Crime Milwaukee Riot Thread

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

source it.

 

[Blackened]

What you just said is an ideology. Lol.


My opinions have been formed based on experiences I've had in my life as well.

Unlike you I don't mind helping hard working people. I was most likely raised much differently.

I was actually raised by wealthy successful parents. They never shied away from extending a hand.

That's the difference.

This is your problem. You've never had to suffer.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

This is your problem. You've never had to suffer.

Why would I need to suffer? What a dumb ass argument.


My parents raised me with empathy for others. That's why I don't wanna see others suffer.

Lol you sound like a sociopath

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

no, you didnt watch that video.

he doesn't show anywhere that Ben said he wants to get rid of all welfare ZERO CLAIM FOR IT -- just goes on to show that ben did grow up with some benefits - which we already covered in the politifact article.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...en-carson-want-eliminate-dependency-governme/

which also went on to prove that ben also said he wanted to keep it for the people who really need it.

You just did a quick search without even analyzing your source

more disingenuity

So, please, again, show articles or source that he flipped on his stance.

 

[Blackened]

He never once said he opposed welfare in that video.

 

[Blackened]

Why would I need to suffer? What a dumb ass argument.


My parents raised me with empathy for others. That's why I don't wanna see others suffer.

Lol you sound like a sociopath

You are missing the point entirely again. If you hit rock bottom, you'll find a way to pick yourself back up. If you are being held slightly above rock bottom, you'll never hit it and likely not pick yourself up.

I could set this up as a formal argument to show that it follows logical consistency if you'd like.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

He never once said he opposed welfare in that video.

I misread your post.

His entire speech was anti welfare. Then Admits to being on it at 39 seconds. lol

 

[CableandThanos]

What you just said is an ideology. Lol.


My opinions have been formed based on experiences I've had in my life as well.

Unlike you I don't mind helping hard working people. I was most likely raised much differently.

I was actually raised by wealthy successful parents. They never shied away from extending a hand.

That's the difference.

You keep stating that the majority of benefits go to the old and children.

Well how do you think those children got here?? By moms fuckin around. And more than likely if kids ar on assistance then the mom is as well. So yes kids take up a lot of benefits, but it is the benefit having mom who keeps poping out those"kids"

You act like kids are some seperate entity that exist alone without having to have been created.

People aren't only upset at the adult lazy asses, we are upset at the adult lazy asses who bring multiple children (who you say make up most of the benefits) ijn the world to have to be paid for. Kind of funny how those kids that take up most of the benefits come from a parent that is on benefits as well.

So basicaly the lazy (or truly needy) parent should be blamed even more for bringing another person/persons into the world that they can't take care of.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

no, you didnt watch that video.

he doesn't show anywhere that Ben said he wants to get rid of all welfare ZERO CLAIM FOR IT -- just goes on to show that ben did grow up with some benefits - which we already covered in the politifact article.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...en-carson-want-eliminate-dependency-governme/

which also went on to prove that ben also said he wanted to keep it for the people who really need it.

You just did a quick search without even analyzing your source

more disingenuity

So, please, again, show articles or source that he flipped on his stance.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Oh he didn't. Lol at 39 seconds he clearly said "she occasionally went on government assistance." That's welfare. He openly admitted it


He also said it in his book. And he was on welfare. That's the entire point. That's how he got his glasses.

Are you awake right now

Are you?

You're the one who said he opposed welfare and then flipped on it -- and then when asked to provide evidence you just posted a video of him admitting to using it. which we already covered.

So, again, where did he say he opposed ALL welfare and then flipped to say he wants to give it to people who need it?

 

[CableandThanos]

I misread your post.

His entire speech was anti welfare. Then Admits to being on it at 39 seconds. lol

whats lol

do you think as a child he had any say in the benefits?

Maybe as someone who was on them and saw what they did to his community, he thinks the system needs to be changed.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

You keep stating that the majority of benefits go to the old and children.

Well how do you think those children got here?? By moms fuckin around. And more than likely if kids ar on assistance then the mom is as well. So yes kids take up a lot of benefits, but it is the benefit having mom who keeps poping out those"kids"

You act like kids are some seperate entity that exist alone without having to have been created.

People aren't only upset at the adult lazy asses, we are upset at the adult lazy asses who bring multiple children (who you say make up most of the benefits) ijn the world to have to be paid for. Kind of funny how those kids that take up most of the benefits come from a parent that is on benefits as well.

So basicaly the lazy (or truly needy) parent should be blamed even more for bringing another person/persons into the world that they can't take care of.

I do not mind helping working families of any color, white or black, who have a family.


I also don't like the leeches who make welfare their jobs.

What aren't you understanding.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Are you?

You're the one who said he opposed welfare and then flipped on it -- and then when asked to provide evidence you just posted a video of him admitting to using it. which we already covered.

So, again, where did he say he opposed ALL welfare and then flipped to say he wants to give it to people who need it?

I corrected that post. I misread it.


Try reading that link. More than a handful of occasions does he make his feelings on welfare know. Deny it all you want but the link shows the proof.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm

Holy shit, this is getting comical.

His message is the exact same in that with no flip flopping. He even mentions keeping programs for people in it.

Are you reading these sources or just blindly copying and paste.

Again for everyone reading. Kong claims that carson was anti welfare and flipped to be pro some welfare -- and still after 2 tries failed on both his attempt at sourcing.

 

[CableandThanos]

I do not mind helping working families of any color, white or black, who have a family.


I also don't like the leeches who make welfare their jobs.

What aren't you understanding.

No dude, I am totally with you on that

I am just saying, you keep using the old and kids as the main people on asistance. Trying to down play the amount of adults on assistance. But with out the adult making those bad decisions, there would be no kids to have to pay out "most" of the money we are talking about.

Basically if there weren't so many adult people on benefits, then they would not produce kids that are on benefits.

You can't seperate one from the other.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

whats lol

do you think as a child he had any say in the benefits?

Maybe as someone who was on them and saw what they did to his community, he thinks the system needs to be changed.

but the handouts actually helped him.

Your argument is utter dog shit.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I corrected that post. I misread it.


Try reading that link. More than a handful of occasions does he make his feelings on welfare know. Deny it all you want but the link shows the proof.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm

seriously dude....

you need to read your own sources:

"I'm not interested in getting rid of a safety net, I'm interested in getting rid of dependency,"

"I do care about the poor people. And in the system that we're putting together, there will be a rebate for people at the poverty level"

so for the 3rd time:

Swhere did he say he opposed ALL welfare and then flipped to say he wants to give it to people who need it?

 

[SHAZAM]

Idk what's going on here but in the United States, 99.99% of the people are responsible for their own lives. Problem is we have a bunch of entitle people. Oh yeah, welfare is holding a lot of black people down along with affirmative action. I don't mind helping someone in need but once you help them and once you tell them what's up, its up to them to do something about it. If they don't change then never help again.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Holy shit, this is getting comical.

His message is the exact same in that with no flip flopping. He even mentions keeping programs for people in it.

Are you reading these sources or just blindly copying and paste.

Again for everyone reading. Kong claims that carson was anti welfare and flipped to be pro some welfare -- and still after 2 tries failed on both his attempt at sourcing.

The very first quote of his talks about how the people should come to the aid of the needy not the government.


That in itself is saying government assistance is forbidden.



I will agree with you on one point. He changes his definition quite a few times in that link.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

The very first quote of his talks about how the people should come to the aid of the needy not the government.


That in itself is saying government assistance is forbidden.



I will agree with you on one point. He changes his definition quite a few times in that link.

None of that supports your point - especially when he goes on to say he supports the net and has welfare programs in his policy from the start.

He said communities are responsible to help, and have a long history of doing so; not the government -- but does not ANYWHERE say stop programs.

AND that quote was from 2016...so did he flop back? Because his quotes specifically saying the he supported keeping programs for those who need it are from 2015....so what is it, Kong?

this is what you said:

I

he openly discredited welfare of any kind. He changed his statements later on like he did with other things.

keep trying though, this is getting comical.