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Big nog is a savage man,he wanted to beat fedor so bad.
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Marco Ruas interview right before UFC 7 in Black Belt magazine (1995)
BB: When were you born?
MR: January 27, 1961. In Rio.
BB: When did you start in the Martial Arts?
MR: 13. At first I practiced Judo.
BB: Judo?
MR: Yes, because I was a coward. My father took me to a Judo academy. I soon got to love the fighting arts and have done various things.
BB: What other Martial Arts did you try?
MR: From 16, Tae Kwon Do and Capoeira. From 18, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu, and Luta Livre.
BB: Most Vale Tudo fighters know Jiu-Jitsu, but you know many other Martial Arts as well.
MR: Well, the Judo academy was managed by my father. It had classes of Capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and so on. So I learned alot of Martial Arts. From my late teen years on, I have trained almost everyday in the Martial Arts.
BB: How successful have you been in your matches?
MR: I'm a little bit embarrased, because there have been so many that I can't remember them all. In Muay Thai, I fought 16 bouts, won them all, and was Heavyweight champion in Brazil. In Capoeira I won the Heavyweight championship. In Boxing I won 8 out of 8 bouts, and was once Middleweight champion in Rio. I won the Wrestling championships in Brazil 5 or 6 times.
BB: Is it your dream to be a champion in evry kind of Martial Art?
MR: No, I just love various fighting arts. I do have another reason that I do so many kinds of Martial Arts. When I continue to win nobody wants to challenge me anymore! If I want to keep fighting I have to turn to a new Martial Art.
BB: Wow.
MR: I do not want to participate in the Olympics. Actually I want to earn money by doing Vale Tudo matches, or kickboxing in Brazil. Unfortunately there few kickboxing events and I cannot take part in many Vale Tudo matches. That has been a problem.
BB: Why?
MR: Just 12 years ago, I competed in A Vale Tudo match with Pin Dukan, who was said to be the top student in the Carlson Gracie Dojo. I won. So after that bout, nobody wanted to fight with me.
BB: I have heard this before.
MR: So I then participated in Luta Livre events. Luta Livre is like free-style wrestling. It differs from Jiu-Jitsu, because you fight and train without a gi. The grappling technique is like Jiu-Jitsu, but since there is no gi, the skill is a little closer to wrestling. Another difference is that punching and kicking are trained in Luta Livre.
BB: Luta Livre has been called an enemy to Jiu-Jitsu.
MR: People who do these two Martial Arts completely hate each other. I do not care. I only want to be tougher. So I trained in Jiu-Jitsu for 3 years as well as Luta Livre. But that is a big problem in Brazil.
BB: Jiu-Jitsu fighters often say, "I would die for Jiu-Jitsu!". Don't you feel the same way?
MR: No. Essentially, inside of Jiu-Jitsu, Luta Livre, or anything, it must be decided whi is the best.
BB: You are the first Brazillian I have ever met to say such things.
MR: That's why it's so hard to find someone to fight!
BB: But you won in UFC 7.
MR: UFC is one step for me. For about 10 years no one would fight with me. Even the Gracie's would not fight me. So the UFC is the next step into the world of fighting.
BB: Who do you think is the toughest fighter in the UFC?
MR: I have got the tapes of UFC's 1-6. My trainer, Layton and I, have analyzed every fighters technique. Honestly, the level of fighters in UFC's 1-3 is very low. It wasn't until UFC 4 that the level was at last like Vale Tudo. The best? I think it's Shamrock.
BB: Shamrock? Not Royce?
MR: I do not think much of UFC 1-3. Though Royce is an excellent Jiu-Jitsu fighter, I think it would be hard for him to continue to win. But Shamrock can. I myself think that the body must be tough for a fighter to be tough. Shamrock has a tough body. Layton (Ruas' manager): Marco is a wonderfully gentle person. But look at his body. He can bench press 180kg easily. This is no ordinary Jiu-Jitsu fighter you know.
BB: That's right. Marco has a different kind of body from Rickson. He is flexible but stiff, lika a rubber ball, and he's very muscular.
Layton: When black people were forced to go to South America as slaves, 80% of them died from over work and poor living conditions. The 20% who lived must have been tough. The offspring of such men, must have it in their genes to excel. That is Marco's case. His body has superior genes. He trains all day.
BB: I see. You mean Marco naturally has a tough body?
Layton: And Marco knows all the Data on the UFC fighters. We have analyzed Shamrock's, Severn's, and everyone else's tactics. And he has been training with this analysis in mind. Look at this notebook. Here is the plotting of Marco's heart rate when he is using certain tactics. We are researching scientifically what Marco can be.
BB: That is great.
Layton: He knows the weakness of every UFC fighter. He will definately win at UFC 7.
BB: Wow. You have created a monster. But we're curious. Who's better, Marco or Rickson?
MR: I respect Rickson, but he's not perfect. Despite what some say.
Layton: It is my personal opinion that Marco and Rickson have equal grappling skills, with Rickson having perhaps an edge. But standing up, Marco is much better. Marco would have a good chance of winning.
BB: You mean that Marco plans to escape from grappling, and beat him with his standing skills?
MR: If we are even in grappling, than we must fight standing. When you are grappling there is a chance to stand up, if you refuse to be caught in a submission or chikehold. The losers to the Gracie's have so far been taken down. They could not stand up again. That is the problem. The Gracie's adhere to no time limits as they do not want their opponents to stand up again.
BB: I see. Thank you very much Marco.
BB: When were you born?
MR: January 27, 1961. In Rio.
BB: When did you start in the Martial Arts?
MR: 13. At first I practiced Judo.
BB: Judo?
MR: Yes, because I was a coward. My father took me to a Judo academy. I soon got to love the fighting arts and have done various things.
BB: What other Martial Arts did you try?
MR: From 16, Tae Kwon Do and Capoeira. From 18, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu, and Luta Livre.
BB: Most Vale Tudo fighters know Jiu-Jitsu, but you know many other Martial Arts as well.
MR: Well, the Judo academy was managed by my father. It had classes of Capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and so on. So I learned alot of Martial Arts. From my late teen years on, I have trained almost everyday in the Martial Arts.
BB: How successful have you been in your matches?
MR: I'm a little bit embarrased, because there have been so many that I can't remember them all. In Muay Thai, I fought 16 bouts, won them all, and was Heavyweight champion in Brazil. In Capoeira I won the Heavyweight championship. In Boxing I won 8 out of 8 bouts, and was once Middleweight champion in Rio. I won the Wrestling championships in Brazil 5 or 6 times.
BB: Is it your dream to be a champion in evry kind of Martial Art?
MR: No, I just love various fighting arts. I do have another reason that I do so many kinds of Martial Arts. When I continue to win nobody wants to challenge me anymore! If I want to keep fighting I have to turn to a new Martial Art.
BB: Wow.
MR: I do not want to participate in the Olympics. Actually I want to earn money by doing Vale Tudo matches, or kickboxing in Brazil. Unfortunately there few kickboxing events and I cannot take part in many Vale Tudo matches. That has been a problem.
BB: Why?
MR: Just 12 years ago, I competed in A Vale Tudo match with Pin Dukan, who was said to be the top student in the Carlson Gracie Dojo. I won. So after that bout, nobody wanted to fight with me.
BB: I have heard this before.
MR: So I then participated in Luta Livre events. Luta Livre is like free-style wrestling. It differs from Jiu-Jitsu, because you fight and train without a gi. The grappling technique is like Jiu-Jitsu, but since there is no gi, the skill is a little closer to wrestling. Another difference is that punching and kicking are trained in Luta Livre.
BB: Luta Livre has been called an enemy to Jiu-Jitsu.
MR: People who do these two Martial Arts completely hate each other. I do not care. I only want to be tougher. So I trained in Jiu-Jitsu for 3 years as well as Luta Livre. But that is a big problem in Brazil.
BB: Jiu-Jitsu fighters often say, "I would die for Jiu-Jitsu!". Don't you feel the same way?
MR: No. Essentially, inside of Jiu-Jitsu, Luta Livre, or anything, it must be decided whi is the best.
BB: You are the first Brazillian I have ever met to say such things.
MR: That's why it's so hard to find someone to fight!
BB: But you won in UFC 7.
MR: UFC is one step for me. For about 10 years no one would fight with me. Even the Gracie's would not fight me. So the UFC is the next step into the world of fighting.
BB: Who do you think is the toughest fighter in the UFC?
MR: I have got the tapes of UFC's 1-6. My trainer, Layton and I, have analyzed every fighters technique. Honestly, the level of fighters in UFC's 1-3 is very low. It wasn't until UFC 4 that the level was at last like Vale Tudo. The best? I think it's Shamrock.
BB: Shamrock? Not Royce?
MR: I do not think much of UFC 1-3. Though Royce is an excellent Jiu-Jitsu fighter, I think it would be hard for him to continue to win. But Shamrock can. I myself think that the body must be tough for a fighter to be tough. Shamrock has a tough body. Layton (Ruas' manager): Marco is a wonderfully gentle person. But look at his body. He can bench press 180kg easily. This is no ordinary Jiu-Jitsu fighter you know.
BB: That's right. Marco has a different kind of body from Rickson. He is flexible but stiff, lika a rubber ball, and he's very muscular.
Layton: When black people were forced to go to South America as slaves, 80% of them died from over work and poor living conditions. The 20% who lived must have been tough. The offspring of such men, must have it in their genes to excel. That is Marco's case. His body has superior genes. He trains all day.
BB: I see. You mean Marco naturally has a tough body?
Layton: And Marco knows all the Data on the UFC fighters. We have analyzed Shamrock's, Severn's, and everyone else's tactics. And he has been training with this analysis in mind. Look at this notebook. Here is the plotting of Marco's heart rate when he is using certain tactics. We are researching scientifically what Marco can be.
BB: That is great.
Layton: He knows the weakness of every UFC fighter. He will definately win at UFC 7.
BB: Wow. You have created a monster. But we're curious. Who's better, Marco or Rickson?
MR: I respect Rickson, but he's not perfect. Despite what some say.
Layton: It is my personal opinion that Marco and Rickson have equal grappling skills, with Rickson having perhaps an edge. But standing up, Marco is much better. Marco would have a good chance of winning.
BB: You mean that Marco plans to escape from grappling, and beat him with his standing skills?
MR: If we are even in grappling, than we must fight standing. When you are grappling there is a chance to stand up, if you refuse to be caught in a submission or chikehold. The losers to the Gracie's have so far been taken down. They could not stand up again. That is the problem. The Gracie's adhere to no time limits as they do not want their opponents to stand up again.
BB: I see. Thank you very much Marco.
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His [ATG Luta Livre] coach´s name is : Roberto Leitao, not Layton...Marco Ruas interview right before UFC 7 in Black Belt magazine (1995)
BB: When were you born?
MR: January 27, 1961. In Rio.
BB: When did you start in the Martial Arts?
MR: 13. At first I practiced Judo.
BB: Judo?
MR: Yes, because I was a coward. My father took me to a Judo academy. I soon got to love the fighting arts and have done various things.
BB: What other Martial Arts did you try?
MR: From 16, Tae Kwon Do and Capoeira. From 18, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu, and Luta Livre.
BB: Most Vale Tudo fighters know Jiu-Jitsu, but you know many other Martial Arts as well.
MR: Well, the Judo academy was managed by my father. It had classes of Capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and so on. So I learned alot of Martial Arts. From my late teen years on, I have trained almost everyday in the Martial Arts.
BB: How successful have you been in your matches?
MR: I'm a little bit embarrased, because there have been so many that I can't remember them all. In Muay Thai, I fought 16 bouts, won them all, and was Heavyweight champion in Brazil. In Capoeira I won the Heavyweight championship. In Boxing I won 8 out of 8 bouts, and was once Middleweight champion in Rio. I won the Wrestling championships in Brazil 5 or 6 times.
BB: Is it your dream to be a champion in evry kind of Martial Art?
MR: No, I just love various fighting arts. I do have another reason that I do so many kinds of Martial Arts. When I continue to win nobody wants to challenge me anymore! If I want to keep fighting I have to turn to a new Martial Art.
BB: Wow.
MR: I do not want to participate in the Olympics. Actually I want to earn money by doing Vale Tudo matches, or kickboxing in Brazil. Unfortunately there few kickboxing events and I cannot take part in many Vale Tudo matches. That has been a problem.
BB: Why?
MR: Just 12 years ago, I competed in A Vale Tudo match with Pin Dukan, who was said to be the top student in the Carlson Gracie Dojo. I won. So after that bout, nobody wanted to fight with me.
BB: I have heard this before.
MR: So I then participated in Luta Livre events. Luta Livre is like free-style wrestling. It differs from Jiu-Jitsu, because you fight and train without a gi. The grappling technique is like Jiu-Jitsu, but since there is no gi, the skill is a little closer to wrestling. Another difference is that punching and kicking are trained in Luta Livre.
BB: Luta Livre has been called an enemy to Jiu-Jitsu.
MR: People who do these two Martial Arts completely hate each other. I do not care. I only want to be tougher. So I trained in Jiu-Jitsu for 3 years as well as Luta Livre. But that is a big problem in Brazil.
BB: Jiu-Jitsu fighters often say, "I would die for Jiu-Jitsu!". Don't you feel the same way?
MR: No. Essentially, inside of Jiu-Jitsu, Luta Livre, or anything, it must be decided whi is the best.
BB: You are the first Brazillian I have ever met to say such things.
MR: That's why it's so hard to find someone to fight!
BB: But you won in UFC 7.
MR: UFC is one step for me. For about 10 years no one would fight with me. Even the Gracie's would not fight me. So the UFC is the next step into the world of fighting.
BB: Who do you think is the toughest fighter in the UFC?
MR: I have got the tapes of UFC's 1-6. My trainer, Layton and I, have analyzed every fighters technique. Honestly, the level of fighters in UFC's 1-3 is very low. It wasn't until UFC 4 that the level was at last like Vale Tudo. The best? I think it's Shamrock.
BB: Shamrock? Not Royce?
MR: I do not think much of UFC 1-3. Though Royce is an excellent Jiu-Jitsu fighter, I think it would be hard for him to continue to win. But Shamrock can. I myself think that the body must be tough for a fighter to be tough. Shamrock has a tough body. Layton (Ruas' manager): Marco is a wonderfully gentle person. But look at his body. He can bench press 180kg easily. This is no ordinary Jiu-Jitsu fighter you know.
BB: That's right. Marco has a different kind of body from Rickson. He is flexible but stiff, lika a rubber ball, and he's very muscular.
Layton: When black people were forced to go to South America as slaves, 80% of them died from over work and poor living conditions. The 20% who lived must have been tough. The offspring of such men, must have it in their genes to excel. That is Marco's case. His body has superior genes. He trains all day.
BB: I see. You mean Marco naturally has a tough body?
Layton: And Marco knows all the Data on the UFC fighters. We have analyzed Shamrock's, Severn's, and everyone else's tactics. And he has been training with this analysis in mind. Look at this notebook. Here is the plotting of Marco's heart rate when he is using certain tactics. We are researching scientifically what Marco can be.
BB: That is great.
Layton: He knows the weakness of every UFC fighter. He will definately win at UFC 7.
BB: Wow. You have created a monster. But we're curious. Who's better, Marco or Rickson?
MR: I respect Rickson, but he's not perfect. Despite what some say.
Layton: It is my personal opinion that Marco and Rickson have equal grappling skills, with Rickson having perhaps an edge. But standing up, Marco is much better. Marco would have a good chance of winning.
BB: You mean that Marco plans to escape from grappling, and beat him with his standing skills?
MR: If we are even in grappling, than we must fight standing. When you are grappling there is a chance to stand up, if you refuse to be caught in a submission or chikehold. The losers to the Gracie's have so far been taken down. They could not stand up again. That is the problem. The Gracie's adhere to no time limits as they do not want their opponents to stand up again.
BB: I see. Thank you very much Marco.
Strange, he didnt hide his age here...
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His age is Infinite,Porra
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I think its a great technique and laugh at anyone who doesnt like it.
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BB: Shamrock? Not Royce?
MR: I do not think much of UFC 1-3. Though Royce is an excellent Jiu-Jitsu fighter, I think it would be hard for him to continue to win. But Shamrock can
very tellin´ for those who believe that Hoyce was the lone favourite in the 1st UFCs...
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-1-hoyce-his-gi-ufc-1.3734725/
Obs: Luta Livre~Catch Wrasslin´+greco-roman wrasslin´+JJJ (still, the 1980s generation incorporated MT to its skill set)
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Well i think he knew, that Rickson and so on, that kind of fighter was better suited for longevity/durability in this kind of thing. Royce was the man for 3 tourneys,and had he continued....
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Hickson: "With time limits it may be a draw. I am technical and I trust 100% in my ability to win. 10, 20 or 30 mins. to beat a guy who weighs 50kg more than you and is an olympic champion may be a bit too much. I'm not saying that he would win but I may not win with the time limits."
Do you think any Gracie will ever return to the UFC? The competition now is much greater with guys like Frank Shamrock.
Horion> " There is a possibility. We still have a problem with time limits and judges."
Hoyce:
"if I [was to] drop you in the middle of the ocean and you look around and there is only water, most of the people - 99 percent - would drown on the first night. If I drop you in the ocean and fly away but tell you I'm coming back the next day to pick you up, you don't have to go anywhere, just float around the entire day. I'll come back and pick you up and you'll be there waiting for me. That's what the fighters are doing now. They know there is a time limit"
Hoyce: "It was a hard mat back then. It's plywood with one of those inch foam pads - the type they put under carpet. They put that over plywood. People make all kinds of excuses - Royce is not fighting because now it's a hard floor ... I'm not fighting because of the time limit and the rules. Now the fighters are playing against the time limit and against the judges. They don't fight against me."
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I dont think its just the time limits. Other than Renzo,it seem they pick certain kind of guys to fight. Royce and Ryan fought guys who werent going to knock them out. They fought inferior grapplers or percieved to be inferior grapplers. Renzo would fight anybody. I dont think Royce would fight Oleg or Dan Henderson.
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I mean he did fight Akebono,a guy who is like 400 lbs,that wasnt gonna be a walk in the park. Or matt Hughes...but i just didnt see him fight any hard hitting bangers after he left ufc
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yes but i would have liked to see him take fights like Renzo,against Henderson,Frank Shamrock,Oleg etc
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Anybody remember years ago when GSP said Nick Diaz was one of his favorite fighters? He had reasoned at the time, that he always liked bad-boys/villians because they were so unlike him. I think it was during a fight-night interview, around the lead-up to his fight with Shields, but I can never find the clip.
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Wow - Was it anything like Mauro inteviewing Cro Cop?? Did you get "initiated" by Bas or similar?
This may be daft to ask, but how did you get started? I have often wondered the pathway to being a ringside photographer; I assumed one would have to transition from a successful sports journalism career OR hang around the scene and work up the ranks?
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A friend of mine started writing video game reviews for this site,and they needed people to cover MMA as they were expanding their media subjects. So we got press passes to stuff,fight cards,weigh ins,and press conferences,and my friend would do the play by play,Id do the ringside photography,and we'd both pair off doing interviews. It was a fun thing,we did for a few years,but it totally spoiled me to going to fight events now in the nosebleeds. Rather watch at home than do that after gettin a taste of the good life at ringside.Wow - Was it anything like Mauro inteviewing Cro Cop?? Did you get "initiated" by Bas or similar?
This may be daft to ask, but how did you get started? I have often wondered the pathway to being a ringside photographer; I assumed one would have to transition from a successful sports journalism career OR hang around the scene and work up the ranks?
So my advice would be to find a site that covers MMA,and offer your services,or meet people already in the industry in some way,and wiggle your way in.
P.S. It might be harder to do now,esp concerning UFC,but regional MMA events might be a good start.
