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Ultimate showdown. Who is the better man. The ultimate A++++ level male human. Based on every quality these icons posses, who is superior?


"IRON" MIKE TYSON

VS

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER



TYSON PROS:
One of the most iconic/known boxers in history
The most feared/intimidating boxer in history
Youngest HW champ in boxing history
Made over $300 million
Minor actor in some movies/documentaries
WWE hall of fame member

TYSON CONS:
Convicted of rape
Lost pretty much every cent of his 300million
Allowed himself to be exploited/used by terrible people



ARNOLD PROS:
7 time MR OLYMPIA winner
Most iconic bodybuilder in history
Major acting carrer
STARS IN TERMINATOR AND PREDATOR
Governor of California
Worth around $400 million

ARNOLD CONS:
Maid/sex scandal
Would lose in a fistfight with Mike
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Its a tough call. Arnold dominates in pretty much every category. But iron Mike would put him to sleep in short order. Depends on your definition of Alpha.
 
one is an actor and the other is an actual alpha so
 
really? Easy no question??



Yeah.

Look, I love the shit out of Mike Tyson and wish for nothing but happiness for him, but all he's ever had is being a damn good boxer.

Meanwhile, Arnold has:

* An inspirational true story about hardwork and determination

* Multiple bodybuilding titles

* Was the top actor in the world for a while

* Didn't blow all his money

* Married a Kennedy (essentially)

* Was the governor of the largest state in America

Basically, by any metric other than who can fight better, Arnold dominates.
 
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Tyson is a beast, but Arnold was/is more alpha.
 
Physical dominance stopped being the end all of human leadership about 200,000 years ago.. When some smart tribes realized that the strongest human got owned by every animal without good equipment, planning, and teamwork. It still matters, even today, but I would mix IQ and emotional intelligence with the physical capabilities pretty evenly.
 
True alphas see other alphas as their equals, while betas argue who's ahead.
 
Arnold because he accomplished so much more. Most people don't realize he was a self made millionaire before he ever started acting, before he was 30, from a brick laying business in LA...in a country where he didn't even speak the language when he first arrived. He conquered body building (and actually got bodybuilding some visibility), then he conquered acting (action movie king even till this day), and then he conquered politics, marrying a Kennedy (a pretty hot one, too) and becoming governor of California.

I mean, that's a lot.
 
In a fight Mike would win...
but Mike's an admittedly unconfident person who struggles with many insecurities.

Now, I respect him for admitting that. Some might say that that's "alpha" to admit that. But I don't know.

If you're goal in life is to be a humble person then you're not aiming for alpha.


Tyson's comments at times reminds me of Oscar Wilde's words from De Profundis:

I forgot that every little
action of the common day makes or unmakes character, and that
therefore what one has done in the secret chamber one has some day
to cry aloud on the housetop. I ceased to be lord over myself. I
was no longer the captain of my soul, and did not know it. I
allowed pleasure to dominate me. I ended in horrible disgrace.
There is only one thing for me now, absolute humility.
 
Tyson very easily is mor Alpha...

Suppose they get into a disagreement/argument...
Arny would do his best not to piss Mike off because he knows he would destroyed. Mike would not hold back...no matter how much money Arny has.
 
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