisp clean images of orbs on this. It was actually video and the woman did disclose what camera she used so you might want to check that out man!!

And even though there are some questionable things going on with the secret of the skinwalker ranch episodes, they have filmed countless orbs throughout the season and even caught one moving or flying through the trees which was completely legitimate.

I also have seen one UFO very clearly in close up in my lifetime to know that it was not anything man-made and I've seen orbs countless countless times in various situations. The thing is when I saw orbs it was always in groups of people and they were around people's heads. I've never seen them in the sky or the woods or something.
 
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ferrisjso said:
I believe the UAPs from the past are aliens of some sort but I think this current New Jersey iteration are drones and/or human controlled craft. FAA last year allowed for drones to be flown at night whereas previously they were banned. People aren't used to seeing them at night so peoples first time seeing them is a WTF moment.

It went under the radar because of COVID and all the chaos of this turbulent period but apparently drone flying has become a very widespread hobby.

These drones don't have the size or speed of the UFOs the navy saw. Also those things are almost always alone. Are there any videos of those things in group its always been one. Think once there may have been a sighting of two?
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Hey man, you might want to check out some news Nation reporting on this because your take seems a little underinformed as far as the data that's actually being reported.

There's no way that the drone sightings are business as usual due to a loosening of drone regulations. One person reported drones coming in off the ocean so the sheriff's department sent a cop out there to check it out and the sheriff saw 50 drones coming in off the ocean all at one time and was so freaked out that they called 911 for backup!!! And these drones are often the size of cars and you got to think about the cost of drones like that. There's no private person that has 50 drones like that.

Because of this the sheriff's called the Coast guard and the Coast guard sent a ship out and 15 drones followed that ship for quite a while!!

New Jersey sheriffs also could not detect these drones with heat detection technology and they're not putting off any sound which is really weird. I don't think that makes them alien but it certainly doesn't make them inexpensive!!!

And groups of drones smaller but large groups are being seen all over the place throughout New Jersey.

On top of that less commonly but still frequently orbs are being seen alongside of the drones.

The official story from the White House that this is just business as usual and the new night sky in light of drone ownership is completely inapplicable to what's actually happening on the ground in New Jersey.

But also, if you listen to yesterday's department of defense briefing on the subject, he tells a very sophisticated kind of lie. In that he says all of these drones are legal and a combination of commercial and private ownership. But when the woman asks about certain other events that shut down a national airport or shut down a military airport, he says oh, that's a different category and then quickly moves on and the reporter didn't follow up suggesting that he was lying and pretending all of the drones were of known origin, but conveniently leaving out an entire category of drones that they can't explain at the same time.
 
BroRogan said:
Hey! ;) Yeah I've heard there were some seen here aswell but not in the deep South as far as I know - they probably know who they got to deal with otherwise.

Let me know if you catch anything. Honestly pretty strange and bizarre all that.
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Haven't seen anything yet, but I'm ready and watching.

Wish it was you inside the drone
 
mb23100 said:
So are there any clear photos that havent been debunked?
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@N13 posted a set of videos that look legit coming straight out of New Jersey and one of them was on a really high quality video camera.

But the vast majority of sightings have not been debunked actually.
 
Sakuraba'sEar said:
Also another reason why it wouldn't be aliens

Aliens would know that we are stupid, and we are led by Warhawks and Degenerates

Why would the aliens want to visit if our leaders will just try to blow them up or fuck them?
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Does the boot worry about getting bit by an ant??
 
Sakuraba'sEar said:
No, but they probably wouldn't decide to come if its going to draw such a visceral reaction to begin with.

Me thinks the orbs are something else
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The orbs definitely could be something else. No doubt about that man, but your reasoning assumes a lot about aliens that we don't know so I'm not sure the reasoning is accurate but it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for sure what these things are and if somebody does know for sure you and I can't tell that they know for sure so we're really completely left in the dark.

Any ideas what they are man?
 
Here an astrophysicist explores possible explanations for what these orbs are according to his understanding of physics. This is well worth the watch you guys there is some incredible video footage also.

 
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terrapin said:
Nobody knows for sure what these things are and if somebody does know for sure you and I can't tell that they know for sure so we're really completely left in the dark.

Any ideas what they are man?
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Outside of just being another type of drone (the other being that inverted U shaped one NewsNation discribed) I really have no clue, I watched about three videos, and in the videos the orbs don't seem to be moving much
 



Illicit drone use in the U.S. is on the rise and House lawmakers want to ensure Federal agencies have the power to successfully counter drone threats, saying it is “imperative” to pass new legislation to ensure current drone-countering authorities are extended.

The current drone-countering authorities – authorized as part of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 – are set to expire next week on Dec. 20.

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Rep. Pfluger said the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act of 2024 (H.R.8610) would renew and reform current counter-UAS legal authorities. The bill would extend existing DHS and DoJ counter-UAS authorities through Oct. 1, 2028.

The legislation also aims to strengthen public safety in communities across the country. For example, it would require DHS to establish a counter-UAS mitigation pilot program under which select state law enforcement agencies could operate approved counter-UAS mitigation systems and mitigate unauthorized UAS operations on behalf of covered entities.
 
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A New Jersey military base says it has been targeted by contraband-smuggling drones and has put countermeasures in places to thwart incursions.

Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst said that incidents relate to efforts to drop prohibited items into FCI Fort Dix federal prison, which is housed on the facility. “This year, there have been multiple drone detections, involving attempts to smuggle contraband into the federal correctional institution hosted on our base,” a base spokesperson told The War Zone.

Unmanned aircraft systems have previously smuggled cellphones, drugs and tobacco, and weight loss supplements amongst other items, according to the report.

It comes as House Speaker Mike Johnson suggested on Wednesday that the Biden administration had brushed off concerns about the drones while providing no information as to their purpose. “This is why we need Donald J. Trump back in the White House, to bring a steady hand to the wheel and a strong commander-in-chief. He would have already had the answers,” he said during an episode of Fox and Friends.

GOP Representative Carlos Giménez of Florida told NewsNation he is most concerned that the government “hasn’t the faintest idea what’s going on with these drones” which, he claimed, “pose a threat.
 
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FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map​

These areas have all now been deemed 'National Defense Airspace.'

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PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- There is a major development in the ongoing drone saga in New Jersey.

Several federal agencies had tried to put to it bed earlier this week by saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration has now issued temporary flying restrictions (TFR) in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to "special security reasons."

The TFR areas include the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, Westampton, Burlington and Hamilton. Flying drones are also banned in Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Clifton and Kearny.

Here is a map of those sites where flying drones are now temporarily banned:
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The small red circles each indicate "one nautical mile" radius flight restrictions in these areas, including from the ground up to 400 feet. 400 feet is the altitude at which recreational drones are allowed to operate under FAA rules.

The previously issued TFRs for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

These areas have all now been deemed "National Defense Airspace."

Unmanned aircraft are no longer allowed in those areas from now through January 17, unless approved by the federal government.

See the full list of temporary flight restrictions on the FAA website.

The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace may be "intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement." The FAA can also take administrative action including imposing civil penalties and suspend/revoke the airmen certificate as well as pursue criminal charges.

The agency ominously warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against any drones if they pose an imminent threat.

This ban comes after Sunday's press briefing where an FAA official said there have "without a doubt" been drones flying over New Jersey, pointing to the fact that there are nearly a million drones are registered in the U.S.

The ban also comes after Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer was blocked Wednesday from quickly advancing a bill that would allow local law enforcement agencies to track aerial drones, ensuring Congress won't act this year on the mysterious drone sightings that have bewildered residents of New Jersey and across the eastern U.S.
 
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