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Social Minimum Wage now at $20 an hour in California
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Americans are brainwashed into being greedy self centered capitalists. It is all about each asshole and idiot thinking they are the center of the universe and deserve it all. They keep us Americans fighting against each other and trying to get over on others in order to keep us down so the government and rich can keep the money and the power.
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Agreed. The "that could be me" fallacy wants the poor not to take the rich to task too. Meanwhile the rich take the poor to task CONSTANTLY and never think twice.
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Insane people were against this
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A $40 minimum wage with a 50% tax would be economically disastrous causing high unemployment for low-skilled workers, significant business closures, and inflation as businesses pass on higher costs.the take-home pay would be only $20 per hour ($40 minus the $20 tax), and increased cost of goods , services could offset this gain, many would face job loss or be unable to find a foothold in trying to apply for a job .
I knew when I saw you using stroke of genius this would fun bc you only stroking one thing on here and it ain’t genius anything , you literally have the worst take on it and posted it ? Lol
European countries use higher taxes to fund extensive social programs like universal healthcare, which are less comprehensive in the US , we cannot tax the same way here because of the economic structure, another post I have to correct you on ., keep taking those L”s on here .
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We'll have our bullet train real soon! OK... maybe not.
Even the oil companies are moving out. Tech has taken a huge step out. Entertainment... out. We are a shell of what we used to be, and it's only getting worse. I keep wondering how far it has to go before the idiots in my state quit voting Democrat.
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It's crazy how California just acts like it's own country... run by morons and fucking the people that live there. Just fucking incompetence run amok among local governments. California forces gas companies to make special gas for cars... so residents have to pay $1.50-$2.00 more per gallon of gas. For what? And the Palisades fire wiped out 20+ years of any "special" benefits that gas may have had... due to Government negligence and incompetence. And fucking Californians in the ass...
And speaking of the Palisades fire and shitty Government
lol... Califonia Officials are claiming that 80 days for permit approval is great... compare to the usual 24 months. Holy Fuck... 24 months is normal? Most people have their homes approved and built in under a year. 24 months just for permit approval? And for Malibu... 6 years for permit approval?
The LA Fires Destroyed 11,000 Homes. Less Than 10% Have Permits to Rebuild
The LA Fires Destroyed 11,000 Homes. Less Than 10% Have Permits to Rebuild - Carrier Management
Of the thousands of residents needing to rebuild after this year’s California wildfires, Andy Weyman would seem especially well positioned. The TV and stage director had remodeled his Malibu home just five years earlier and had city-approved blueprints in hand, with the same architect set to...
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Yet eight months after the Palisades Fire destroyed almost 600 Malibu houses, the city has issued only two rebuilding permits. Weyman needed geological tests to ensure the stability of his bluff-top lot. Construction costs are roughly double his insurance coverage.
Rebuilding after California fires has long been an arduous process — in Malibu, only about 40% of the 488 homes that burned in the 2018 Woolsey Fire have completed reconstruction. But government agencies vowed to cut red tape after the devastating toll of the January blazes, located in residential areas that were home to tight-knit communities and highly desirable real estate
Some residents say the process is still being dragged out. Rich Wilken, 78, put off retirement as an architect after losing his Pacific Palisades home of 47 years, and agreed to design 10 new houses in the burn area for himself and friends. But he says the effort has been dogged by a changing cast of inspectors at LA’s building department who offer conflicting opinions on his plans, requiring resubmissions that take time and money.
“The building department’s answers change every day,” Wilken said.
Bass repeatedly speaks about how rebuilding is happening faster than any wildfire in California history, noting that at least 220 houses in the Palisades are already under construction. Plan approval times in the district average 69 days, compared with as much as 24 months outside the fire zone, according to city officials.
In the area of Eaton Fire, the pace of permit approvals is much quicker than before the disaster — an average of 72 days, compared with about eight months previously.
Annie Compton is among those who decided to walk away. The 41-year-old film and TV writer had initially planned to return to the Altadena neighborhood she fled with her husband and two children, having long loved the community’s diversity and reputation as a haven for artists. But navigating the bureaucracy, paperwork and insurance grew to be too difficult, and the math just wouldn’t pencil out.
She said many of her former neighbors also don’t plan on rebuilding for the same reasons: It’s too expensive and too difficult.
In Malibu, it took an average 126 days for approval of the first two rebuilding permits, but that compares with a typical six years outside the burn areas in the beachfront town, according to Yolanda Bundy, Malibu’s community development director who’s overseeing the reconstruction.
Remember this? Promoted as donation money going directly to victims?
In typical California political fashion... it's all been swallowed by NGO's and no one knows hows it's been spent. None of the NGO's are accountable for how the money is spent.
Where Did $100 Million in LA Fire Relief Money Go?
Where Did $100 Million in LA Fire Relief Money Go?
Some Southern California residents say there are few signs of the ‘direct relief’ promised by FireAid.
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Quentin Fleming was one of the thousands of people who lost their homes in the wildfires that ravaged Southern California in January. He received $750 from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a few thousand dollars from the Red Cross, and assistance in finding a rental home from an insurance company. He has lived there ever since then.
But there have been few signs of help, either for Fleming or his neighbors in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles, from the highly publicized “FireAid” benefit concert, which raised $100 million for what organizers said would be “direct relief” to victims and communities.
“We haven’t really seen any Palisades organizations benefit from the FireAid funds,” said Fleming, 67, a University of Southern California business professor who lived in Pacific Palisades for nearly 25 years. He told me that the area “is often misperceived as this very exclusive, affluent enclave, but that’s not always the case.” People who lived in rent-controlled apartments, inherited homes that would have been unaffordable to buy, or were underinsured when the wildfires hit especially need financial help, he added.
Sue Pascoe, a Pacific Palisades resident of 30 years who lost her home in the fire, runs a local news blog called Circling the News. She received an email from a reader asking about how to apply for funds raised through FireAid. She found out that the money was being distributed to various nonprofit groups instead of directly to fire victims.
“There’s all sorts of skullduggery going on, and basically wildfire victims and Palisades and Altadena got no direct relief,” said Pascoe.
FireAid distributed $50 million of the $100 million to more than 120 nonprofits and community groups in a first round of disbursements. FireAid also chose 68 recipients for $25 million in a second round. Applications for the last $25 million are being accepted through a Google Form on FireAid’s website.
Specific grant amounts aren’t disclosed on the website. But recipients include Inclusive Action for the City, a nonprofit community development financial institution that gave out $500 in cash to outdoor workers like street vendors, landscapers, and recyclers. The Pilipino Workers Center received an undisclosed sum for “supporting workers displaced by the fires,” and money went to the California Native Vote Project to help displaced Native American families with financial assistance and mental health services.
$100M in LA wildfire aid is being doled out to fund pet clinics, DEI projects and fungus planting— but not a dime directly to victims
$100M in LA wildfire aid is being doled out to fund pet clinics, DEI projects and fungus planting— but not a dime directly to victims
The $100 million FireAid benefit concert has responded to backlash with a new audit report, yet fire victims are still scratching their heads.
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The beneficiaries ranged from the Buddhist Tzu Chi Foundation ($100,000) to a group making podcasts about the wildfires ($100,000), to the local YMCA ($250,000).
Several grants went to nonprofits that focus on political advocacy for minority groups, including the NAACP Pasadena ($100,000), the Los Angeles Black Worker Center ($250,000), My Tribe Rise ($200,000), and the CA Native Vote Project ($100,000), which conducts voter registration drives for Native Americans across the state.
“There are a lot of people in our group chats who are like, ‘What’s the FireAid money being used for?’ Because I don’t think any of us have seen any of it,” said Ben Einbinder, who has become a community organizer since losing his home in the Palisades.
But even though FireAid has revealed which organizations it has given money to, it hasn’t revealed what exactly the organizations are doing with the cash.
“Some of the organizations … it would be hard to say whether they were actually using the FireAid money for wildfire relief,” Einbinder said.
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LA Mayor Karen Bass claims she’s pulling out all the stops to rebuild Pacific Palisades, but residents say she’s ‘full of crap’
The situation amounts to false advertising at best, Howard said.“Even the artists performing on stage were telling fans and people engaging with the concert that this money is going directly to the victims,’’ the struggling resident said.
“But the trickle-down on that makes it so the people who need it the most haven’t seen anything.’’
Howard said the issue for him and many of his neighbors is not about any individual FireAid beneficiary organization, adding that many probably do good work.
Instead, he said, there are simply too many of the charities receiving the money to put it to any coordinated, meaningful use to help fire victims.
Of course, that’s assuming all of the organizations are directly helping fire victims, which nobody has been able to verify.
“FireAid is giving money to a nonprofit that teaches other organizations how to be a nonprofit,” Howard noted, referring to the Center for Nonprofit Management, which got $250,000.
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You're so dumb you can't even recognize sarcasm.
Again proving you are one of the dumbest if not the dumbest posters on this board.
Go punch rocks, Duck.
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It's all about taxes. That's all these shysters give a shit about. The don't care about the average person in the least bit. They raise the minimum wage to collect more income tax. Just remember that. Then inflation takes hold (which negates the pay increase) from drastically increasing MW, and they collect more sales tax.
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California might be a state that could pull this off due to $20 an hour there not being the same as $20 in let's say Kansas. As much as I'd like for workers to get paid more I don't think a blanket raise of the minimum wage country wide will fix this. The nation is just way too big and economically diversified for that. There should be a minimum for sure but increasing it isn't the way to go to fix wages.
It should be done at a grassroots level company by company as each employer is working with a different budget and has different incomes. That's yet another reason why I'm for increasing workers rights and having more unions. The more libertarian in me likes this since it also cuts out government involvement as i think we can all agree they aren't to be trusted when it comes to money issues. Power to the people I say.
It should be done at a grassroots level company by company as each employer is working with a different budget and has different incomes. That's yet another reason why I'm for increasing workers rights and having more unions. The more libertarian in me likes this since it also cuts out government involvement as i think we can all agree they aren't to be trusted when it comes to money issues. Power to the people I say.
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Another typical shitpost from that dude
Instead of addressing of content your post... he tries to deflect by crapping on where it came from.
You know you've hit the mark when that happens. There's no denying what's going on from retard Gavin's attempt to buy votes and then making things worse in the process.
And for you dipshits... Who the fuck is making a career of working at McDonalds. Entry level jobs are just that... entry level. A place for young people to get their first experience at the work place. Not to work there for 20-30 and retire... lol.
It's a completely garbage argument to make that people should be supporting families while flipping burgers. Raising the min wage for fast food workers completely defeats that purpose and the end result if massive inflation in the cost of making what supposed to be affordable food.
And guess who eats fast food the most... blue collar workers.
So its a double whammy
Now there's fewer fast food jobs and middle/lower familes have to pay more to eat.
Well done shitheads
California unemployment rate worst in the nation, according to state data
Here you go @Blayt7hh... no twitter posts
Not just job losses... but reduced work hours and benefits for those that kept their jobs... lol.
California’s fast-food minimum wage is super-sizing job losses
California’s fast-food minimum wage is super-sizing job losses - Competitive Enterprise Institute
Minimum wage increases would be a fine idea if they worked the way that their fans assumed that they did: increasing the take-home pay of low-income workers and nothing else. The reality is that they typically do more harm than good, resulting in fewer jobs, fewer hours for workers who have...cei.org
The reality is that they typically do more harm than good, resulting in fewer jobs, fewer hours for workers who have jobs, and higher prices for consumers. This can be seen in the case of California’s recently-enacted $20 an hour minimum wage for fast-food workers.
The $20 rate went into effect in the Golden State in April 2024, up from $16 previously. A working paper published this month by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the increase caused employment in the state’s fast-food sector to decline by 2.7 percent. That translates to a loss of 18,000 jobs.
The damage for California doesn’t stop at job losses, as CEI has noted previously. The vast majority of California’s fast-food workers, 89 percent, have had their work hours reduced. Another 35 percent have seen their supplemental benefits reduced.
Customers suffer as well. Menu prices for Golden State restaurants rose 14.5 percent between September 2023 and December 2024, nearly double the national rate of 8.2 percent for restaurants. Prices jumped 3 percent in the month after the minimum wage hike went into effect. Americans across all income groups eat fast food, but the core consumers are low-income families according to the Morning Consult. Any price increase is going to hit them the hardest.
Lmao I know you think this was some big mic drop but it was once again a big whiff from you.Another typical shitpost from that dude
Instead of addressing of content your post... he tries to deflect by crapping on where it came from.
You know you've hit the mark when that happens. There's no denying what's going on from retard Gavin's attempt to buy votes and then making things worse in the process.
And for you dipshits... Who the fuck is making a career of working at McDonalds. Entry level jobs are just that... entry level. A place for young people to get their first experience at the work place. Not to work there for 20-30 and retire... lol.
It's a completely garbage argument to make that people should be supporting families while flipping burgers. Raising the min wage for fast food workers completely defeats that purpose and the end result if massive inflation in the cost of making what supposed to be affordable food.
And guess who eats fast food the most... blue collar workers.
So its a double whammy
Now there's fewer fast food jobs and middle/lower familes have to pay more to eat.
Well done shitheads
California unemployment rate worst in the nation, according to state data
Here you go @Blayt7hh... no twitter posts
Not just job losses... but reduced work hours and benefits for those that kept their jobs... lol.
California’s fast-food minimum wage is super-sizing job losses
California’s fast-food minimum wage is super-sizing job losses - Competitive Enterprise Institute
Minimum wage increases would be a fine idea if they worked the way that their fans assumed that they did: increasing the take-home pay of low-income workers and nothing else. The reality is that they typically do more harm than good, resulting in fewer jobs, fewer hours for workers who have...
The reality is that they typically do more harm than good, resulting in fewer jobs, fewer hours for workers who have jobs, and higher prices for consumers. This can be seen in the case of California’s recently-enacted $20 an hour minimum wage for fast-food workers.
The $20 rate went into effect in the Golden State in April 2024, up from $16 previously. A working paper published this month by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the increase caused employment in the state’s fast-food sector to decline by 2.7 percent. That translates to a loss of 18,000 jobs.
The damage for California doesn’t stop at job losses, as CEI has noted previously. The vast majority of California’s fast-food workers, 89 percent, have had their work hours reduced. Another 35 percent have seen their supplemental benefits reduced.
Customers suffer as well. Menu prices for Golden State restaurants rose 14.5 percent between September 2023 and December 2024, nearly double the national rate of 8.2 percent for restaurants. Prices jumped 3 percent in the month after the minimum wage hike went into effect. Americans across all income groups eat fast food, but the core consumers are low-income families according to the Morning Consult. Any price increase is going to hit them the hardest.
I did address his post fully that I responded to any content of his post because his first post didn’t have any content. It was literally just some asshats response to Gavin on twitter. So yeah there is your first strike. I can see why you took personal offense though since you’re just as guilty of spamming this forum with stupid shit from your twitter feet.
Second strike is you arguing with me and providing a whole huge post arguing against a position I guess you assume I took but didn’t actually because the only position I took was calling out this twittersphere nonsense. Seriously, sharing tweets all the time is valueless. It means you don’t have any thoughts of your own and are a complete slave to the algorithm you curated.
You get a third strike for sharing some dumbass graphic that’s not labeled.
Now go change your pants it stinks in here.
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Uhhhh....were they?
How California’s Fast-Food Prices Are Impacting Traffic
98% of California fast food locations hiked prices immediately after the wage increase.
Nearly all California fast food restaurants hiked prices after state state’s $20 minimum wage: survey
It looks like people who opposed this were exactly right about their predictions. Fast food prices went up, consumption went down, labor went down. Seems like the only thing that went up was unemployment.
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Maybe fast-food traffic is declining is because what they are cranking out barely qualifies as actual food and it's $82 for a fucking Happy Meal.
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So all the posts you ever did on here must be sarcasm bc there’s many worse then this one you stand by the “ I WAS ONLY KIDDING GUYS “ would get old with you bc your takes can’t reflect if your joking or not bc your almost always wrong regardless?
I mean your literally stupid outside the training section and you don’t even train correctly from what you posted on here and or you have on you tube ..you THINK you do but that’s what’s funny you’d get absolutely Molly whopped by me and you’d regret talking like you do on here bc there’s only one outcome and that’s you getting destroyed .
Ducking a guy I’d obliterate ?Thats probably the most comical thing on here you got going though . You’d be bloodied up and then say I was only joking man ..I just wanted to see for myself …..smh .
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I'm still in the US, Duck.
I've offered the fight many times, and given you potential locations. I've sent plenty of DMs. You have never responded. Just lies and excuses. I'd love to see you mollywhop anyone - but you have no fights. You're a "self trained" boxer who punches rocks and no fight footage.
I've chased you from the OT, S&C, and the striking subforums. This is your last bastion of hope among liberals who will embrace anyone who parrots their lines. And even they cringe at the thought of you matching up with me.
Fucking dillatante.
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This sounds like fiction to me.
Being a Californian, I believe it 100%
Release the list!
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Collectivism and egalitarianism is branded as socialism; and because of the poor intellectual curiosity of most people, they parrot it without investigating it themselves
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Increases in the minimum wage have almost always been a net negative for people. Increases in the price of basic goods and services outpace the increase in earning power among minimum wage workers. Corporations will also use rising minimum wage costs as an excuse to increase the price of things to pad margins. Companies don't eat the cost of rising wage costs, consumers do.
With that being said, a minimum wage is fundamentally different than a livable wage. We should be focusing on affordability and accessibility.
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