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Muscles can make all the difference in the world

dude why would you do that? No wonder people dont post pics of their body first you pretended to be curious but then you have to attack him. come on man we are all adults here no need for that childish behavior man.

He wasn't going to post anyway

And attempted to call me gay by saying "sus"

Therefore my reply was perfe you acceptable
 
Getting muscles seems like a lot of work. I rather takes naps and watch shows on my free time than have to sweat and stuff.
 
He wasn't going to post anyway

And attempted to call me gay by saying "sus"

Therefore my reply was perfe you acceptable
sometimes its best to take the high road brother.
 
Look up Scott Herman on youtube.




Men care far more about muscularity than women do...
Scott Herman, Omar Isuf and Johnny Candito are all natties. But theyre all small and short. It's much easier to build mass on a small frame without roids. Now take a look at Eric Lillebridge. No way on earth he could fill out that frame without fistfulls of PED's.
 
Scott Herman, Omar Isuf and Johnny Candito are all natties. But theyre all small and short. It's much easier to build mass on a small frame without roids. Now take a look at Eric Lillebridge. No way on earth he could fill out that frame without fistfulls of PED's.

It depends on your definition of filling out a frame. To me guys Eric's height(I saw he's listed at 6') look fine at around 200lbs in good shape. I don't see the appeal of carrying a shitload of muscle that you could never build naturally. Most guys that are trying to be mass monsters look ridiculous. Somewhere around natural genetic potential looks a lot better to me, though I don't think you even have to be that big to look good.
 
Look up Scott Herman on youtube.




Men care far more about muscularity than women do...
Scott herman takes supplements like creatine is that natural? If you take supplements
 
Scott herman takes supplements like creatine is that natural? If you take supplements

I consider people natural that are taking creatine or protein. I have seen people(mostly those on steroids) trying to argue that any supplement isn't natural. Their arguments are just poor attempts to justify their ped usage in my opinion. I honestly could care less about what anyone else takes, I just don't like that they often try to represent themselves as being natural.

Plenty of people build a lot of muscle on their normal diet without any supplementation by the way. I personally find it easier to drink a protein shake than to eat "x" amount of extra food to make sure I get enough.
 
Is using T still considered natural if you really do have low T? Obviously not talking about abusing the stuff with super high levels.
 
I consider people natural that are taking creatine or protein. I have seen people(mostly those on steroids) trying to argue that any supplement isn't natural. Their arguments are just poor attempts to justify their ped usage in my opinion. I honestly could care less about what anyone else takes, I just don't like that they often try to represent themselves as being natural.

Plenty of people build a lot of muscle on their normal diet without any supplementation by the way. I personally find it easier to drink a protein shake than to eat "x" amount of extra food to make sure I get enough.
What brand of supplement you take? I could never enjoy drinking whey shakes they always tasted bad, i would chug them, but i noticed when i did take them i recovered faster and built more muscle.

Vegan shakes are even worse gritty and have a dirt after taste, they try to mask it with tons of artificial flavoring and stevia.
 
Is using T still considered natural if you really do have low T? Obviously not talking about abusing the stuff with super high levels.
Thats the debate, some of these fake nattys only take TRT even in their twenties and say they are still natty because they dont take other steroids and only trt since its natural and doctor prescribed, the funny thing is a lot of doctors will prescribe it and then these guys just buy the test cypionate from costco and inject it themselves and do more than the recommended dosage, thats what a lot of ufc fighters were doing before they got a trt script and exemption but were taking more than the required dosage.
 
What brand of supplement you take? I could never enjoy drinking whey shakes they always tasted bad, i would chug them, but i noticed when i did take them i recovered faster and built more muscle.

Vegan shakes are even worse gritty and have a dirt after taste, they try to mask it with tons of artificial flavoring and stevia.
Most shakes are ALOT better mixed with milk instead of water, and throw berries in with them too.

Try mixing vanilla flavored poweders with like blueberries and raspberries or chocolate with strawberry and banana
 
Thats the debate, some of these fake nattys only take TRT even in their twenties and say they are still natty because they dont take other steroids and only trt since its natural and doctor prescribed, the funny thing is a lot of doctors will prescribe it and then these guys just buy the test cypionate from costco and inject it themselves and do more than the recommended dosage, thats what a lot of ufc fighters were doing before they got a trt script and exemption but were taking more than the required dosage.
I don’t consider that natty.

Someone my age that had low T levels and was taking the prescribed amount to get them to average t levels of THEIR age I think would be OK

But not taking the amount to say a 20yr old male or higher.
 
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Thats nothing! You should see the transformation of detroit tiger victor martinez. All natty too!
 
Most shakes are ALOT better mixed with milk instead of water, and throw berries in with them too.

Try mixing vanilla flavored poweders with like blueberries and raspberries or chocolate with strawberry and banana

That is the only way I drink Whey, my typical postworkout shake when I lifted regularly was one frozen banana, a school of whey, and some chocolate powder or ovaltine with cold milk.

I buy the all natural isonatural no additives plain unflavored from AllMax and add a heaping scoop to my smoothie and drink it.

I can't drink that shit plain with just water Ill puke, also never smell plain whey it smells like mildew or an old sock everyone I ever bought smelled like that the plain unflavored wheys all smelled like that.

No wonder they add so much flavoring

but the worst is the VEGAN shakes, the worst ever gritty and dirt tasting with the worst after taste even when you use coconut milk or almond milk its horrible. they add too much chemical flavoring too to try and mask it.
 
I don’t consider that natty.

Someone my age that had low T levels and was taking the prescribed amount to get them to average t levels of THEIR age I think would be OK

But not taking the amount to say a 20yr old male or higher.


This is what a Natural competitor looks like
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And these are Fake Nattys they only take Testosterone and supps but are impressively jacked
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This is what a Natural competitor looks like
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And these are Fake Nattys they only take Testosterone and supps but are impressively jacked
jim

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There is nothing natural about any of them.

The second guy has so many zits from roids they are popping and bleeding while he flexes in his unatural paint by numbers spray tan.
 
The second guy has so many zits from roids they are popping and bleeding while he flexes in his unatural paint by numbers spray tan.
Stop. I can only get so erect.
 
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