Modern UFC fighters going through Lions Den tryouts?

[Hauptstoss]

Ken came to nswc and gave a seminar on hand to hand combat to bunch of senior enlisted guys, then the cmc put him through some of the first phase stuff. Clearly he used what he learned in his lions den qualifying.

 

[elwani]

Imagine their faces when they see the Lion's Den facilities.

 

[AlphaWolf2EZ]

Meh.....I'm old and not on PEDS and I swim 500m in 10min , rest 15 min run 2miles in 14min rest 10 min , do 4 sets of 10 pullups in 4 min , rest 2 min , 70 SITUPS in 2 min , rest 2 minutes , 50 pushups in 2 min......I do that twice a day

I feel that most above average young athletes could knock out the Loins den test with 4 weeks of training....

 

[tbaumann]

Ken was a natural athlete. He was able to bench 400+ and dunk a basketball in high school. He was a high level football player in college and was asked by the Chargers for a tryout. He could have done those exercises in his prime.

LOL, says who, Ken?

Like most from that era, he was roided to the gills and had terrible cardio.

 

[tbaumann]

Meh.....I'm old and not on PEDS and I swim 500m in 10min , rest 15 min run 2miles in 14min rest 10 min , do 4 sets of 10 pullups in 4 min , rest 2 min , 70 SITUPS in 2 min , rest 2 minutes , 50 pushups in 2 min......I do that twice a day

I feel that most above average young athletes could knock out the Loins den test with 4 weeks of training....

Except most peds DONT help your cardio, and make you put on tons of oxygen draining, unnecessary muscle mass.

 

[Ogata]

Always felt Ken was more of a "Survivor" than the leader of a "Nation"... which is quite contradictory, when u remember how he always got his mates´ back (Mezger, for instance...)

I don't remember too much. I remember he was yelling at Metzger in one of the prides but I forgot why...

One set of 200 push ups? Seems pretty unreasonable.

I think the push up has a time limit if I remember correctly, like you have to do them in 3 minutes or something. But I could be wrong.

You'd think eventually they would learn


Nope over trained and gave Guy Mezger a stroke smh

Guy took on some dodgy supplements. Rogan talked about it few times but forgot what it was. No one else got a stroke trying out for the lions den.

 

[SuperNerd]

 

[bjjHERRERA]

used to do the 500 squat workout every third leg day. took me about 17 minutes. its a sore like no other.

 

[Bluesbreaker]

Just curious, how many world champions came out of that program?

Off the top of my head:
Ken
Frank
Guy Mezger
Mo Smith
Vernon White
Roy Nelson

They all held titles in major organisations.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Did Roy Nelson get a try-out exemption?

 

[eon001]

Every fighter becoming a champ is an unfair requirement for a training method to be effective. Can you name any gym/training method that has only champs? Or even half?

Well you kind of help prove my point. It's not a one size fits all situation. I'm sure Greg Jacksons or Patt Miletich has a different method of training. In fact I remember Trevor Whitman mocking Rampage's "old school" training methods on TUF 10. The same season Rampage got completely washed.

I'll admit my statement was a bit ignorant as you are indeed correct, there isn't a guaranteed champ program. Which means I don't necessarily have to kill my body to be fight ready either.

 

[eon001]

Sounds like a recipe for lots of pain killers and rehab.

A lot more sparing and cardio with less muscle and tendon/ligament strain would have probably lengthened their careers and improved their records.

Another thing to take into consideration is in order to sustain a routine that long, you most likely have to be on ALOT of performance enhancers.

Sean Sherk had a similar routine and surprise surprise, he got popped. Ken speaks for himself.

 

[ThunderL1ps]

This is a training regimen of the elite old time pro wrestlers, which is where the Pancrase dojo got it from originally. Karl Gotchl was the one who spread it to the Japanese as he was a key figure for the New Japan Pro Wrestling dojo when Inoki first started his own promotion. In the United States, Verne Gagne's camp in the 1970's had these sorts of numbers in order to weed out undesirables/non-athletes.

Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Ken Patera, Sgt. Slaughter, the Iron Shiek, plus countless more had to endure this sort of training day in and day out. Ric Flair even quit a couple of times only to have Ken Patera (a U.S. Olympic power lifter) tell him he's not quitting. Gagne even went to Ric Flair's home, grabbed him, threw him on the front lawn and told him he's not quitting. While his matches were all scripted, most acknowledge that Flair had the best endurance of any wrestler. Flair would do 500 squats daily as an active wrestler during his prime.



Gagne's camp:

 

[Willek]

As a kid that felt so real to me.

 

[MEAN357]

they were all juiced out of their mind back then lol im not surprised

 

[Ogata]

Just curious, how many world champions came out of that program?

At the time, the MMA was operating in tournament basis. Kens guys mostly fought in pancrase ( yes they are hybrid wrestling) and they did well. Ken fought and defeated Bas Rutten who was in his prime and very respectable.

 

[soulsstealer]

Except most peds DONT help your cardio, and make you put on tons of oxygen draining, unnecessary muscle mass.

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[spinitch]

Ken does not appear to be the deepest thinker to me. I would prefer to follow Joel's methods for prepping athletes physically and suppose if diligent He would help find someone suitable from Hume's team or others he works close with for fight technique training that would try to minimize a needless injury due to overzealous coach nonsense.

 

[Fluffernutter]

When reading that workout I thought:

1. Gassed Saki would KO the guy that could complete that course
2. Light fisted Maia would sub the guy that could complete that course
3. If completed regularly, would USADA knock on the door?

Years ago, I was watching a wrestling coach really working his team hard. I mean they were very conditioned.

With that said, their technique was lacking and they got pinned a lot.

 

[Fluffernutter]

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