Crime Minnesota school shooting at catholic school

[Crazy Source]

Anyone that was a teen during Covid, has significant detriment to their mental health for a large portion of their life, they suffered anxiety/depression and it stunted their personal growth, and it’s not trivial.

Meh, healthy children are resilient af. You are overstating the problem imo.

 

[Natural Order]

Meh, healthy children are resilient af. You are overstating the problem imo.

Physically. Not psychologically.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

Learned a new term: troon. Sherdog continues to be a valuable horizon expanding resource to me.

 

[Natural Order]

This guy's writings and symbology are all over the place. He contradicts himself non stop so if there's anything we can all agree on it's that he was a complete piece of shit nutjob loser like anyone that plots to murder children to make a name for themselves.

This is it. All the jibber jabber left, jibber jabber right means fuck all. This was a mad dog needing to be put down or isolated, and the people closest to it were not fit to act accordingly.

A BIG part of this is on the parents, and they should fucking feel it too. No way does a lunatic like this go unknown, especially as a clear talker and no fear to express opinion. "Oh, we didn't see anything that would lead us to believe..."....."This is completely out of left field....." Fuckin nonsense.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Meh, healthy children are resilient af. You are overstating the problem imo.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/online...mental-health-school-satisfaction-performance

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17456916231181108

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10266495/

 

[Ara tech]

Yes, the notoriety that comes with being a mass murderer in this country is something they perceive as adding value to their miserable worthless fucking lives.

Fame is not a goal itself but merely an effect, a consequence.

If you were to make a serious investigation, on this killers, you would understand and realize many things.

One, they suffered from trauma/or bullying for long extended period of time, repetition led them to despair/anger/hatred, towards society or mankind, so they decided to commint a mass shooting, before killing themselves, or getting killed by the police.

From a mathematical perspective, drugs, smoking, pollution, mediocre healthcare, kill ten thousand more people in the US.

The media are simply trying to create an agenda of fear, to push opportunistic agendas. There is nothing really important that happened.

Imagine that a bus of kids or of students teenagers or adults, felt off a cliff, by a drunk driver, would that be a national uproar ? No.

The first victim is the mass shooter, before the bodycount that he will make. If society was sane, he would not be there mostly, no kid in his mental health thinks about making a mass shooting. I'm not defending them, in fact I don't care about them.

You should not see them as evil, but try to understand what made them take that decision.

 

[Crazy Source]

Physically. Not psychologically.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/online...mental-health-school-satisfaction-performance

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17456916231181108

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10266495/

I skimmed over those articles, and I still don't see a huge problem. Did some kids feel detached? Isolated? Did their studies suffer for a period? Of course. Life goes on FFS. I don't agree with the idea that, as the poster put it, "anyone that was a teen during Covid, has significant detriment to their mental health for a large portion of their life". That sounds like total nonsense other than for kids that were going to be fucked up regardless.

 

[chardog]

Meh, healthy children are resilient af. You are overstating the problem imo.

you would think, but the charts here show a different story, math and reading never recovered

California still lags behind pre-pandemic reading and math scores on national assessment

There was no pandemic recovery on NAEP, the National Assessment of Educational Progress, nationwide and in nearly all states.

edsource.org

there were plenty of kids that went from A/B students, straight to F, and it destroyed their moral, and the schools had pass/ no pass.

kids can get over anything, but this one thing for them is the hardest, and that's social credit/peer acceptance/a peer system, physical pain is less to them than social pain.... it's the closest thing that was done to destroying a whole generation.

Research shows youth suicide attempts, depression spiked amid the COVID-19 pandemic

Two meta-analyses synthesize the findings of a combined 95 studies on suicide attempts, depression and anxiety among kids in 2021 and 2022.

journalistsresource.org

A spike in youth suicide attempts
The researchers examined the rate at which people aged 18 years and younger went to emergency rooms after attempting suicide. They analyzed a total of 11.1 million visits, looking for differences in rates before the pandemic began and two years afterward.

They estimate the rate jumped 27% in the U.S. It rose 22%, on average, across the 18 countries studied: the U.S., Canada, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Germany, Spain, Italy, Hungary, Serbia, Switzerland, Slovenia, Turkey, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.

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these are simply rates of people that took it too far, you gotta consider the folks that didnt do this and living in misery

 

[Rob Battisti]

I skimmed over those articles, and I still don't see a huge problem. Did some kids feel detached? Isolated? Did their studies suffer for a period? Of course. Life goes on FFS. I don't agree with the that, as the poster put it, that "anyone that was a teen during Covid, has significant detriment to their mental health for a large portion of their life". That sounds like total nonsense other than for kids that were going to be fucked up regardless.

Those studies, and countless more that are out there, showcase the ongoing damage that the approach to schooling during Covid impacted children. Whether or not you want to acknowledge it is entirely up to you.

 

[Crazy Source]

@chardog @Rob Battisti @Natural Order -Seems like a pretty weak reason to blame these problems on but I suppose I underestimated the issues during Covid.

 

[Natural Order]

I skimmed over those articles, and I still don't see a huge problem. Did some kids feel detached? Isolated? Did their studies suffer for a period? Of course. Life goes on FFS. I don't agree with the idea that, as the poster put it, "anyone that was a teen during Covid, has significant detriment to their mental health for a large portion of their life". That sounds like total nonsense other than for kids that were going to be fucked up regardless.

We're well adapted to deal with almost anything physically. We're always treading new ground psychologically the further we get from the natural order.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ok, so you think that’s “genocide”?

Pointing out that some dude who thinks he’s a female is insane is committing GENOCIDE?

I wouldn't call it genocide but it'd be a pretty serious human rights breach.

 

[My Spot]

Fame is not a goal itself but merely an effect, a consequence.

If you were to make a serious investigation, on this killers, you would understand and realize many things.

One, they suffered from trauma/or bullying for long extended period of time, repetition led them to despair/anger/hatred, towards society or mankind, so they decided to commint a mass shooting, before killing themselves, or getting killed by the police.

From a mathematical perspective, drugs, smoking, pollution, mediocre healthcare, kill ten thousand more people in the US.

The media are simply trying to create an agenda of fear, to push opportunistic agendas. There is nothing really important that happened.

Imagine that a bus of kids or of students teenagers or adults, felt off a cliff, by a drunk driver, would that be a national uproar ? No.

The first victim is the mass shooter, before the bodycount that he will make. If society was sane, he would not be there mostly, no kid in his mental health thinks about making a mass shooting. I'm not defending them, in fact I don't care about them.

You should not see them as evil, but try to understand what made them take that decision.

The shooter was probably bullied a lot but why go after little kids though who are complete strangers? That's evil.

 

[Andy Capp]

That's a fair response. Make sense.

Disagree. That insane individual doesn't represent all trans people anymore than Trump's criminality is representative of all white people.

 

[Belaya Smert]

The first victim is the mass shooter.

Yeah, No

 

[Hellowhosthat]

@chardog @Rob Battisti @Natural Order -Seems like a pretty weak reason to blame these problems on but I suppose I underestimated the issues during Covid.

I work in welfare and there's a significant group of kids that were teens during lockdown that really lack social skills and confidence as a result.

 

[Natural Order]

Disagree. That insane individual doesn't represent all trans people anymore than Trump's criminality is representative of all white people.

Trump's "whiteness" has literally nothing to do with his perceived sanity.

The ideological compass of the clearly intended vigilante has nothing to do with your comparison to Dumpster's skin colour.

Atrocious analogy and you know it. Do better.

 

[Koro_11]

I wouldn't call it genocide but it'd be a pretty serious human rights breach.

Telling objective truth is a “serious” breach of human rights?

 

[Ara tech]

I work in welfare and there's a significant group of kids that were teens during lockdown that really lack social skills and confidence as a result.

When I was in russia, I've met shy extremely introverted people, usually nerds, or IT guys or girls, who did not have a lot of social skills, when I used to hang out with russian soldiers, they were a lot more assertive and relax, ice and fire, night and day difference.

Technology made the world connected, but led to social isolation, and less face to face interactions, which led to the impoverishment of social skills.

The people who are good at socializing, are usually the ones who socialized a lot.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Telling objective truth is a “serious” breach of human rights?

I was referring to a post saying they should all be locked up. That's not objective truth