Muscles can make all the difference in the world

[Seaside]

He had work done to his face im positive

 

[lostdog000]

all natural

 

[TidWell]

Ya. I had a team of trainers and doctors focused on me and the expectation was set at 10lbs of real muscle mass gain the first year and 5 lbs every year after that if you are truly just tearing, healing rebuilding with diet and no 'extra' help. They said you could double that each year if you had the genetics for it but that was about it. But I was built more like Jon Jones than Brock Lesner so while my genetics were for fitness they were not for bulk.

All through my 15 years of hard core, dedicated gym work and diet I was offered 'gear' on the regular from the other 'all natty' gym guys who saw how incredibly hard I was working for so little gains. the number of times I was told I 'just needed something to break thru', by guys who were otherwise representing themselves as all Natty was hilarious.

There are some guys who are big and husky and just prone to size gains if they work out (Tank Abbott types) and eat right but that is not most of the guys in the OP.

Some guy told me that at the gym, he said he only uses Test so that makes him natty because Testosterone is natural to our body, he said he doesn't use hgh, clen, tren, etc.

only straight TEST.

 

[TidWell]

He had work done to his face im positive

You think so? nose job? and jaw work?

 

[IIIIIIII]

You think a short man looks better being thin? Most people just think he looks like a bitch.

You forgot the part where he said shredded, which I would imagine means muscular. Just not the arnold-type of muscles.

 

[Dan O]

I think a short guy looks better being thin. When youre short and muscular you look like a stumpy midget. When youre thin you dont look as short and your body looks more proportional.

When I see guys my height (5"7) all jacked up It doesnt look good to me.

You’re not wrong buddy. I often get referred to as “stocky”. Thanks?

 

[El_Dyablo619]

Not gonna lie, my physique slightly resembles the right photo at 160lbs when I'm not draining myself. While the left photo resembles my podium pics at 137lbs.

 

[Legumes]

Natural people don't gain anywhere near as fast as suggested by those photos posted. 15-20lbs is about the most actual natural people will gain in their first year of dedicated lifting. Everyone you posted is on steroids despite "looking" natural. The difference with these guys is they're taking stuff to get big quick, then tapering off their doses or even cutting it out completely after they've gained so much mass.

People's views of what can be achieved are massively skewed these days by actors, instagram models, etc. on steroids that claim to be natural: https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html

 

[TidWell]

Natural people don't gain anywhere near as fast as suggested by those photos posted. 15-20lbs is about the most actual natural people will gain in their first year of dedicated lifting. Everyone you posted is on steroids despite "looking" natural. The difference with these guys is they're taking stuff to get big quick, then tapering off their doses or even cutting it out completely after they've gained so much mass.

People's views of what can be achieved are massively skewed these days by actors, instagram models, etc. on steroids that claim to be natural: https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html

Some guy at the gym told me if you use trt which is straight test only you are considered natural because test is natural occuring in the body, but if you use steroids like dianbol, anadrol, tren, etc you are not natural.

So if these actors were just on trt wouldnt you consider them natural as well?

 

[Kaybee]

Some guy told me that at the gym, he said he only uses Test so that makes him natty because Testosterone is natural to our body, he said he doesn't use hgh, clen, tren, etc.

only straight TEST.

I don't necessarily agree with his statement of Test use being natty, but I can see where he's going with it.

 

[TidWell]

I don't necessarily agree with his statement of Test use being natty, but I can see where he's going with it.

yeah he found a way to justify his Testosterone usage.

 

[Dark God]

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lol o damn

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Kevin Spacey really bulked up there.

 

[Eisenhans]

All of these look like try-hard steroid users. Must be an American thing.

 

[Iroh]

It's amazing how shallow women are when it comes to muscles; howxeasily they are tricked. Like, it doesn't change your genes, doing roids and going to the gym for a year, but women act like guys with a borderline 6-pack are a different species. It's dumb, honestly. I know, I worked on fitness through my 20s, and just started to get out if shape about a year ago.

People like attractive people. Doesn't mean they may not also like character and depth.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

All of these look like try-hard steroid users. Must be an American thing.

I mean I'm sure some women like this look but to me it seems like the male equivalent of Dolly Parton. In shape and muscle head are two very different looks IMHO.

 

[00 Buck]

Post is pretty niave imo. Any actors quick muscle gains should be suspect.

 

[TidWell]

I mean I'm sure some women like this look but to me it seems like the male equivalent of Dolly Parton. In shape and muscle head are two very different looks IMHO.

show me a muscle head because those guys I posted are far from muscle heads they are lean and athletic, a muscle head is someone with bulging hue muscles not Greek statue physiques

These are muscle heads

 

[bad seed]

Jesus, that dude makes Simeon look like a manlet.

 

[TidWell]

Jesus, that dude makes Simeon look like a manlet.

he looks weird not in a cool way either his head is so tiny for his body, a true freak