Gym/Training Muay Thai Gym Q&A

[twellsmt]

That right there should be the flag for you not to train at those gyms if you are serious and want a good support system from other fighters that have the same mindset as you.

Its just weird hearing such mixed reviews. Cause I hear about the clinch at keatkhamtorn being so good, and the boxing at Kaewsamrit and that the overall training at Por Pramuk is very good and intense. But then Ill hear that the majority of the camps in Thailand are geared toward tourists now, and these camps names will occasionally come up. So i dont know...

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

Its just weird hearing such mixed reviews. Cause I hear about the clinch at keatkhamtorn being so good, and the boxing at Kaewsamrit and that the overall training at Por Pramuk is very good and intense. But then Ill hear that the majority of the camps in Thailand are geared toward tourists now, and these camps names will occasionally come up. So i dont know...

There is a huge difference between between being foreigner friendly and being a foreigner camp. All three gyms mentioned above still produce top talent fighting at the highest levels and always will. The foreigner camps of Phuket, Koh Samui, and Koh Phangan have never produced any top Thais. Kaewsamrit may be the busiest of the 3 but they are no where near as busy at Tiger Muaythai or Rawai Muaythai on any given day of the year. Also look at the amount of champions Keatkhamtorn, Por Pramuk, and Kaewsamrit has produced over the years; Very many. Look at how many the foreigner camps have made. "0" Most of the guys that talk about training in Thailand or muaythai in general have never been and they receive 2nd or 3rd hand info from someone else then they regurgitate it to you and shit gets lost in translation and then you bullshit stories like, "TMT has 4 current Lumpini champs or one of the trainers at Suwit muaythai just won the Raja title at 130lbs."

I'm just saying...

 

[twellsmt]

There is a huge difference between between being foreigner friendly and being a foreigner camp. All three gyms mentioned above still produce top talent fighting at the highest levels and always will. The foreigner camps of Phuket, Koh Samui, and Koh Phangan have never produced any top Thais. Kaewsamrit may be the busiest of the 3 but they are no where near as busy at Tiger Muaythai or Rawai Muaythai on any given day of the year. Also look at the amount of champions Keatkhamtorn, Por Pramuk, and Kaewsamrit has produced over the years; Very many. Look at how many the foreigner camps have made. "0" Most of the guys that talk about training in Thailand or muaythai in general have never been and they receive 2nd or 3rd hand info from someone else then they regurgitate it to you and shit gets lost in translation and then you bullshit stories like, "TMT has 4 current Lumpini champs or one of the trainers at Suwit muaythai just won the Raja title at 130lbs."

I'm just saying...

That makes a lot of sense. Thank you very much.

 

[mtfly]

Has anyone trained or any info about Somrak BoxingCamp...Is it recommendable?

 

[THEKOKID]

if anyone is gonna be out in thailand within the next month let me know, im gonna be at sor khamsing and 13 coins!

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

if anyone is gonna be out in thailand within the next month let me know, im gonna be at sor khamsing and 13 coins!

I arrive on April 1st and I know tht Ryukyu Damashi arrives a week before that.

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

Here is a Review of Sitsongpeenong I found on another forum I visit. It is the home of Khem Sitsongpeenong (formerly Khem Fairtex)

Sitsongpeenong Muaythai Camp :: Home Page

Ok guys. I thought I'd write a quick review because there is a real lack of info about this place.

I've been here a week now and came from Phuket to here on the advice of an Austrialian guy I met at Sinbi who had just come from here and thought the training at Sitsongpeenong was much better. He was quite good in the clinch and told me he had learned a ton of new tricks in just his 4 days at Sitsongpeenong and after a week at Sinbi was heading back because the training was better.

The gym is located just outside central Bangkok near the new airport. It is about 200baht for a taxi into the city center. The gym is small and new with 2 rings and 10 bags. I am one of 3 farang training here right now so you get alot of attention from trainers.

Some of the big differences between here and other camps I've been to in Thailand are as follows:

Everything is new, the whole bag area is matted with nice mats so no torn up feet. If you have trained in Thailand before on carpet or concrete you know how big of an issue the condition of your feet can become.

They provide ice cold unlimited free clean water and clean workout towels.

The gym also has very nice bathrooms with showers.

It is an open air gym on the top floor of the building and gets a nice breeze the whole time.

The gym is very clean.

As for the training, they train very hard here. Much, much harder than Sinbi. The training is laid out on the website and is pretty accurate. Lots of conditioning, hand weight shadow boxing, pull ups, sit ups, bag work, push ups, ect. You get really as much time on the pads as you can handle with a trainer but the big difference here from other gyms I have trained at is that when you are spent on the pads doing muaythai they will switch over to boxing mits for as many rounds as you can handle in addition. There is clinch every day for quite some time but not alot of sparring.

The trainers are really good and come with a real pedigree. The guy who runs the gym used to run Fairtex so there is some affiliation between the two camps. There are quite a few thais training at the camp, including one guy who is 18yrs old and just got back from beating aunawat in italy, kem the champ, and jamhrod who is another current lumphini champ.

The only thing to do here is really train. You train so hard it is all you really want to do though besides sleep. There is a large grocery store near with everything western, a pizza place, kfc, dairy queen, a bank, all a few minutes walk. Other than that it is kinda in the middle of nowhere so a taxi would be needed to go places.

There is a large park nearby to run in with a pool for swimming. Sunday there is no training so you can play around in Bangkok. There is a real family atmosphere here and they really take care of you here. The trainers massage you and bring you towels and water in between rounds. The whole gym follows 4 min rds and 30sec breaks so its tough. they are a seriuos gym and the owner is western educated and super nice and can arrange fights on all levels.

The accomodation is super nice, on par with any Western hotel. It has air con, TV, huge and nice bed, super nice bathroom, daily room service, clean towels, soap, toilet paper, and bottled water. There is a rec room with a really nice pool table and a big screen TV with DVD for all the fighters to use. The food is served in a very nice, clean and new restaurant atmosphere. The food is really, really good and meals are served twice a day with huge proportions!

The first week we were here, I was invited to go to Ratchadomnoen Stadium with some people from the gym to see an awesome card. They paid for taxis, drove us home and bought our meals. We were introduced to Sanchai Sor Kingstar by a trainer at our gym who was good friends with him.

I really can't say enough good things about this gym, but I would like to emphasize that the only thing to do here is to train and the training is very hard.

Everyone here treats you with a ton of respect and is super nice. English is somewhat limited here but it is nice to be at a gym in Bangkok with current champions and a real muay thai pedigree. It's fairly expensive but it's really high standard and all inclusive so you won't need to spend any money here. They have a nice selection of weights and one brand new exercise bike. They also have gloves you can use and anything else you could possibly need at the gym.

I hope this helps.

I've only been here a week but I'm going to stay a month. There are no reviews of this gym so I wanted to help people out by posting somewhat early. It is a small gym with very few foreigners training here. When I first got here, I was one of two foreigners training. You do receive a ton of attention from trainers but most of the Thais training here are young, and with a lack of foreigners, there is a lack of sparring and clinch partners. If you are looking for a place with very hard, high level Bangkok training, really nice and clean Western standard accomodation and really good, clean food all inclusive, this is a good place.

If you are looking to experience more of Thailand than just training and sightseeing Bangkok one day a week, this might not be the place for you. Sorry my writing isn't the best, hope this helps!


Edit: I just checked the prices for this very nice gym and they are going up as of April 14th

 

[radman]

Here is a Review of Sitsongpeenong I found on another forum I visit. It is the home of Khem Sitsongpeenong (formerly Khem Fairtex)

Sitsongpeenong Muaythai Camp :: Home Page

Ok guys. I thought I'd write a quick review because there is a real lack of info about this place.

I've been here a week now and came from Phuket to here on the advice of an Austrialian guy I met at Sinbi who had just come from here and thought the training at Sitsongpeenong was much better. He was quite good in the clinch and told me he had learned a ton of new tricks in just his 4 days at Sitsongpeenong and after a week at Sinbi was heading back because the training was better.

The gym is located just outside central Bangkok near the new airport. It is about 200baht for a taxi into the city center. The gym is small and new with 2 rings and 10 bags. I am one of 3 farang training here right now so you get alot of attention from trainers.

Some of the big differences between here and other camps I've been to in Thailand are as follows:

Everything is new, the whole bag area is matted with nice mats so no torn up feet. If you have trained in Thailand before on carpet or concrete you know how big of an issue the condition of your feet can become.

They provide ice cold unlimited free clean water and clean workout towels.

The gym also has very nice bathrooms with showers.

It is an open air gym on the top floor of the building and gets a nice breeze the whole time.

The gym is very clean.

As for the training, they train very hard here. Much, much harder than Sinbi. The training is laid out on the website and is pretty accurate. Lots of conditioning, hand weight shadow boxing, pull ups, sit ups, bag work, push ups, ect. You get really as much time on the pads as you can handle with a trainer but the big difference here from other gyms I have trained at is that when you are spent on the pads doing muaythai they will switch over to boxing mits for as many rounds as you can handle in addition. There is clinch every day for quite some time but not alot of sparring.

The trainers are really good and come with a real pedigree. The guy who runs the gym used to run Fairtex so there is some affiliation between the two camps. There are quite a few thais training at the camp, including one guy who is 18yrs old and just got back from beating aunawat in italy, kem the champ, and jamhrod who is another current lumphini champ.

The only thing to do here is really train. You train so hard it is all you really want to do though besides sleep. There is a large grocery store near with everything western, a pizza place, kfc, dairy queen, a bank, all a few minutes walk. Other than that it is kinda in the middle of nowhere so a taxi would be needed to go places.

There is a large park nearby to run in with a pool for swimming. Sunday there is no training so you can play around in Bangkok. There is a real family atmosphere here and they really take care of you here. The trainers massage you and bring you towels and water in between rounds. The whole gym follows 4 min rds and 30sec breaks so its tough. they are a seriuos gym and the owner is western educated and super nice and can arrange fights on all levels.

The accomodation is super nice, on par with any Western hotel. It has air con, TV, huge and nice bed, super nice bathroom, daily room service, clean towels, soap, toilet paper, and bottled water. There is a rec room with a really nice pool table and a big screen TV with DVD for all the fighters to use. The food is served in a very nice, clean and new restaurant atmosphere. The food is really, really good and meals are served twice a day with huge proportions!

The first week we were here, I was invited to go to Ratchadomnoen Stadium with some people from the gym to see an awesome card. They paid for taxis, drove us home and bought our meals. We were introduced to Sanchai Sor Kingstar by a trainer at our gym who was good friends with him.

I really can't say enough good things about this gym, but I would like to emphasize that the only thing to do here is to train and the training is very hard.

Everyone here treats you with a ton of respect and is super nice. English is somewhat limited here but it is nice to be at a gym in Bangkok with current champions and a real muay thai pedigree. It's fairly expensive but it's really high standard and all inclusive so you won't need to spend any money here. They have a nice selection of weights and one brand new exercise bike. They also have gloves you can use and anything else you could possibly need at the gym.

I hope this helps.

I've only been here a week but I'm going to stay a month. There are no reviews of this gym so I wanted to help people out by posting somewhat early. It is a small gym with very few foreigners training here. When I first got here, I was one of two foreigners training. You do receive a ton of attention from trainers but most of the Thais training here are young, and with a lack of foreigners, there is a lack of sparring and clinch partners. If you are looking for a place with very hard, high level Bangkok training, really nice and clean Western standard accomodation and really good, clean food all inclusive, this is a good place.

If you are looking to experience more of Thailand than just training and sightseeing Bangkok one day a week, this might not be the place for you. Sorry my writing isn't the best, hope this helps!


Edit: I just checked the prices for this very nice gym and they are going up as of April 14th

This is all part of 13 Coin or the other conencted gyms within the area?

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

This is all part of 13 Coin or the other conencted gyms within the area?

No. Sitsongpeenong is it's own gym. The 3 gyms that comprise 13 coins are Sinkboxing, Orono gym, and 13 coins.

 

[ArchAngelos]

Great thread Cali.

I noticed that Rawai was mentioned a few times but nobody reviewed it.

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

Great thread Cali.

I noticed that Rawai was mentioned a few times but nobody reviewed it.

I was there for 10 days back in 2007 after training at Pornboonmee in Isaan. I could write a review but it would be 3 years old. It would not be accurate to today's Rawai. shortly after I left, they added two more rings and space to train.

 

[ArchAngelos]

I was there for a month in July-August 2007. I know that since then they have brought in Namsaknoi as head trainer along with a few others. One of the original owners also sold his half of the camp and opened Promthep just a few minutes down the road.

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

I was there for a month in July-August 2007. I know that since then they have brought in Namsaknoi as head trainer along with a few others. One of the original owners also sold his half of the camp and opened Promthep just a few minutes down the road.

Danny Avison was a cool guy. Do you know if Phromthep muaythai is actually close to Phromthep Cape?

 

[ffejk]

Any reviews on Muay Thai Plaza/Windy Sports gym? Ill be in there in April...

 

[Polopolo]

Man, I thought TMT was the gym to train at. Glad I stumbled upon this thread. Big Thanks to all the knowledgeable posters here. I'm married w/ a baby and a demanding FT job so I won't be training in Thailand anytime soon but it's good to know "what's what" when it comes to MT training camps. I'm assuming I'm just like most of the other sherdoggers reading this thread. We all fall into the same category of knowledge...which is the bottom rung lol. Thanks for the knowledge and informative posts.

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

Man, I thought TMT was the gym to train at. Glad I stumbled upon this thread. Big Thanks to all the knowledgeable posters here. I'm married w/ a baby and a demanding FT job so I won't be training in Thailand anytime soon but it's good to know "what's what" when it comes to MT training camps. I'm assuming I'm just like most of the other sherdoggers reading this thread. We all fall into the same category of knowledge...which is the bottom rung lol. Thanks for the knowledge and informative posts.

Sounds like you have your hands full Polopolo. You are not the only one with a demanding full time job, wife and kid. I fall into that category also but I still make time. I'm a firm believer in the saying, "If you don't make time, you'll never have any." But it does help tremendously that my wife is from Thailand. :icon_chee Don't wait too long though my friend cause you don't want to kick yourself in the ass later on in life.

Also, TMT is a great gym if you are looking to meet new people and get the summer camp feel all over again and get "OK" training. Some may say that you can good training at TMT but I find that hard to believe when you have 120 other westerners there that look forward to a night of hard drinking after training. The two mix really well if that's what you want but if you desire training where the trainers will push you if you give your all and not looking to party like it's 1999, go somewhere else.

 

[Polopolo]

Sounds like you have your hands full Polopolo. You are not the only one with a demanding full time job, wife and kid. I fall into that category also but I still make time. I'm a firm believer in the saying, "If you don't make time, you'll never have any." But it does help tremendously that my wife is from Thailand. :icon_chee Don't wait too long though my friend cause you don't want to kick yourself in the ass later on in life.

lol, a Thai wife is a big help!!!

Not sure when I'll be able to pull off a trip like this but it's on the radar for sure. First and foremost, I need actual formal training in MT. I'm looking into local schools for that.

Thanks again, CCB, for your insight in this thread!

 

[cali_chute_boxe]

lol, a Thai wife is a big help!!!

Not sure when I'll be able to pull off a trip like this but it's on the radar for sure. First and foremost, I need actual formal training in MT. I'm looking into local schools for that.

Thanks again, CCB, for your insight in this thread!

Getting some decent training is a good idea but being in shape when you arrive is much more important. Where are you in the world?

 

[Polopolo]

Getting some decent training is a good idea but being in shape when you arrive is much more important. Where are you in the world?

I'd be starting from ground zero on the technique side. Actually, I've trained myself (lol) on my heavy bag in my garage so, more than likely, I'm going to have a ton of flaws that will have to be worked out/trained out. In other words, I'm lower than ground zero. I've been playing soccer all my life and although I'm a tad overweight right now, I'm in decent shape. Of course, I wouldn't spend a dime on a trip like this until I was in top shape. Otherwise, I wouldn't get as much out of it as I could.

BTW - I pm'd you.

 

[adaminexile]

was wondering if there was any new information on Sitsongpeenong? i'm graduating in may and am looking to plan a two-month trip at a no-bs camp that gives me no choice but to learn. questions:

how welcoming is the camp to beginners? i have trained primarily BJJ and have limited muay thai experience. should i look elsewhere?

how much money per month, in all and including extra, did you spend? what sort of spending habits did you keep and how much did you go out and do?

how much culture can you soak up on your stay? should i look into paying for an extra week or two to see sights if i want my training to be a priority?