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My relative argues that athletes live shorter lives because they have used up more heart beats

He argues that there is a limited set of heart beats possible (turns out this is true, just under 4 billion):

There is no going around the fact that athletes have used up way more heart beats than a couch potatoe. And so he sticks by his argument.

There is no study that is going to change his mind since they are all speculative, not actual causal proofs that excercise is better for longevity.

My counter argument is that inactivity offsets the saved heart beats and kills the person prematurely via poor circulation.

He points to Stephen Hawking living a long life and not moving at all.

lol

How do you refute him?
Athletes have a much lower resting heart beat though, which compensates for periods of exertion and activity.
 
being more fit greatly reduces your resting heart rate, which offsets the increased heart rate during exercise.
 
I've heard that before, I wouldn't think that's really out of the question. It's not just heartbeats though, depending on the sport, it's the wear and tear of other parts of the body too. Marvelous Marvin Hagler looked like the picture of health and he died at about 68, which is 6 years short of the average person. No cause of death was ever given. Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson, about as great as fighters get, both died in their late 60's too. Joe had heart problems, he also got involved in drugs at a ridiculous older age. Sugar Ray had diabetes and pugilistica dementia, they both had brain problems. Joe was put into a psychiatric facility at one point by his son.

You'd think athletes would live longer lives but they die just like everyone else at about the same ages, even earlier depending on the sport.
.Jake la motta was old but maybe an outlier
 
Accuse him of trying to kill you by raising your heartbeat with his stupid arguments.
Haha. It did drive me crazy. He also never gave his golden dog a bath because they are wolfes
 
Health is not an exact science and everyone is different.

Someone can smoke a pack a day and live to be 90, some can be as fit as a fiddle and die of cancer at 34.

Does your uncle not realise healthy people have a far lower resting heart beat than fatties, which is 90% of their day??
 
Health is not an exact science and everyone is different.

Someone can smoke a pack a day and live to be 90, some can be as fit as a fiddle and die of cancer at 34.

Does your uncle not realise healthy people have a far lower resting heart beat than fatties, which is 90% of their day??
I think he said that's bullshit but I'll tell him
 
I think he said that's bullshit but I'll tell him

He thinks it's bs that everyone has a different resting heart beat, and that fatties will have significantly higher rates than those of a healthy person, and it is easily measurable by anyone at any time?

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After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted. Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn’t work out. When he learned that John O’Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, “You are going to die young because of this.”

And then there was this from

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I calculated that he has an excess of 300 years of heart beats.

If your heart beats once every second it will last 400 years
 
He argues that there is a limited set of heart beats possible (turns out this is true, just under 4 billion):

There is no going around the fact that athletes have used up way more heart beats than a couch potatoe. And so he sticks by his argument.

There is no study that is going to change his mind since they are all speculative, not actual causal proofs that excercise is better for longevity.

My counter argument is that inactivity offsets the saved heart beats and kills the person prematurely via poor circulation.

He points to Stephen Hawking living a long life and not moving at all.

lol

How do you refute him?

Generally speaking the more unhealthy someone is the higher their resting heart rate is.

An athlete's heart rate is only elevated while training, and for a very fit athlete it may not even elevate that much.

Someone sitting on a couch with a hr of 85 all day is going to outpace an athlete that walks around at 50-60 and elevates it for an hour or so a day to 120.

Anyway you're friend is retarded any any specs of truth are lucky accidents.
 
Generally speaking the more unhealthy someone is the higher their resting heart rate is.

An athlete's heart rate is only elevated while training, and for a very fit athlete it may not even elevate that much.

Someone sitting on a couch with a hr of 85 all day is going to outpace an athlete that walks around at 50-60 and elevates it for an hour or so a day to 120.

Anyway you're friend is retarded any any specs of truth are lucky accidents.

But athletes train all the time
 
The way I look at it, is the heart is a muscle. Take care of it and you will be fine. But extremes at either end can be harmful. Extreme cardio probably is as bad as being a sloth. Light cardio and walking is all you need. Add in a good diet and resistance training and live long and prosper.
 
As always, only retards think in absolutes on either end of a spectrum.

The correct answer is obviously somewhere in the middle for optimum health.
 
It's his belief system, so you won't change it anyway. Ask him why he won't lift weights. It raises your pulse a little bit but it's not cardio. There are many studies showing that lack of skeletal muscle leads to early death. By his own logic he's dumb for not lifting.
 
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