Social More of a threat? Trans activists or Christian nationalists?

Edmond_Dantes said:
this is a question that is never answered because we all know the answer.

Trans folks have the very same rights as any one else in this country.
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there is body dysphoria with body builders and athletes that is well documented, and various drugs and hormones as illegal or at least controlled over that, and they aren’t going to prescribe them unless certain, specific medical needs like cancer, auto immune diseases, etc, not cosmetic augmentation. Wanting it covered by the government is absurd

But it is OK to give kids the same shit? Lol, this whole topic and movement is so stupid.

merit: oh and the abuse and misuse of this stuff also well documented to exacerbate mental illness IS well documented. Fact, and they just want to make this a focal point that we have to do this? Lol
 
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Bob Gray said:
What laws are you talking about? Name them. I honestly don't know what laws are in effect that are aimed at making it impossible for Trans people to exist. If these laws exist, they would be reprehensible. Please inform me.

Forbidding teachers from teaching from certain books is not a ban. Those that oversee educational curriculums have a choice of what books to use and what books to exclude. Deeming a book unfit for certain grades or studies is not a ban.
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Is a book like "To Kill a Mocking Bird" getting kids to think about racism and maybe feel a little bad about some of out countries history a valid reason for prohibiting it in the classroom?
 
Don Quixote said:
Believing in a creator makes more sense than believing the universe created itself out of nothing.
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So who created the creator then?

By believing in God, you absolutely subscribe to the notion that "the universe created itself out of nothing". Otherwise, who created God?
 
Bob Gray said:
What dignities are Trans people not afforded that are available to everyone else?
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Trans people often face discrimination and lack of access to various rights and opportunities that are available to cisgender individuals. Some of the areas where Trans people may experience inequities include:

  1. Employment: Trans people may face discrimination in the workplace, including not being hired, being fired, or being paid less than their cisgender counterparts.

  2. Healthcare: Trans people may experience barriers to accessing quality healthcare, including denial of coverage for necessary medical procedures, lack of providers who are knowledgeable about trans healthcare, and lack of insurance coverage for gender-affirming treatments.

  3. Housing: Trans people may experience discrimination when trying to secure housing, including being denied housing or being subjected to harassment by landlords or neighbors.

  4. Education: Trans students may experience discrimination in schools, including being excluded from certain activities or being bullied by classmates or teachers.

  5. Legal recognition: Trans people may face obstacles in obtaining legal recognition of their gender, including not being able to change their name or gender marker on official documents.

  6. Safety: Trans people are at increased risk of violence and harassment, both in public spaces and in their homes.

  7. Social acceptance: Trans people may face stigma and discrimination in their communities, which can lead to social isolation and a lack of support from friends and family.
Overall, the lack of acceptance and support for Trans people can have significant negative impacts on their health and well-being. It is important to advocate for the rights and dignity of Trans individuals and work to create a more inclusive and equitable society.
 
helltoupee said:
So who created the creator then?

By believing in God, you absolutely subscribe to the notion that "the universe created itself out of nothing". Otherwise, who created God?
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I believe he is the beginning. To suggest he was created can imply that he is finite. Be I believe he is infinite; he exists outside of time, space and matter.
 
Don Quixote said:
I believe he is the beginning. To suggest he was created can imply that he is finite. Be I believe he is infinite; he exists outside of time, space and matter.
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That's great - I'm not going to mock you for your beliefs, as we all have them in some way or another.

However, do you not see the logical fallacy that what you stated presents?

If you believe God is the beginning of everything, while also simultaneously believing that something coming from nothing is a bad argument, then how can you now argue that God came from nothing? It doesn't matter if he exists beyond time, space and matter. It would be illogical to just assume that he himself didn't have a creator, just as you argued with your initial post.

So basically, you do agree with the idea that "something was created from nothing", as evidence by your belief in God as the prime mover.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
Legal recognition: Trans people may face obstacles in obtaining legal recognition of their gender, including not being able to change their name or gender marker on official documents.
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In which country is there a "gender marker" on official documents?
 
Seano said:
Yet, that never happens to anyone else. Its always shit like this when you ask people what rights one group has that another doesn't. Its always this "well being able to walk down the street" horseshit.
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most of the people on the forum call trans people freaks, monsters, deranged, etc. simply for existing. denying that is disingenuous
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
most of the people on the forum call trans people freaks, monsters, deranged, etc. simply for existing. denying that is disingenuous
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And they'd say the same about a fat person, a bald person ,a guy with a tattoo on his face, etc.
 
Seano said:
And they'd say the same about a fat person, a bald person ,a guy with a tattoo on his face, etc.
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gtfo. you’re calling a bald guy a monster? a freak? you know you’re bullshitting.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
gtfo. you’re calling a bald guy a monster? a freak? you know you’re bullshitting.
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I'm saying thats just what people do. Name one group of people, ethnicity, etc that has never been marginalized some way by someone.
 
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