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I think we should change a recent (proven beyond a doubt not old) tradition to suit a particular group if the majority of society deems it acceptable.

Agreed. This is the only sensible position. But the question is...what happens if the majority of society doesn't deem it acceptable?

I believe people have the right to combat that change by bringing in their theories and opinions, and I also realize that the people pushing for that change and have a vested interest in it don't need to sit quietly while people shit on them.

I agree with this too but I"m curious what you mean by "people shit on them". How are they being shitted on and whose doing it?
 
You don't deserve to have a platform for your voice, glennrod. Your posts demonstrate clearly to everyone that you're not even a mediocre intellectual. You are a below average, and extremely limited thinker when it comes to these topics. A notch below TCK of that's possible. Which is a shame, because you've contributed well on other occasions in the heavies.

That is some serious arrogance. A world run with those principals would be full on totalitarian.
 
Agreed. This is the only sensible position. But the question is...what happens if the majority of society doesn't deem it acceptable?

Then it doesn't get passed, as it hasn't for all of America's history until recently
 
Agreed. This is the only sensible position. But the question is...what happens if the majority of society doesn't deem it acceptable?

Then they keep running media campaigns until people get with the program
 
Then it doesn't get passed, as it hasn't for all of America's history until recently

Wow, so we actually agree on this topic. Its up to society. Thats been my position for years at this point.
 
Then they keep running media campaigns until people get with the program
Or: Over time people recognize mistaken positions and views shift.
Like, you know, how it actually happens.
 
Then they keep running media campaigns until people get with the program

And you are the one who is "insane"?

you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tightly from where im sitting
 
Or: Over time people recognize mistaken positions and views shift.
Like, you know, how it actually happens.

Nah, it's top down. It looks organic, but it isn't.
 
Wow, so we actually agree on this topic. Its up to society. Thats been my position for years at this point.

That's fine and all, but you also think homosexual marriage will be overall bad for society, and I tend to think your arguments are flimsy if not mistaken. But hey, yeah, society decides morals, which are subjective, blah blah blah.
 
Oh someone else ganging up on TCK huh? "a notch above tk of that's possible"?, thanks for recognising my contributions to the mainstream shit hole that is the heavies, I appreciate that, I also see TCK as a solid poster, so im not going to feel disparaged by that particular remark. In my eyes you are beneath me, simply because everybody deserves a platform for their voice as long as they are not peddling hate, which im not, you have simply decided that I am beneath you because I don't support gay marriage, and quite frankly, that is dissapointing

You ever notice the utter bitterness that reaks off of these guys posts? Its almost like they are super frustrated that their insults just bounce right off of posters like you and me and their posts just get more and more bitter. Until finally they stop engaging you. But you can tell they are still bitter about it because they want to talk about how they are not engaging you and then try and get others to stop as well.

This is their game tho, especially Dochtor and Logical. They basically mine a thread looking for someone to say they don't support gay marriage and then they start in with the "bigot" stuff. Very amateur stuff...practically see through.
 
And you are the one who is "insane"?

you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tightly from where im sitting

Glennrod, before you continue, please know that the dude thinks that both the Democrats and Republicans are controlled by a shadow government connected to the Illuminati, the Scrolls of the Elder Zion are real, and the world banks are actually an evil entity tied directly to the Vatican.

Now, as you were.
 
And you are the one who is "insane"?

you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tightly from where im sitting
Uh... his position is that the illuminati wants you to accept gay marriage. This is necessarily the case because everything is orchestrated from the "top down" and at the top aren't politicians or even corporate magnates but some behind the scenes group over them all.
 
Uh... his position is that the illuminati wants you to accept gay marriage. This is necessarily the case because everything is orchestrated from the "top down" and at the top aren't politicians or even corporate magnates but some behind the scenes group over them all.

Don't forget that group wrote the Scrolls of Elder Zion, and possibly gives all of the US' money to the vatican and so the US has to make up that money by selling crack.
 
Glennrod, before you continue, please know that the dude thinks that both the Democrats and Republicans are controlled by a shadow government connected to the Illuminati, the Scrolls of the Elder Zion are real, and the world banks are actually an evil entity tied directly to the Vatican.

Now, as you were.

Are you serious?

I know IDL has posted some far fetch things...is he really out waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy out there?

Actually let me just ask him.

IDL, is what Jukai posted above accurate about your viewpoints?
 
Glennrod, before you continue, please know that the dude thinks that both the Democrats and Republicans are controlled by a shadow government connected to the Illuminati, the Scrolls of the Elder Zion are real, and the world banks are actually an evil entity tied directly to the Vatican.

Now, as you were.
Ha. I'm leaving but looks like we're just going to post the same things anyway.
 
That's fine and all, but you also think homosexual marriage will be overall bad for society, and I tend to think your arguments are flimsy if not mistaken. But hey, yeah, society decides morals, which are subjective, blah blah blah.

Uh, no I don't. You should pay closer attention to what I actually post and not let bitter posters like Dochtor and LI influence you so much.
 
Uh, no I don't. You should pay closer attention to what I actually post and not let bitter posters like Dochtor and LI influence you so much.

Didn't you post a study about how a man thinks more X and a woman thinks more Y than completely took it out of context and equated it to gay marriage and how a child isn't going to get enough X or Y?

Or was that someone else?

Because I am pretty sure that was you.
 
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