Movies MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - DEAD RECKONING (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE: DEAD RECKONING, PART ONE, how would you rate it?

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Adamant said:
I really wish they would bring back Paula Patton. She very well could be my favorite female of the entire franchise. (I can't say 100% until I do another series marathon, but she's damn well at the top. At worst she'd be Top 3)
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Yeah I liked her too. MI as a whole has always been a little picky when it comes to which characters get to continue on in the franchise. Patton, Maggie Q, Rhys Myers, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Kind of just forgotten about
 
The Good The Bad The HBK said:
I actually agree with this. I saw it today. I wasn't the biggest fan of the entity randomly becoming in existence and then taking over. But it did produce the best scene in the film imo

when the entity makes Ethan go the wrong way to kill off a certain character, I thought the entire scene with Ethan fighting 1 v 2 and then racing towards where a certain incident is occuring made for an excellent watch and was built up well and delivered at the end of the scene.

So I agree I don't particularly care for the entity angle, it did provide the best scene in the film. I thought this MI film had a great balance of humor and fun that made me laugh a lot.

I also agree the new character Grace is an excellent addition to the franchise and I personally think is the hottest in the franchise.

the ending scene where the actress playing Mantis pulls up Ethan and Grace before dying was too over the top and impossible to happen but Hollywood loves to push girl power down our throats

I still like 1, 4 and 6 a lot better but this is just 1 half of 1 huge film so I'll hold my judgement when part 2 is released

7/10 range

Really good film

I also thought the opening while good is not up to par with the other Mi openings

Ghost had the jail break
I forget what rogue did but MI 6 had the plane scene. Much better than the opening to MI7
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I agree with your spoiler scene in Venice. That was very well done. There was a gradual creep of anxiousness and dread with every second. Great score also.
 
Adamant said:
About the ending....
I thought the train sequence wasn't that thrilling. The fight on top pales in comparison to the M:I 1 train sequence and fight. The only part of the train sequence I thought was truly pretty awesome was when they were climbing their way up car to car and having near miss after near miss.

Also, why crash the train for real and then add so much CGI to it as it crashes? They should have let it crash naturally and however it lands is how it lands. No need to spruce it up with gobs of CGI.

The whole bike jump scene amounted to a big meh from me. It wasn't NEARLY as thrilling as some of the previous stunts from the previous films were. With how much they hyped it, I found it to be much ado about nothing. Then the subsequent "speed flying" they were hyping was more of the same meh. I've seen way, way, WAY more intense speedflying videos on youtube. He wasn't even really speed flying. He was more or less just gingerly gliding down.

Finally, the death of Ilsa.... on one hand, I found her death somewhat shocking as she's a popular character, however, I think it was necessary in order to keep the stakes high. Yeah, it was a little out of nowhere and she felt like a backburner/secondary character....but.......... I don't think she's actually dead. They had the fakeout death in the beginning with Ethan telling her to stay dead, and I don’t think we hear anyone on the team actually say she’s dead after being stabbed. Ethan definitely doesn’t. They don't really mourn over her that much. It's just kind of swept aside and glossed over, which is not fitting for such a major character. And when Grace says "I'm the reason she's dead," Luther responds with “she’s the reason you're alive”, which could have a double meaning and be a very subtle reassurance to something. So my prediction is: she’s their secret ace in the hole. Something that the Entity won’t see coming because it’s not looking for her, because to the world and it, she's dead and gone. I think she's gonna show up as a big surprise in the third act of Part 2 in order to save the day.

While I would like it if she's still alive, part of me groans at the thought because that basically kills the stakes and makes this just like F&F, where all of the main players are safe and never really in any danger.

All that said, this is still a solidly entertaining movie that I enjoyed very much. It's not perfect and definitely not the best of the M:I films, but it's a really good one that I will happily pick up Day 1 on 4K.

In terms of the M:I franchise (these ratings only apply to this series; a 10/10 here is only in relation to these movies. It isn't a 10/10 across the board against all movies ever)

M:I - 10/10
M:I Ghost Protocol - 10/10
M:I Fallout - 10/10
M:I Dead Reckoning 1 - 7.5 or 8/10 (Need to see a few more times and let it sink in before I can give it its final rating)
M:I III/Rogue Nation - Tied for now - 6 or 6.5/10
M:I II - 5/10
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I should have clarified that the train scene I found to be the highlight was the
ending part where they were running/jumping from one train car to another. The fight scene on top of the train was just eh.

Yeah, I was thinking that they might resurrect Ilsa. I share your sentiment in that I love Ilsa, I hope she stays dead as to not make this into a farcial Fast & Furious type of movie.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Just saw it this afternoon and I agree 100%

The action was great, 3 of my current favorite babes, and Atwell aint bad either, but Morales angle is just to senseless

and ditto on Faust, she's and Kirby were my secondary reasons to go see it
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Nice to see we are drifting again. (Again, I'm the left one.)
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What's up with the retconning of Benjie's history. In this film, they made it seem like had a criminal past or something and he joined the IMF to change all that. If I recall, Benjie was just a lowly technician in the IMF in M:I 3 and he eventually got promoted to field agent in the sequels.
 
And by hate I don't really mean hate just really dislike it

10 is a perfect 10, so why would that not be labeled Masterpiece? An excellent film isn't a 10 it's a 9 imo
Great is an 8
Good is 7 which can range from good, pretty good or very/really good

By your rating system there are no masterpieces, the best a film can be called is excellent.
 
The Good The Bad The HBK said:
Yeah that's the one lol pretty good
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Back in the late 80s and early 90s, I frequently bought those Movie Guide Handbooks by different authors. One of the book had a rating system like this:
4 - Excellent
3.5 - Very Good
3 - Good
2.5 - Pretty Good
2 - Average
1.5 - Poor
1 - Bad
Turkey - Abysmal
Not sure if this was the actual Movie Guide that used that specific rating system but this is just an example of the Handbooks that I bought in the past.

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That's how I was educated that Pretty Good is lower than Good. When I started posting in Sherdog, a lot of people were using the 10 star rating system. So I just used my old rating system and incorporated it to the 10 star rating system.

Just like when a few people misuse Lose and Loose, there are some people who don't know how to use Pretty Good as well. Pretty Good is equal to Fairly Good or Somewhat Good. Fairly and Pretty weaken the adverbs or adjectives that they modify.
 
The Good The Bad The HBK said:
And by hate I don't really mean hate just really dislike it

10 is a perfect 10, so why would that not be labeled Masterpiece? An excellent film isn't a 10 it's a 9 imo
Great is an 8
Good is 7 which can range from good, pretty good or very/really good

By your rating system there are no masterpieces, the best a film can be called is excellent.
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The Good The Bad The HBK said:
I don't agree but it's ok

Even still with this rating system you literally have no masterpieces, excellent is your highest ceiling.
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Masterpiece. Excellent. They're just labels. There's no hard rule on what a 10 rating is except that it conveys the highest enjoyment you receive from watching a movie.

Masterpiece - a work of outstanding artistry, skill, or workmanship.

This is just my take on it but I am hesitant to use Masterpiece in correlation to a 10 star rating. Most of the times people who vote for a 10 rating means that they absolutely loved the movie. Let's say they absolutely loved The Expendables movie and gave it a 10 rating. They're not saying the movie is a masterpiece. They're just saying they absolutely loved the movie and that it's probably one of their favorite movies of all time. Hope I'm making sense.
 
Dragonlordxxxxx said:
Masterpiece. Excellent. They're just labels. There's no hard rule on what a 10 rating is except that it conveys the highest enjoyment you receive from watching a movie.

Masterpiece - a work of outstanding artistry, skill, or workmanship.

This is just my take on it but I am hesitant to use Masterpiece in correlation to a 10 star rating. Most of the times people who vote for a 10 rating means that they absolutely loved the movie. Let's say they absolutely loved The Expendables movie and gave it a 10 rating. They're not saying the movie is a masterpiece. They're just saying they absolutely loved the movie and that it's probably one of their favorite movies of all time. Hope I'm making sense.
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You are making sense and I agree with how you explained it. Masterpiece is a term that is used for things people consider perfection imo such as a painting, a movie, an album ect

I personally don't rate movies that way but I agree that others do rate the movie with how much they enjoyed it with the example you used.

Some of my fav movies of all time I would say are great (8/10) but it wouldn't feel right to label it a masterpiece just because it's one of my favs.

To me 10/10 are rarely given by me and should only be given to films that are close to perfection as it gets.

I'm sure you wouldn't just call The Last of the mohicans just an excellent movie, I believe in your eyes you see it as a masterpiece.
 
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