#MoreThanARefugee

[snakedafunky]

well I'm glad we can agree on that.

I would say, The US, European countries, Scandinavian countries (happy Gaz?), and a few others.

How much has been spent already on this refugee crisis? There's plenty willing to pay obviously.

Any country with refugees.

Lol the US invades any country it wants. This is the kind of invasion people would support. Also the country might even allow it.

There is a reason why I said they would heavily guarded and have air support. And military force that gets too close gets wrecked.

This is really not based on what could realistically happen. You underestimate the difficulty of international politics.
Also national politics. If Trump starts another invasion in the middle east he won't be reelected. Because that will commit the US to another war for decades.
You don't go to war to bring peace. That won't work we know that now.
The green zone in Kabul is heavily guarded as well doesn't stop them from blowing stuff up. And now imagine that with a zone of 3-5 Millione people?
How do you possible guard that?

There are plenty willing to pay but they pay already. Invading another country would be on top of that. Plus the human casualties.
It's just not a reality.

 

[Gazwald]

So you don't think the international community should build safe zones with decent housing facilities in countries ravaged by war. Even with heavily armed guards with air support and all of that.

Gotcha.

What do you think is a better solution? Or do you think what's happening now is just fine?

You've tagged me in a topic on something I'm not really caring about right now. You still won't say why.

I tried asking you multiple times how my country is overrun by terrorists when I've never met one and you just kept saying "Britainistan". Seriously, go and argue with someone who spends as much time thinking about muslims as you do. You're boring and predictable.

 

[RIPWarrior]

This is really not based on what could realistically happen. You underestimate the difficulty of international politics.
Also national politics. If Trump starts another invasion in the middle east he won't be reelected. Because that will commit the US to another war for decades.
You don't go to war to bring peace. That won't work we know that now.
The green zone in Kabul is heavily guarded as well doesn't stop them from blowing stuff up. And now imagine that with a zone of 3-5 Millione people?
How do you possible guard that?

There are plenty willing to pay but they pay already. Invading another country would be on top of that. Plus the human casualties.
It's just not a reality.

There's a coalition bombing the IS right now. Plenty of countries work together and support each other.

The US has already invaded Syria. There's large swaths of desert that could be used for housing for refugees. Trump or any other president would be doing a good thing. Defending a refugee camp is not the same as decades of war.

You're not going to war. You're helping people and defending them if for what ever reason the camp is attacked. These countries or the rebels or the IS couldn't do shit anyway and they know they would get stomped.

Kabul is not a refugee camp. The only people being let into the camp would be unarmed refugees and coalition forces. Only trucks and supplies from the coalition get in.

What do you mean pay already?

How many have died trying to reach Europe? How many are being enslaved? This would stop all of that.

 

[RIPWarrior]

You've tagged me in a topic on something I'm not really caring about right now. You still won't say why.

I tried asking you multiple times how my country is overrun by terrorists when I've never met one and you just kept saying "Britainistan". Seriously, go and argue with someone who spends as much time thinking about muslims as you do. You're boring and predictable.

Many of your fellow countrymen disagree with you.







Sorry I'm not going to take your word for it. There's going to more coming. Sections have been overrun.

 

[snakedafunky]

The US has already invaded Syria. There's large swaths of desert that could be used for housing for refugees. Trump or any other president would be doing a good thing. Defending a refugee camp is not the same as decades of war.

You're not going to war. You're helping people and defending them if for what ever reason the camp is attacked. These countries or the rebels or the IS couldn't do shit anyway and they know they would get stomped.

But it's still war. Assad won't give you a piece of land. Also going into Afganistan and go after Bin Laden was also not the same as decades of war. And look where we are now.
Once you are pulled into it you won't e able to get out easily.
Also, you can't just house Millions of refugees somewhere in the desert. I mean where do you get water from and how do you build houses for millions of people?
Imagine the cost and time that would take.

The camp will be attacked by terrorists and suicide bombers ISIS won't show up with their Toyotas trying to take it.
You can't even keep stuff out of a prison. You think you can control a refugee camp?
You won't be able to keep the people save. And lots will still try to get to Europe anyway. So it doesn't solve the issue.

 

[fdswer]

 

[bref]

65 million that need a new home in America, Canada, Australia, The UK, Europe and Scandinavia.

Are Scandinavia and the UK not a part of Europe anymore?

 

[Bald1]

But it's still war. Assad won't give you a piece of land. Also going into Afganistan and go after Bin Laden was also not the same as decades of war. And look where we are now.
Once you are pulled into it you won't e able to get out easily.
Also, you can't just house Millions of refugees somewhere in the desert. I mean where do you get water from and how do you build houses for millions of people?
Imagine the cost and time that would take.

The camp will be attacked by terrorists and suicide bombers ISIS won't show up with their Toyotas trying to take it.
You can't even keep stuff out of a prison. You think you can control a refugee camp?
You won't be able to keep the people save. And lots will still try to get to Europe anyway. So it doesn't solve the issue.

Well the same arguments are valid when speaking of migrants in the west. ISIS has sent operatives into the EU. They have claimed most of the terrorist attacks.

The difference between refugee zones closer to their homes than Europe?
-They can congregate without affecting a very dissimilar culture.
- They can self govern without conflict to their neighbors.
-They're closer to home, making the possibility of return much higher.


All the valid issues you bring up are problems wherever they settle.

 

[Gazwald]

Many of your fellow countrymen disagree with you.







Sorry I'm not going to take your word for it. There's going to more coming. Sections have been overrun.

Same pictures you post every time.

On second thought though, you've convinced me. The 95% of people I know who are white are actually brown and radical terrorists. I'm the only one left and I'm too brainwashed by the globalists to see it. I need to wake up and snap out of it, follow your example and TAKE ACTION!!!

By regurgitating the same shit about muslims in every thread in the WR... That'll make a difference.

 

[snakedafunky]

Well the same arguments are valid when speaking of migrants in the west. ISIS has sent operatives into the EU. They have claimed most of the terrorist attacks.

The difference between refugee zones closer to their homes than Europe?
-They can congregate without affecting a very dissimilar culture.
- They can self govern without conflict to their neighbors.
-They're closer to home, making the possibility of return much higher.


All the valid issues you bring up are problems wherever they settle.

Yeah I know, even with the safe zone a lot would still try to come to Europe.
Because most aren't actually war refugees. Otherwise, they would just stay in Turkey.

IMO the only realistic option is to close the borders. Around Europe and select who you let in.
And have stricter immigration laws. I think that could be achieved with a solid conservative government.
No need for an anti-EU government or some populist.
Speaking of Germany just follow the same policies that were considered normal in the 90's.

 

[Bald1]

Yeah I know, even with the safe zone a lot would still try to come to Europe.
Because most aren't actually war refugees. Otherwise, they would just stay in Turkey.

IMO the only realistic option is to close the borders. Around Europe and select who you let in.
And have stricter immigration laws. I think that could be achieved with a solid conservative government.
No need for an anti-EU government or some populist.
Speaking of Germany just follow the same policies that were considered normal in the 90's.

Agreed.

 

[RIPWarrior]

Are Scandinavia and the UK not a part of Europe anymore?

I'm just going type out every country and then save it in an MSword document so I can copy and paste it every time I need to be specific. Just saying Europe doesn't really give you the full scale.

 

[Pale Man In Black]

No they won't.

 

[Pale Man In Black]

Putin has created a powerful network of useful idiots.

You're still bleating that same idiotic note?
You belong in a rubber room.

 

[RIPWarrior]

Yeah I know, even with the safe zone a lot would still try to come to Europe.
Because most aren't actually war refugees. Otherwise, they would just stay in Turkey.

IMO the only realistic option is to close the borders. Around Europe and select who you let in.
And have stricter immigration laws. I think that could be achieved with a solid conservative government.
No need for an anti-EU government or some populist.
Speaking of Germany just follow the same policies that were considered normal in the 90's.

Who are we selecting here? Doctors and well educated people aren't coming in on those boats.

Closing the borders and making sure no one on those boats gets in will definitely work. Not sure that's going to sit well with SJWs.

Definitely the easiest solution to Europe's problems.

 

[RIPWarrior]

But it's still war. Assad won't give you a piece of land. Also going into Afganistan and go after Bin Laden was also not the same as decades of war. And look where we are now.
Once you are pulled into it you won't e able to get out easily.
Also, you can't just house Millions of refugees somewhere in the desert. I mean where do you get water from and how do you build houses for millions of people?
Imagine the cost and time that would take.

The camp will be attacked by terrorists and suicide bombers ISIS won't show up with their Toyotas trying to take it.
You can't even keep stuff out of a prison. You think you can control a refugee camp?
You won't be able to keep the people save. And lots will still try to get to Europe anyway. So it doesn't solve the issue.

Bald1 saved me some time but I think a refugee camp could be easily defended by a country like the US. You build a vast network of trenches and berms to prevent armored vehicles and suicide trucks from getting to close. You've seen those failed IS attacks against properly defend positions. Refugees won't be receiving visits from the outside. Any military columns will be seen and bombed well before they get too close.

The coalition would supply the camp and water trucks would be brought in. I'm not talking about luxury houses. I guess tents will do.

But any way, you're right, the easiest solution is, fuck em.

 

[RIPWarrior]

Same pictures you post every time.

On second thought though, you've convinced me. The 95% of people I know who are white are actually brown and radical terrorists. I'm the only one left and I'm too brainwashed by the globalists to see it. I need to wake up and snap out of it, follow your example and TAKE ACTION!!!

By regurgitating the same shit about muslims in every thread in the WR... That'll make a difference.

 

[Rational Poster]

You're still bleating that same idiotic note?
You belong in a rubber room.

You still believe foreign agents and governments more than our own citizens, yet I'm the crazy one.

<DrakeLaugh>

 

[IDL]

Youtube has clear as day sided with the left. Not only do they keep pushing left wing propaganda but all of their 'trending' video are left wing propaganda as well.

It's not so much YouTube, as it is Oligarchy. In terms of 'globalizing' the Western nations through demographics re-engineering, dividing and elimination of sovereignty, break down of cultures, etc, this is a function of empire.

That it trickles down through major corporations such a google (which owns Youtube) and has various propoganda campaigns bombarding the larger population is just a manifestation of that larger concept.

 

[Bay Area]

I gave the video a thumbs up