Mousasi's resume

Mighty Mouse was unwilling to do certain things. Mousasi has an independent streak and a very dry sense of humour.

To me Mousasi is way more marketable.

I think they are both marketable in the sense that greatness is marketable. Not everyone is going to be a McGregor type draw. In fact virtually no one will be. Very few will be a Jones or a Brock or a Rousey either. And they all resonated for different reasons that aren't always easy to articulate. Jones it was likely the elite level he reached at such an early age but I would be remiss in saying that some of his transgressions and the contrast between how he wanted to be perceived early on and the heel type persona he ultimately embraced to an extent didn't play a factor.

Brock it was the crossover appeal from wrestling as well as the look and the bludgeoning style.

Ronda it was the mystique and the uniqueness of being that type of dominant force in WMMA at a time when it was just becoming a thing in the UFC.

Conor it's the personality and humor as well as the fan-friendly accessibility of his fighting style.

But you never know what will catch on and what won't. Colby is a guy that had adopted a full on pro wrestling character. He is constantly selling said character but it has not translated to box office. His ability and skills are superior to his character and self-marketing.

Guys like Demetrious and Mousasi did not need to have characters or big flashy personalities to be big in my opinion. There are a lot of cases where greatness can and should be enough to make people excited for your bouts. Again, not that you are going to see insane drawing potential but you could get to a level where people are excited for your fights and will tune in. GSP was one of those guys where his greatness was really the key selling point. He wasn't a trash talker. He didn't hype himself in some self-aggrandizing fashion. English was not his first language. But he was one of the biggest stars out there.

If you argue that Demetrious didn't play the game the way GSP did in terms of interviews, media dates, pressers, etc., I don't think there was that big a disparity there either. I think DJ for some reason just was never really a big fan favorite. It makes no sense to me because he is absolutely elite and he always came across as a likable guy to boot. GSP-esque in that regard.

The problem probably was the weight class. You hate to say it but a lot of people just did not embrace the flyweight division.
 
He’s one of the best MW’s ever. Period.

I agree...He has been around for a long time. I remember when he would train with fedor. They both have that very calm personality.

People will always argue who is what. People use to say AS never fought real competition. When they say that...just remember this...when your that good... they will say..."He never fought any real competition." ...they will say that because he has to be that good to not fight any real competition.

All those late-night one-star kung fu movies from ASIA would have a central theme. The young student disrespecting his elder master or teacher. It would go something like this....

Master is aging and getting slow but has the knowledge which makes him relevant in the fight game. The student now calls his master a fraud and wants to challenge him to a fight. Kills the master but his new pupil comes in and gets revenge in the end for his teacher.

The younger fans are like that backstabbing student. The plot told the story of the ill condition of that student's heart that caused him to seek his own glory instead of even becoming a better fighter himself. If he did not seek his own glory and was humble he would have learned more and obtained that glory. That ill pupil convinced himself that the Master was the fraud when the student was the fraud....everything the student spoke and thought about his teacher....that student was talking about himself...it was his own demons...not the master. You can not fix people ....they either get it or they don't.
 
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Sherdog: most overrated fighter ever...
 
He has wins over:

Puhakka (8-0 record)
Oganov (9-2 record ; 7 fight win streak)
Klever (6-0 record ; win over Bahadurzada)
Bouchelaghem (wins over Semenov, Weir etc)
Mirenic (8-2 record ; 2 fight win streak)
Takimoto (wins over Bustamante, Galesic, Dongbar etc)
Lombard (he went on a 24 fight win streak right after he lost to Mousasi)
Cyborg (wins over Carmont, Materla, Annan)
Kang (ranked top 10 ; 29-9 record ; 24 wins, 3 loses and 1 draw in his last 28)
Dongbar (4 fight win streak ; wins over Manhoef, Galesic etc)
Manhoef (22-4 record, on 5 fight KO win streak)
Jacare (10-1 record ; 10 fight win streak)
Hunt (Hunt already had some quality wins against Cro Cop, Wand, Bobish, TK)
Babalu (ranked top 10 ; 35-8 record ; 5 fight win streak ; wins over Shogun, Chael, Pele, Ilyukhin..)
Sokoudjou (Soko already had some quality wins against Lil Nog, Arona, Nakamura, Sapp)
Goodridge (wins over Taktarov, Schrijber, V. Overeem, Bobish, Frye)
O'Brien (15-4 record, only loses to Mousasi, Jones, Cain and Arlovski)
Mizuno (3 fight win streak against Latifi, Manhoef and Rodriguez)
Izumi (4 fight win streak against Minowa, Zikic)
OSP (8 fight win streak ; right after the Mousasi loss he went on a 5 fight win streak in the UFC)
Kyle (19-8 record ; wins over Feijao, Pezao, Lopez, Sims, Irvin, TK, Humphrey)
Latifi (3 fight win streak ; win over Lopez)
Munoz (ranked #7 ;13-4 record; wins over Maia, Leben, Boetsch, CB, Pierce, Catone, Jensen)
Hendo (ranked #9 @ LHW ; he fought for the title after that and actually beat Bisping imo)
Philippou (ranked #12 ; 13-4 record ; wins over Aung La N Sang, Hall, Boetsch, Larkin, Rivera etc)
Leites (ranked #10 ; 25-5 record; should of been on 9 fight win streak - robbed against Bisping)
Santos (ranked #15 ; 4 fight win streak ; currently the best LHW in the UFC)
Vitor (ranked #5)
Hall (ranked #10)
Weidman (ranked #4)
Shlemenko (ranked top 15 ; 56-9 record ; 6 fight win streak)
Carvalho (ranked top 10 ; 15-1 record ; 15 fight win streak)
Rory (2 fight win streak ; ranked #5 @ WW ; Bellator WW champ when Moose beat him)
Lyoto (4 fight win streak)
Lima (3 fight win streak ; ranked #6 @ WW ; Bellator WW champ when Moose beat him)


Kyotaro (K-1 HW champ when they fought ;wins over Saki, Le Banner, Aerts, Manhoef ; top 10 WBO box)
Musashi (wins over Aerts, Sefo, Greco etc)


56 MMA fights (47-7-2), 8 Kickboxing fights (8-0), 13 Amateur Boxing fights (12-1)

  • Strikeforce LHW champ
  • Bellator two time MW champ
  • Dream LHW champ
  • Dream MW champ (Dream Grand Prix winner)
  • Cage Warriors MW champ
  • Netherlands Amateur Boxing National Championship (2001)
  • 2008 Fighter of the Year (Bleacher Report)
  • 2009 European Fighter of the Year
  • 2016 Dutch Fighter of the Year
  • 2017 Dutch Fighter of the Year




Criminaly underated..

No one has a resume in all if MMA like his.

Many people can have 13pro fights and be undefeated like Costa hype.
But in reality no one in the UFC right now besides Anderson Silva has a resume like mousasi
 
Never a UFC champ, wonder why... 9-3 ufc run. And I admire this dude.
 
Yall weirdly obsessed with this dude.

Well, Schaub said Moose has the biggest dick he has ever seen.
And I trust Brendan, he looks like the type of guy who knows about this.
So I assume is normal for Sherdog to be obsessed.

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Well, Schaub said Moose has the biggest dick he has ever seen.
And I trust Brendan, he looks like the type of guy who knows about this.
So I assume is normal to for Sherdog to be obsessed.

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I agree
 
Gegard has one of the best skill sets at MW, but he is too hot and cold to be considered one of the best IMO.

He looked like a world champion some fights and like a middling fighter others.
 
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