Muay Thai Glove help

[LRjiujitsu]

Hey guys, ive been reading a few of the different glove reviews and questions, but thaught it would be best for me to post my specific problem so i could get some info. Okay so im doing muay thai classes now, but im not too happy with my gloves at all. i have these.. Top Contender Thai-Style Sparring Gloves-Combatsports.com I didnt know much about anything before i baught them, sadly. The problem im finding with them, is that even after it being broken in, its extremly hard to open up the palm, and when u do it starts to stretch the material and rip on the inside and get extremly loose. Im not sure if this is just because i have small hands / wrists though. The thumb also doesnt realy move into the spot i think it should, and its a struggle just to make a fist tightly.

I want to get a pair of gloves for sparring, but could occasionaly be used on the bag, because i will eventualy get bag gloves too.

So what im looking for is a glove in the 40-89$ price range, unless a few $ more will make the big difference. I have small hands and wrists, so any idea if lace up / hook and loop versions of the partial gloves im looking into would be better? Not to sound dumb, but i would prefer a white pair (not realy sure, i just think white gloves look baddass) So anyway, ive been looking into things like Grant Campeon Lace-Up Boxing Training Gloves-Combatsports.com, Fighting Sports Pro Training Gloves - Elastic | Fighting Sports Boxing Gloves | Fighting Sports | Shop by Brand from Title Boxing (i know it looks like a winning knockoff, but still an good?) uhmm im also looking at the twins specials, not too sure about fairtex because i dont know if it would fit the same as the kind i have now that i dont like, any windys ? Raja Boxing Muay Thai Gloves Velcro Closure [RBGV-1-4] those didnt look too bad, although i dont know what they look like compared to others, and lastly, maybe the triumph united heatseekers or thai silencer

Im just trying to narrow my search down a bit, ive tried finding comparison pictures of some of the gloves in a 16 oz so i could somewhat determine if the shape will fit and feel good for me. Im hoping i explained the trouble im finding with my other gloves good enough, so any suggestions would help. I just want something a little bit more on the compact side so it doesnt feel like im punching with giant pillows, or atleast something i can open to block a jab good and make a good fist. Again, i mostly just wondering how some of those gloves compair in size / mobility. I will continue to search the forums, but any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[JKDEastNashvill]

Cageside or Triumph United Thai Silencers are the best deals I've seen.
Stick with Thai style gloves

 

[JKDEastNashvill]

For a lower priced option that is still GOOD, KO Fightgear

 

[dtravis92]

ApemanTraining Gloves - $79.00*USD : Gorilla Fight Gear!, MMA Supplies

These gloves are great, ill be writing a review on them in a day or so. They are really compact (about the same size or a little smaller than a pair of twins 12 oz) but have great padding. You can make a really good fist with them too, and the compact striking surface means your punches actually feel right. They have a shorter cuff than my heatseekers or top kings, but i can actually get the hook and loop tight. You should definitely consider these.

edit: ill also have a lot of comparison photos when i write the review(probably tomorrow)

 

[ECS123]

* Fairtex BGV1's,
* Twins Special BGVL-3's, or FBGV's,
* Top King Air Velcros,
* Boon Sport BGV,
* KO Fightgear Sparring Gloves.

:icon_chee

 

[LRjiujitsu]

ApemanTraining Gloves - $79.00*USD : Gorilla Fight Gear!, MMA Supplies

These gloves are great, ill be writing a review on them in a day or so. They are really compact (about the same size or a little smaller than a pair of twins 12 oz) but have great padding. You can make a really good fist with them too, and the compact striking surface means your punches actually feel right. They have a shorter cuff than my heatseekers or top kings, but i can actually get the hook and loop tight. You should definitely consider these.

edit: ill also have a lot of comparison photos when i write the review(probably tomorrow)

Thanks for the info, any way you could post comparison pictures of you actualy wearing them? im curious to see what they look like on the hands, because i find it tough to compare how it would fit just by looking at it compared to other gloves i havent seen :/

* Fairtex BGV1's,
* Twins Special BGVL-3's, or FBGV's,
* Top King Air Velcros,
* Boon Sport BGV,
* KO Fightgear Sparring Gloves.

:icon_chee

thanks for the suggestions, i have a few questions after looking into those though. One would ne, why the twins special bgvl 3's over the 1's? And how do they compair to the fairtex bgv1's? I want something good for clinching and that i can make a good fist with and open up good without stretching out the glove because i have small hands, and realy want to avoid something like my other glove i listed in the origional post. Even after being broken in, they just would hardly open in and were very uncormterable, also the hook and loop hardly closed tight enough, so if i could be shown a compareson or told the difference in the twins and fairtex like in wrist support, thumb placement ect, that would be awsome, as i found a white version in both that i realy like =p

not realy a fan of the top kings, i dont know why, just not my style :/ I heard the boons were good, but im worried the cuff and glove itself may be a little too long for me.

any info on why to choose a velcro over a lace would be cool too, im just afraid the velcro wont be as tight for some reason, unless those models only come in hook and loop.

Lastly, i watched this video.. YouTube - Fighting Sports Training Gloves Review at ratethisgear.com I saw some compareson pictures of those, and they appear to be on the smaller side which would be good for me, but the wrist looks kind of wide? unless its just not tightened. I dont know why, but im leaning tawrds those (although im not sure if i would go with the lace up, or velcro) And i was still looking at the triumph united gloves. I heard the heatseekers are on the smaller side, but i dont realy know, that and if anyone knows the major difference between them, and the thai silencers, or anything with pictures that could show me differences

sorry for all the writing, im a newb just looking to narrow down my search to ask more educated questions .

 

[LRjiujitsu]

ApemanTraining Gloves - $79.00*USD : Gorilla Fight Gear!, MMA Supplies

These gloves are great, ill be writing a review on them in a day or so. They are really compact (about the same size or a little smaller than a pair of twins 12 oz) but have great padding. You can make a really good fist with them too, and the compact striking surface means your punches actually feel right. They have a shorter cuff than my heatseekers or top kings, but i can actually get the hook and loop tight. You should definitely consider these.

edit: ill also have a lot of comparison photos when i write the review(probably tomorrow)

Thanks for the info, any way you could post comparison pictures of you actualy wearing them? im curious to see what they look like on the hands, because i find it tough to compare how it would fit just by looking at it compared to other gloves i havent seen :/

* Fairtex BGV1's,
* Twins Special BGVL-3's, or FBGV's,
* Top King Air Velcros,
* Boon Sport BGV,
* KO Fightgear Sparring Gloves.

:icon_chee

thanks for the suggestions, i have a few questions after looking into those though. One would ne, why the twins special bgvl 3's over the 1's? And how do they compair to the fairtex bgv1's? I want something good for clinching and that i can make a good fist with and open up good without stretching out the glove because i have small hands, and realy want to avoid something like my other glove i listed in the origional post. Even after being broken in, they just would hardly open in and were very uncormterable, also the hook and loop hardly closed tight enough, so if i could be shown a compareson or told the difference in the twins and fairtex like in wrist support, thumb placement ect, that would be awsome, as i found a white version in both that i realy like =p

not realy a fan of the top kings, i dont know why, just not my style :/ I heard the boons were good, but im worried the cuff and glove itself may be a little too long for me.

any info on why to choose a velcro over a lace would be cool too, im just afraid the velcro wont be as tight for some reason, unless those models only come in hook and loop.

Lastly, i watched this video.. YouTube - Fighting Sports Training Gloves Review at ratethisgear.com I saw some compareson pictures of those, and they appear to be on the smaller side which would be good for me, but the wrist looks kind of wide? unless its just not tightened. I dont know why, but im leaning tawrds those (although im not sure if i would go with the lace up, or velcro) And i was still looking at the triumph united gloves. I heard the heatseekers are on the smaller side, but i dont realy know, that and if anyone knows the major difference between them, and the thai silencers, or anything with pictures that could show me differences, ohh and i just remembered, any info on cut or performance of those grant gloves or any other?

sorry for all the writing, im a newb just looking to narrow down my search to ask more educated questions .

 

[LRjiujitsu]

ApemanTraining Gloves - $79.00*USD : Gorilla Fight Gear!, MMA Supplies

These gloves are great, ill be writing a review on them in a day or so. They are really compact (about the same size or a little smaller than a pair of twins 12 oz) but have great padding. You can make a really good fist with them too, and the compact striking surface means your punches actually feel right. They have a shorter cuff than my heatseekers or top kings, but i can actually get the hook and loop tight. You should definitely consider these.

edit: ill also have a lot of comparison photos when i write the review(probably tomorrow)

Thanks for the info, any way you could post comparison pictures of you actualy wearing them? im curious to see what they look like on the hands, because i find it tough to compare how it would fit just by looking at it compared to other gloves i havent seen :/

* Fairtex BGV1's,
* Twins Special BGVL-3's, or FBGV's,
* Top King Air Velcros,
* Boon Sport BGV,
* KO Fightgear Sparring Gloves.

:icon_chee

thanks for the suggestions, i have a few questions after looking into those though. One would ne, why the twins special bgvl 3's over the 1's? And how do they compair to the fairtex bgv1's? I want something good for clinching and that i can make a good fist with and open up good without stretching out the glove because i have small hands, and realy want to avoid something like my other glove i listed in the origional post. Even after being broken in, they just would hardly open in and were very uncormterable, also the hook and loop hardly closed tight enough, so if i could be shown a compareson or told the difference in the twins and fairtex like in wrist support, thumb placement ect, that would be awsome, as i found a white version in both that i realy like =p

not realy a fan of the top kings, i dont know why, just not my style :/ I heard the boons were good, but im worried the cuff and glove itself may be a little too long for me.

any info on why to choose a velcro over a lace would be cool too, im just afraid the velcro wont be as tight for some reason, unless those models only come in hook and loop.

Lastly, i watched this video.. YouTube - Fighting Sports Training Gloves Review at ratethisgear.com I saw some compareson pictures of those, and they appear to be on the smaller side which would be good for me, but the wrist looks kind of wide? unless its just not tightened. I dont know why, but im leaning tawrds those (although im not sure if i would go with the lace up, or velcro) And i was still looking at the triumph united gloves. I heard the heatseekers are on the smaller side, but i dont realy know, that and if anyone knows the major difference between them, and the thai silencers, or anything with pictures that could show me differences, ohh and i just remembered, any info on cut or performance of those grant gloves or any other?

sorry for all the writing, im a newb just looking to narrow down my search to ask more educated questions .

 

[LRjiujitsu]

I had typed up a long reply, but it turns out it didnt go threw or something :/ so hopefully i remember everything i was going to ask/say

I read your review on the apemans, they look/sound interesting, ill deffinitly look into it :]

and ECS 123 thanks for the suggestions, i have some questions though. First is with the fairtex bgv1's , i heard that the hand compartment is rather large, which may be bad for me because i have realy small hands. i realy want to avoid the problem i had with my other gloves, which were loos and big on the inside and not tight arround the wrist, and also prevented me from opening up my palm and making a tight fist, so do the fairtex still allow u to open and close your palm easaly for clinchwork, and or is the glove comparement and overall glove on the large side? Im trying to narrow down my search and they seem the most similer to the Twins specials bgvl3's. I found both gloves in white which is an astheticly pleasing plus to me, however any comparison you may be able to offer on the two brands would be great so i can narrow my search. Like, are the twins possibly better suited for smaller hands? or are they on the loose side as well, and which do you think allowes you to make a proper fist or is more compact and smaller scaled? thumb placement ect..(because i found with the straight thumb on my top contender thai style gloves, it wasrealy awkward and not a real fist that was being made) Any info on this would be awsome

Moving along, i wasnt realy fond of the top kings, or boons. Im not sure why, they're just not my style i guess, although i heard great things of them.

next on the list i just want to ask about those fighting sports gloves, i sawa review here : YouTube - Fighting Sports Training Gloves Review at ratethisgear.com that review sounds good to me, it seems like it hasaa tight inside so it would fit my small hands, and he sais its more compact and smaller scaled. Those are lace ups, but the wrist looks kind of loose? unless its just not tightened. Which leads to my other question, they sell those in the hook and loop and lace ups, any major differences between them? or just that lace ups u need someone to do it for you, or is that not always the case. Im not sure about how easy it is to open your palm on those though, but the fist seems to be proper and good, what do you guys think about them? Also on the same note as those, are the united triumph gloves. Theres another review by the same person, and again, it states it should be good for a smaller hand, but like the fighting sports gloves, i dont know how well the palm could be opened / closed. and on a last note with triumph united, any info on the diference between the heatseekers (laceup and hook and loop...i think the laceups look sweet, even if they dont come in white ) and the thai silencers?

This is for muay thai so i dont even know if the fighting sports/TU's are meant for the clinchwork as much (im assuming if its meant for clinchwork, i wont have a problem opening and closing my hand/palm, or if they are geared more tawrds regular boxing

sorry for all the questions, im just trying to become a more educated so i can ask the right questions once i narrow it down to like 2 pairs or something, thanks again ! If someone cant point me in the direction of some of the gloves listed with pictures compared to other gloves i listed in the same size that would be cool (preferably 16oz cause im using it for sparring)

edit:and if we can throw windys training gloves in the mix , im assuming theyre more comparable to fairtex and twin

 

[LRjiujitsu]

and this may sound dumb, but it may effect some other opinions i get on this or answers to those questions, i was readng in some places, that if you dont weigh much, you should get 14 oz gloves, im only 5'4 and about 120 lbs lol, so i just want to feel comfortable with a pair of gloves, you know? But again would greatly appreciate some feedback on the other stuff

 

[ECS123]

The Fairtex BGV1's are a top rated MT glove, and while there is slightly more lateral room in the hand compartment than the Twins, it is by no means IMHO, excessive or a problem. The Twins have a nice snug form fitting hand compartment, but are larger in overall outside size, than the Fairtex BGV1's which are quite compact in exterior size. The padding on the Fairtex is on the dense side, and the Twins are a softer padded glove. I own both, and really like both, they are just different.

As far as the Fighting Sports gloves, I have not personally seen the version that you refer to, but I did see the "Rate This Gear" guy's review on those gloves and have seen some of the Fighting Sports Pro products. They seem to be well made, and the leather is definately top quality. I think Title did themselves a disservice by using a marketing campaign that drew comparasions to Winning, because diehard Winning fans were going to be all over that right from the get go. At one point, I did see the Fighting Sports Pro gloves available for $69.95 and that would have probably been a nice buy, but if the current list price of $99.95 is correct, and there is not a price reduction when placed into your shopping cart, personally, I would recommend the Ringside IMF Tech Training Gloves in Lace ups.

As far as the "Hook and Loop Wrap Around" vs. "Lace Ups", IMHO, again the "Hook and Loop Wrap Around" provides easier on and off, but the "Lace Ups" unquestionable afford much better wrist support. Generally speaking people who are going to do MT stick to MT gloves, and people who are going to do more Western Style Boxing stick to the Western Style Boxing gloves. Although, there are no hard and fast rules where this is concerned, as "Clamp" who instructs, trains, and fights MT, seems to consistently use and recommend the TU Heatseekers, and Ring to Cage Gloves.

Personally, I do not see any problem at your weight and height with you using a 14oz. to 16oz. glove, just check with your instructor. My recommendations based upon what you have stated would be:

* Fairtex BGV1 in 14 or 16oz.,
* Twins BGVL-3 or FBGV in 14oz.,
* KO Fightgear Sparring Gloves in 16oz., (compact outside, snug hand compartment).

* TU Heatseekers in Lace Ups in 14 or 16oz.,
* Ringside IMF Tech Training Gloves in Lace Ups in 14 or 16oz.

Can't comment on the Windy gloves as I have never owned them, and if you are interested in the Fighting Sports Pro Gloves, dig around and see what you can find out about the level of wrist support they provide. I have also heard good things about the Cageside Gloves, and the TU Silencers.

On a side note, I do recall "Clamp" saying, he did not care for the TU Heatseekers in Hook and Loop, because the lack of support on the inside palm side reminded him of "flappy vag......s". You may want to avoid those in that style, but people seem to really like the Lace Ups.

I hope this helps.

:icon_chee

 

[LRjiujitsu]

thanks for the extensive reply, it helped alot ! I wish there were more stores on long island for me to try some of these gloves out, the place i train at has alot of guys using winnings , and those are out of my budget considering im more of a jiu jitsu guy and only starting up the muay thai now.

Im wondering, would u mind sending me a picture of your fairtex 16's next to the twins 16's ? unless they are 14's or something, doesnt matter, just curious to see how the visuals compare. Im liking how they both come in white, hopefully that version isnt hard to find lol...a picture of the hand making a fist would be awsome unless u know of any posts that show good comparisons. My search function isnt working at all, it keeping having errors. Lastly on this particular topic, could you tell me which one is easier to open up the palm on ? I realy want a glove that wont have the same problem my last ones did...and if there is any substantial difference in hand placement/thumb placement between these two? and i saw how u mentioned a difference in performance for the other gloves in hand loop and lace versions, for these gloves, it is just better to go for the hook and loop? (just wondering because i saw those hook and loop converters for like 7$ which seem cool unless they dont work well) Once i can see this, ill narrow it down to one of these vs one of the ones im going to mention now..

someone at my gym uses the imf training gloves, ive tried them, deffinitly good for making a fist / ect, only the wrist is a little bit thick for me i think, feels a little too bulky for me to be comfterable. I think theres a review on here by clamp for the heatseekers, im not sure, maybe he will come by and throw in some advice , but yeah ill deffinitly keep looking into those fighting sports gloves from the rate my gear video, the white laceups would probably be the rout i would go, as i feel it would be a more snug fit then the velcro, but im not sure, ill have to look for more reviews if i can find any, most seem to be from people who wanting winnings so they talk negitivly about it being a knock off lol. However, if i cant find any good stuff on it, i may just narrowing it down to the heatseekers v2 laceups and either the twins/fairtex (again a comparison picture or two would b awsome!) I have a feeling the fighting sports would be a little bit more compact then the TU'sbut im afraid they wont be good for palm opening and clinch work. It looks like the heat seekers have a pretty large scale size, and long on the wrist which im not sure would be good for me...which leads to my last question

My instructor wouldnt mind the 14's unless you think its better to go with the 16's. (lets just say they arent shy about sparring, but i dont want to piss people off :/ but if i ever do get a fight down the line and dont have money for another pair of gloves, i dont want a pair thats so soft it wont hurt my opponant lol....unless that just sounds stupid and you dont use your own gloves for the fight, sorry im a newb lol) I just was thinking 14 would give me more of a feel of my real hands and free-er mobility cause im small, but dont want to sacrifice too much blocking ability by someone going at me who wayy outweighs me lol... so in these various gloves, is there a large difference in size/scale from the 14's/16's? like enough where it would change what you said about the fairtex and twins per say?

 

[dtravis92]

and this may sound dumb, but it may effect some other opinions i get on this or answers to those questions, i was readng in some places, that if you dont weigh much, you should get 14 oz gloves, im only 5'4 and about 120 lbs lol, so i just want to feel comfortable with a pair of gloves, you know? But again would greatly appreciate some feedback on the other stuff

14 oz's would be fine at that weight

 

[Jesus X]

I getting some lace up custom shevlin for boxing,but I don't use lace ups for MT you don't need that much support, this is coming from a guy with 3X broken right hand.

 

[Jesus X]

at my gym people get bloody noses with 16's but we are all pretty large I'm one of the smaller guys at 170 LBS my gym doesnt allow 14 oz for anyone over 140lbs ,but if your both comfortable with 14's and it allowed at your gym go for it.

 

[LRjiujitsu]

thanks, ill probably go with 14's then, atleast if i go with fairtex or twins, no info on the others yet, but im going to look up anything i can find on those two on here incase someone jumps in and has info. Thanks again for some of the info in the PMs jesusx, and i hope ECS123 has some input on my last long post with some answers

 

[ECS123]

Shown below, all in 16oz. Left to right:

Fairtex BGV1N "Nation Print",
Top King Air Velcro,
Twins Special BGVL-3.



You may want to seriously consider the Twins Special BGVL-3 in 14oz. in White solid color (Not shown).

Or for a more wild choice design the Twins Special Fancy Gloves FBGV-9 Tattoo Pattern in White/Black (mine are shown below in 16oz.).





Ps. "Generally" speaking MT gloves will be better suited to being able to open the mitt part of the glove for clinch work, than most Western Style Boxing Gloves.

:icon_chee

 

[LRjiujitsu]

thanks for the pictures! But ugh, those fairtex are looking pretty sweet compared to the twins...i would deffinitly go with 14 oz twins if i picked them over the fairtex. I still need to look at some pictures of the size difference compred to 14 and 16 fairtex bgvl1's if i can find any or if you know of any. Any yeah im guessing i should eliminte the fighting sports, and heatseekers, since i want one that can open the palm easy (in your opinion, which do you think out of the fairtx and twins is easier? and makes a better propper first?)

The fighting sport pro training gloves and heatseekers are more boxing styled then muay thai correct? Im reading clamps review and threat on the heatseekers, i wish i could get a comparison between these two so i could eliminate one, and then go from there. I may have to post aquestion there or PMing clamp and seeing if he knows any difference between them, But yeah, those twins 16's look pretty big, and at my weight i dont think they would mind 14's unless theres not a big difference in size

 

[ECS123]

There is really not a significant exterior size difference between the 14oz. and 16oz. BGV1's, or a significant amount of difference in clinching ability between the Twins and Fairtex. I am sure "Clamp" or numerous other people on here who purchased the Heatseekers can give you some insight on those.

Clamp is using the Heatseekers in the videos, he just posted in the Ring to Cage Target thread review in the G&E Reviews section.

:icon_chee

 

[LRjiujitsu]

thanks ill go check that out now !
Edit: They deffinitly look cool, lol the guy with the shield is soo tall. I dont think that will be a good choice for me, they look realy long, i have long arms for my height, but still, i think those may be a little too far down on the forarm for me atleast, unless all lace ups are like that? so far, i think the fight sports ill consider more then those unless they go down just as far, or if thats normal and okay

Sorry about mentioning the palm opening so much, thats just my most major concern because my old gloves sucked at it, and pretty much ruined and stretched out the inside from trying to open my hand lol. so as long as both of these are good at that, im sure ill be happy with either. Now i just need to find out about those other two, although i probably wont go with them, atleast not now unless i get more information

and when u said the bgv1 difference between 14 and 16oz, are u talking about the fairtex, or did u mean bgv3's for twins? or is there no substantial difference from 14 to 16 in either. Im leaning more tawrds the twins for right now, even though i like how the fairtex seem smaller profile, but if the 14 twins are smaller then 16 fairtex in overall size, ill probably go with those for sure.