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That’s his brother and I believe it was after the Weidman win. Mousasi wasn’t happy after the weird ending of the fight
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I’m in the middle here, I don’t think Mousasi is a GOAT middleweight, but his resume is still ridiculously impressive. He may be the best middleweight to never win UFC gold.
Only thing I don’t like is, his fans seem to disregard Hall’s win over him because Mousasi got that one back, but they like to think highly of his upkick KO win over Jacare and disregard the fact that Jacare got that one back in dominant fashion himself years later while both were in their prime. You could argue that Mousasi’s crazy upkick KO over Jacare was as fluky as Hall’s crazy finish over him considering how both rematches went. I just don’t like double standards. What’s the difference? Convenience I guess.
Still a great fighter though. That really shouldn’t be disputed.
Only thing I don’t like is, his fans seem to disregard Hall’s win over him because Mousasi got that one back, but they like to think highly of his upkick KO win over Jacare and disregard the fact that Jacare got that one back in dominant fashion himself years later while both were in their prime. You could argue that Mousasi’s crazy upkick KO over Jacare was as fluky as Hall’s crazy finish over him considering how both rematches went. I just don’t like double standards. What’s the difference? Convenience I guess.
Still a great fighter though. That really shouldn’t be disputed.
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You're just salty.
*Lost to Machida after 2 torn ACL's and 1 year layoff in Brazil against the best shape ever Lyoto. He couldn't even kick after the first round because of his knee. Mousasi outstruck Lyoto 66-35 in that fight. Mousasi beat Lyoto in the rematch
*Mousasi beat Jacare on 10 fight winning streak, Jacare beat Mousasi on 1 fight winning streak while still recovering from the surgeries. Jacare also said that he doesn't want to fight him the third time because he admitted Mousasi had a bad night and he had a great night, you can watch the interview yourself.
*Have you seen the Hall rematch? I guess not.
*King Mo popped for Drostanolone in Strikeforce.
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Mousasi beat Hector Lombard and knocked out Jacare both around their primes. Also beat Ovince St Preux and Mark Hunt which is really impressive for a middleweight. He has a ton of good fighters on his resume regardless of their status at the time, it's still impressive and you have to give Mousasi credit for his own self preservation to fight so long.
I see what you mean about the timing of some of his wins, but rankings can be really subjective, and this is a matchup oriented sport. Every fight is an oppurtunity to lose badly. It's remarkable Mousasi has only be koe'd once.
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Mousasi should’ve got a TS against Bisping instead of Hendo. He would’ve destroyed Bisping and had a legendary career with championship belts in every major MMA org.
wins over Leites, Santos, Belford, hall, Weidman and the UFC didn’t give him a title shot is criminal. This is why “title defenses” is a joke when comparing legacies
wins over Leites, Santos, Belford, hall, Weidman and the UFC didn’t give him a title shot is criminal. This is why “title defenses” is a joke when comparing legacies
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Mousasi beat Jacare on 10 fight winning streak, Jacare beat Mousasi on 1 fight winning streak while still recovering from the surgeries. Jacare also said that he doesn't want to fight him the third time because he admitted Mousasi had a bad night and he had a great night, you can watch the interview yourself.
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Not sure why this is in the heavies, understand why you'd post here but why the mods wouldn't move it is beyond me. I guess you Moose fanboys must get tired of the echo chamber in the global mma forum.
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he didn't beat jacare or lombard even close to their primes. jacare didn't develop a striking game until late in his strikeforce run and lombard's prime was in bellator.
also, i'm not saying mousasi isn't a good or even great fighter. against rory macdonald, he literally fought like a perfect fighter. every single thing he did in that fight was perfect. but we have to keep it in context, it's against rory macdonald, who had never fought at 185.
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So? Not a goat.
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Looks like prime Jacare to me. 10 fight winning streak against good competition and 1 year after that fight he started dominating in Strikeforce. You are a salty hater that can't admit he beat good fighters.
By your logic both Lyoto and Jacare didn't beat a healthy Mousasi cuz he just came back after 2 torn ACL's, 1 year layoff and several other injuries.
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i have no problem admitting that, either.
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Lol there's nothin for me to be upset about. Just my honest opinion. Jacare was green in their first fight, didn't even have much of a striking game yet. If he was too injured to fight machida then he shouldn't have taken the fight huh? I don't care about him getting the win back when lyoto was old and out of prime. It's cool that he won the hall rematch, but that doesn't erase the loss in the first fight.
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Jacare beat a 22-3 Shlemenko, 20-5 prime Mayhem, 10-3 Zezao, 9-3 Galesic, 5 fight win streak Gozali and Prokofiev and more...He wasn't green, after that Moose fight he dominated in the Strikeforce
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He was green. He didn't develop decent striking until late in strikeforce. If you think those names he beat are great more power to you. LMAO that absolute legend Galesic.
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That was a direct avoidance of my question. He was given immediate chances to get a title shot, but he failed. Not the ufc fault at all he didn’t get the belt. They tried to get him there
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One was a freak KO, second was pretty decisive. Can’t just sweep it under the rug and just say Mousasi had “bad nights” against Hall and Jacare. Gotta own the successes and failures of your favorites. Mousasi being only on a one fight win streak at that point is on him and doesn’t help the argument much. He was in his late 20s. Injuries are a part of the game. A lot of fighters aren’t 100% going into fights, but just don’t say much about it. He got beat by Machida prior to that, but that’s irrelevant because he won a split against a 41 year old Machida years later some are saying? And Machida being 41 is irrelevant because there are guys in their 40s competitive like Romero? There are exceptions, not rules. Anyone who thinks Machida of today is as good as before is grasping at straws. His style doesn’t age well.
I see Jacare taking the high road and giving Mousasi credit (which he deserves, I’m not saying otherwise) more or less rather than saying “I wouldn’t beat him again.” So basically, Mousasi had excuses for his 3 losses in the UFC, but gets all the credit because he beat them eventually no questions asked? That’s fueling the haters man, lol. And I don’t mind him at all, I do think he’s a great fighter
just realized your user name is tehmoose, I’ll leave you alone. That’s like me having Chuck’s back in 2006. Favorite fighter of all time. I’m not a fan or hater of either of these fighters so I ain’t got a dog in this fight. Good luck.
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Nah, Bisping or Luke really can't be easily placed above Gegard imo. But it's all subjective, I guess. Maybe I just like him better than most fighters and have a soft spot for the guy
I do want to point out he has a 47-7 record and fights against solid competition for a long time. He had a few bad fights for sure, but what fighter that has such a long career doesn't? He just won another Bellator title, while most fighters from his era are washed or retired. Anyway, I don’t think we will agree here. You made solid points and I respect your opinion
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That's a really week argument, and you could nitpick every fighters wins like that.
Mousasi beat a very dangerous Manhoef the same night he koe'd Jacare. Absolute stud
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Yeah. Manhoef was on 5 fight KO winning streak and just KTFO Saku. And after the Mousasi fight, he KTFO Hunt also.
By that logic Jones only beat past prime MWs. Stipe only 40+ y/o fighters. Israel struggled with WW Gastelum, Vettori and past prime 0-2 losing streak Romero etc. So why do we even bother watching MMA when everyone is a bum, right? <45>
